Choosing to weaponize racism as an alternative to owning up to your actions that you have full control over yet took zero accountability for doesn't exactly scream "I care about black people" to me. If you can't get over it and grow up then you shouldn't start shit in the first place. However, that would require self awareness and being a person that's not a stupid ******* **** to their core that can't help themselves, neither of which apply to you. I hope you all "enjoy yalls weekend" because SOMEONE has to make up for the joy that miserable losers like flyguy take out of this world!
Kam and Tori are on par with each other as challengers. The only thing that separates the two is that Tori is a champ. Obviously Tori RIGHT NOW might be considered better bc kam is Post Partum but both of their final performances are similar (1 second place finishes each, both placed 3rd for the girls on their rookie season.) I think Kam can win with the "right" people in the final line Tori did
Also as a kam fan, I won't mind if she doesn't come back for awhile until her kids are older (as she said in Zach's podcast) bc I want her to come back as her best. But will the challenge still be around lol?
It would be funny if one season they pull a challenge argentina and randomly make people choose a previously eliminated contestant to face someone right before the final. The cast would riot
A modern day RR Viewer's Revenge-like challenge season or spin off would work great. Put two teams in separate RVs and have them the travel the country and compete for X amount of rounds. Have a roster of people competing to get on the RV for both teams. Let the cast know 4-5 rounds before the end of the season how many rounds they have left before the final and watch everyone become savage trying to secure their spot on the final team rosters before the final challenge.
Idk if the 'viewers' voting in real time element would work. But the general format RR Viewer's Revenge had, sans the voting from the viewers, would work well for an eccentric challenge season or spin off. I've been wanting them to do a 6 vs. 6 team season on an RV again.
A modern day RR Viewer's Revenge-like challenge season or spin off would work great. Put two teams in separate RVs and have them the travel the country and compete for X amount of rounds. Have a roster of people competing to get on the RV for both teams. Let the cast know 4-5 rounds before the end of the season how many rounds they have left before the final and watch everyone become savage trying to secure their spot on the final team rosters before the final challenge.
Idk if the 'viewers' voting in real time element would work. But the general format RR Viewer's Revenge had, sans the voting from the viewers, would work well for an eccentric challenge season or spin off. I've been wanting them to do a 6 vs. 6 team season on an RV again.
Total Madness is percieved kind of badly because it was a drop from WOTW2, and the shelter setting made the atmosphere very sad and depressed with everyone just wanting to go home, but it still wasn't that bad of a season.
We got Bayleigh being the center of the drama from the very beginning, having huge blowouts with Kaycee and Nany. Melissa fighting with Nelson and Josh, Tori getting sent home early by Jenna, the beginning of Big T actually getting a chance to compete, Dee coming off of her humble WOTW win and turning into a messy rotted villain, only to get taken out by Jenny, the girl she betrayed earlier on while Jenny herself got to redeem herself in hall brawl. Which the irony in it all was that she was being made a fool out of by Rogan the entire time and was his victim all along. Ashley vs Mattie. Kailah cheating on Mikey P (lol) with Bear and Kailah fighting with Nelson. Nany throwing a hot cup of ramen noodles on Aneesa and calling her old. Pregnant Melissa eliminating Nany.
I think this season could have been really great if they didn't implement the skull twist where everyone was kindly letting eachother into elimination, and making it a more enjoyable atmosphere that didn't make both the cast and production want to kill themselves.
The chokehold Kailah had on the trilogy, in terms of drama/storyline, social media presence, controversy, online discussion, is insane looking back. Anyone who watched the show would have guessed that Kailah would take over and become the female face of the franchise within a few years, even though she wasn't even that amazing competively. Even in Final Reckoning, it still felt like she was a main character despite being in one episode. Total Madness was kind of the beginning of the end for her and for Ride or Dies her being a first boot essentially killed her off any ambition for her to compete. Kind of sad really and I never even liked her.
Total Madness is percieved kind of badly because it was a drop from WOTW2, and the shelter setting made the atmosphere very sad and depressed with everyone just wanting to go home, but it still wasn't that bad of a season.
We got Bayleigh being the center of the drama from the very beginning, having huge blowouts with Kaycee and Nany. Melissa fighting with Nelson and Josh, Tori getting sent home early by Jenna, the beginning of Big T actually getting a chance to compete, Dee coming off of her humble WOTW win and turning into a messy rotted villain, only to get taken out by Jenny, the girl she betrayed earlier on while Jenny herself got to redeem herself in hall brawl. Which the irony in it all was that she was being made a fool out of by Rogan the entire time and was his victim all along. Ashley vs Mattie. Kailah cheating on Mikey P (lol) with Bear and Kailah fighting with Nelson. Nany throwing a hot cup of ramen noodles on Aneesa and calling her old. Pregnant Melissa eliminating Nany.
I think this season could have been really great if they didn't implement the skull twist where everyone was kindly letting eachother into elimination, and making it a more enjoyable atmosphere that didn't make both the cast and production want to kill themselves.
I think Total Madness would have been better if they didn't have to edit Dee out of the 2nd half.
Total Madness is percieved kind of badly because it was a drop from WOTW2, and the shelter setting made the atmosphere very sad and depressed with everyone just wanting to go home, but it still wasn't that bad of a season.
We got Bayleigh being the center of the drama from the very beginning, having huge blowouts with Kaycee and Nany. Melissa fighting with Nelson and Josh, Tori getting sent home early by Jenna, the beginning of Big T actually getting a chance to compete, Dee coming off of her humble WOTW win and turning into a messy rotted villain, only to get taken out by Jenny, the girl she betrayed earlier on while Jenny herself got to redeem herself in hall brawl. Which the irony in it all was that she was being made a fool out of by Rogan the entire time and was his victim all along. Ashley vs Mattie. Kailah cheating on Mikey P (lol) with Bear and Kailah fighting with Nelson. Nany throwing a hot cup of ramen noodles on Aneesa and calling her old. Pregnant Melissa eliminating Nany.
I think this season could have been really great if they didn't implement the skull twist where everyone was kindly letting eachother into elimination, and making it a more enjoyable atmosphere that didn't make both the cast and production want to kill themselves.
I think Total Madness would have been better if they didn't have to edit Dee out of the 2nd half.
oooh yeah, i forgot about that, never understood why they did that whenever they could have just made a statement that she was banned, and let the rest of the season play out like normal. dee was already the villain in the storyline at that point.
The chokehold Kailah had on the trilogy, in terms of drama/storyline, social media presence, controversy, online discussion, is insane looking back. Anyone who watched the show would have guessed that Kailah would take over and become the female face of the franchise within a few years, even though she wasn't even that amazing competively. Even in Final Reckoning, it still felt like she was a main character despite being in one episode. Total Madness was kind of the beginning of the end for her and for Ride or Dies her being a first boot essentially killed her off any ambition for her to compete. Kind of sad really and I never even liked her.
Ugh need the queen back brings main character energy on every show she does
I dont feel like production is pushing a narrative of rachel over jenny, I just think rachel has better soundbytes so of course they used her speech. Especially when shes going on about feminism and the show has a sexist history, of course theyre going to air that.
The chokehold Kailah had on the trilogy, in terms of drama/storyline, social media presence, controversy, online discussion, is insane looking back. Anyone who watched the show would have guessed that Kailah would take over and become the female face of the franchise within a few years, even though she wasn't even that amazing competively. Even in Final Reckoning, it still felt like she was a main character despite being in one episode. Total Madness was kind of the beginning of the end for her and for Ride or Dies her being a first boot essentially killed her off any ambition for her to compete. Kind of sad really and I never even liked her.
Ugh need the queen back brings main character energy on every show she does
Idc if the show cast openly racist players as long as they give marginalized people a space to call them out.
What in the trauma p orn. Marginalized people don't need to go on this show to defend themselves against racists everyday. The Challenge will just gloss over it anyways and not really give the space to have those discussions.
i kind of get where yr coming from in the sense that you want 'real' moments that actually depicts what goes on in real life, even the ugly aspects. the real world had situations like that with jenna and ceejai, it was nice to watch jenna get her *** beat and also painted an accurate picture of how overt racism is still alive and how it manifests in social situations.
however, is still wasn't worth it because they're still actual people, ceejai probably has a lot of emotional trauma from it to this day, and it probably brought on a lot of racist hate online, because i'm sure she got shit for defending herself from racist mtv fans. ultimately those marginalized people will still get the short end of the stick and walk away more scathed
Choosing to weaponize racism as an alternative to owning up to your actions that you have full control over yet took zero accountability for doesn't exactly scream "I care about black people" to me. If you can't get over it and grow up then you shouldn't start shit in the first place. However, that would require self awareness and being a person that's not a stupid ******* **** to their core that can't help themselves, neither of which apply to you. I hope you all "enjoy yalls weekend" because SOMEONE has to make up for the joy that miserable losers like flyguy take out of this world!
Kam and Tori are on par with each other as challengers. The only thing that separates the two is that Tori is a champ. Obviously Tori RIGHT NOW might be considered better bc kam is Post Partum but both of their final performances are similar (1 second place finishes each, both placed 3rd for the girls on their rookie season.) I think Kam can win with the "right" people in the final line Tori did
Also as a kam fan, I won't mind if she doesn't come back for awhile until her kids are older (as she said in Zach's podcast) bc I want her to come back as her best. But will the challenge still be around lol?
It would be funny if one season they pull a challenge argentina and randomly make people choose a previously eliminated contestant to face someone right before the final. The cast would riot
Until they learn to sit people out we don't need another team challenge tbh. You almost always know the team with less people will lose.
which is unfortunate because team seasons are the most entertaining imo.
I always hated Mark Long and would not be surprised me if he was Eric Nies' *****.
A modern day RR Viewer's Revenge-like challenge season or spin off would work great. Put two teams in separate RVs and have them the travel the country and compete for X amount of rounds. Have a roster of people competing to get on the RV for both teams. Let the cast know 4-5 rounds before the end of the season how many rounds they have left before the final and watch everyone become savage trying to secure their spot on the final team rosters before the final challenge.
Idk if the 'viewers' voting in real time element would work. But the general format RR Viewer's Revenge had, sans the voting from the viewers, would work well for an eccentric challenge season or spin off. I've been wanting them to do a 6 vs. 6 team season on an RV again.
Id watch
Same.
Also this thread officially reached 10k post wow.
bruh i saw that happening and i was gonna try to be the 10,000th post. whatever
Total Madness is percieved kind of badly because it was a drop from WOTW2, and the shelter setting made the atmosphere very sad and depressed with everyone just wanting to go home, but it still wasn't that bad of a season.
We got Bayleigh being the center of the drama from the very beginning, having huge blowouts with Kaycee and Nany. Melissa fighting with Nelson and Josh, Tori getting sent home early by Jenna, the beginning of Big T actually getting a chance to compete, Dee coming off of her humble WOTW win and turning into a messy rotted villain, only to get taken out by Jenny, the girl she betrayed earlier on while Jenny herself got to redeem herself in hall brawl. Which the irony in it all was that she was being made a fool out of by Rogan the entire time and was his victim all along. Ashley vs Mattie. Kailah cheating on Mikey P (lol) with Bear and Kailah fighting with Nelson. Nany throwing a hot cup of ramen noodles on Aneesa and calling her old. Pregnant Melissa eliminating Nany.
I think this season could have been really great if they didn't implement the skull twist where everyone was kindly letting eachother into elimination, and making it a more enjoyable atmosphere that didn't make both the cast and production want to kill themselves.
Do yall remember Kailah x Mikey P? LMAO he was more of a messy twitter queen than Kailah was.
The chokehold Kailah had on the trilogy, in terms of drama/storyline, social media presence, controversy, online discussion, is insane looking back. Anyone who watched the show would have guessed that Kailah would take over and become the female face of the franchise within a few years, even though she wasn't even that amazing competively. Even in Final Reckoning, it still felt like she was a main character despite being in one episode. Total Madness was kind of the beginning of the end for her and for Ride or Dies her being a first boot essentially killed her off any ambition for her to compete. Kind of sad really and I never even liked her.
What was the tea with that, I forgot lol
I think Total Madness would have been better if they didn't have to edit Dee out of the 2nd half.
nothing, it was just funny cause mikey was online acting like he was on the cast himself
oooh yeah, i forgot about that, never understood why they did that whenever they could have just made a statement that she was banned, and let the rest of the season play out like normal. dee was already the villain in the storyline at that point.
Ugh need the queen back brings main character energy on every show she does
Amber > Rachel. Amber didn't need karma points to get 1st
I dont feel like production is pushing a narrative of rachel over jenny, I just think rachel has better soundbytes so of course they used her speech. Especially when shes going on about feminism and the show has a sexist history, of course theyre going to air that.
NEED her!
Idc if the show cast openly racist players as long as they give marginalized people a space to call them out.
What in the trauma p orn. Marginalized people don't need to go on this show to defend themselves against racists everyday. The Challenge will just gloss over it anyways and not really give the space to have those discussions.
Then when marginalized players pop them in the mouth (as they ******* should) they're the problem...no ty.
Girl what
lmaooo this is sending me
they basically do this already
i kind of get where yr coming from in the sense that you want 'real' moments that actually depicts what goes on in real life, even the ugly aspects. the real world had situations like that with jenna and ceejai, it was nice to watch jenna get her *** beat and also painted an accurate picture of how overt racism is still alive and how it manifests in social situations.
however, is still wasn't worth it because they're still actual people, ceejai probably has a lot of emotional trauma from it to this day, and it probably brought on a lot of racist hate online, because i'm sure she got shit for defending herself from racist mtv fans. ultimately those marginalized people will still get the short end of the stick and walk away more scathed
I wouldn't mind skulls on a team format.
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