What's even worse is I believe Laurel was there for Cara during the stuff with Abe so to spit that back in her face a decade later.. nasty work
It sucks because Laurel can obviously be very kind to those she cares about / is close to. But she's just got a switch in her where she'll go to the darkest place to hurt someone.
If she was just reading Cara for her taste in trash men without bringing up the abuse, that'd be one thing -- mentioning the abuse is what crosses the line.
I'm going to say something controversial... But why are y'all so outraged?
It's Laurel. Is the same girl that was making fun of someone because she was anorexyc and using it as an attack to be mean. Like that video goes viral every month on The Challenge twitter community and no one ever bats an eye about it.
Laurel is trash, always has been. That's why she's good TV.
But it's giving performative. When other people are the ones in the other end no one says anything.
I'm going to say something controversial... But why are y'all so outraged?
It's Laurel. Is the same girl that was making fun of someone because she was anorexyc and using it as an attack to be mean. Like that video goes viral every month on The Challenge twitter community and no one ever bats an eye about it.
Laurel is trash, always has been. That's why she's good TV.
But it's giving performative. When other people are the ones in the other end no one says anything.
This is a weird point you're trying to make. You want to compare how people react to something that's current vs something that happened years ago? And calling a bunch of anon fans "performative" because of their reactions doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure you need an audience to be perform.
I'm going to say something controversial... But why are y'all so outraged?
It's Laurel. Is the same girl that was making fun of someone because she was anorexyc and using it as an attack to be mean. Like that video goes viral every month on The Challenge twitter community and no one ever bats an eye about it.
Laurel is trash, always has been. That's why she's good TV.
But it's giving performative. When other people are the ones in the other end no one says anything.
I hate Laurel, but this is definitely surprising to me. I can't speak for other people.
while laurel's issues with nicole are ovbiously not on the same level as cara's with abe/kyle, I see people dismissing the laurel/nicole dynamic as something just goofy or dumb, but what nicole did to her emotionally and mentally is absolutely traumatic and is a very serious thing that can **** someone up badly. so lets not do that.
that being said, laurel's rage on cara is absolutely projection cause she knows she spent an entire season getting played and walked all over like a doormat by that nasty Bug's Life looking freak and it will get aired for everyone to see. but both laurel and cara have been hurt and have gotten really fvvucked up in the head from people who have no empathy and are rotted inside, it's sad to see, let's not invalidate either one's struggles as 'not a big deal' just because cara has a history of being messy or laurel's trauma's aren't 'as bad'
How many times has someones past trauma regarding abuse been brought up on this show? Wasnt the only other time Tonya vs Veronica and they edited all that out? People were upset about that too.
I'm going to say something controversial... But why are y'all so outraged?
It's Laurel. Is the same girl that was making fun of someone because she was anorexyc and using it as an attack to be mean. Like that video goes viral every month on The Challenge twitter community and no one ever bats an eye about it.
Laurel is trash, always has been. That's why she's good TV.
But it's giving performative. When other people are the ones in the other end no one says anything.
I don't think anyone thought Laurel would go so far as bring up someone's abusive past, especially someone she was friends with during one of the abusive relationships.
Sorry if some of us thought she was better than how she was over a decade ago.
I'm going to say something controversial... But why are y'all so outraged?
It's Laurel. Is the same girl that was making fun of someone because she was anorexyc and using it as an attack to be mean. Like that video goes viral every month on The Challenge twitter community and no one ever bats an eye about it.
Laurel is trash, always has been. That's why she's good TV.
But it's giving performative. When other people are the ones in the other end no one says anything.
I don't think anyone thought Laurel would go so far as bring up someone's abusive past, especially someone she was friends with during one of the abusive relationships.
Sorry if some of us thought she was better than how she was over a decade ago.
So 10 years ago it was OK for her to go as far as using a health problem and we can share it and RT it and celebrate it, but now is bad?
I'm sorry but for me is giving "I care more about Cara than I care about others".
If the person in the other end was Tori or Josh everyone would celebrate. And I'm sure about that.
Disappointed in Laurel and I'm a big big big Laurel stan, that's just NASTY. What sucks to see is knowing how long these two have known each other for and they have such a wild crazy relationship, it's sad that they seem to rarely ever be on the same page and on good terms. :/
I'm going to say something controversial... But why are y'all so outraged?
It's Laurel. Is the same girl that was making fun of someone because she was anorexyc and using it as an attack to be mean. Like that video goes viral every month on The Challenge twitter community and no one ever bats an eye about it.
Laurel is trash, always has been. That's why she's good TV.
But it's giving performative. When other people are the ones in the other end no one says anything.
I hate Laurel, but this is definitely surprising to me. I can't speak for other people.
Always hated Laurel but this is a new low for her idc. I am suprised, this is a dumb game show, it should never go this far. It's not even the drama I would like to see
I'm going to say something controversial... But why are y'all so outraged?
It's Laurel. Is the same girl that was making fun of someone because she was anorexyc and using it as an attack to be mean. Like that video goes viral every month on The Challenge twitter community and no one ever bats an eye about it.
Laurel is trash, always has been. That's why she's good TV.
But it's giving performative. When other people are the ones in the other end no one says anything.
I don't think anyone thought Laurel would go so far as bring up someone's abusive past, especially someone she was friends with during one of the abusive relationships.
Sorry if some of us thought she was better than how she was over a decade ago.
So 10 years ago it was OK for her to go as far as using a health problem and we can share it and RT it and celebrate it, but now is bad?
I'm sorry but for me is giving "I care more about Cara than I care about others".
If the person in the other end was Tori or Josh everyone would celebrate. And I'm sure about that.
So you want us to be mad over something that happened god knows how long ago and for what reason? It's almost as if you're witch hunting for something someone did so long ago, what if Laurel and Paula spoke and moved on? We don't know that?
Clearly Cara provoked Laurel and made comments about her toxic relationship with Nicole. Then a drunk Laurel just lost her mind and told Cara she has no room to talk when she was in 2 abusive relationships. Both are wrong. I hope they are able to work it out and it's not too dark of an atmosphere.
Back then I watched the show and went about my business, now we see these challengers and podcasts etc and see what they try to present themselves as. Laurel was on a podcast RIGHT before 40 discussing her own trauma and being SA'd, so sorry if I'm shocked.
They aren't "facts," dummy. No shit it would be helpful to see how it played out, but we still have enough information to know that Laurel is a piece of shit (which isn't even a revelation).
Also, it's ironic that you said "facts" to a post saying that Cara will bring up dirty laundry and act shook when people retaliate when not only is that made up, but that's exactly what you did in this thread. Once again, the self-awareness is nonexistent with you.
sounds like you got bullied when you were younger and don't know how to stick up for yourself like your hero Cara. Do me a favor, grow a set and retaliate. Everyone is always playing the victim. You get no sympathy from me. Keep complaining like you always do LOL.
So 10 years ago it was OK for her to go as far as using a health problem and we can share it and RT it and celebrate it, but now is bad?
I'm sorry but for me is giving "I care more about Cara than I care about others".
If the person in the other end was Tori or Josh everyone would celebrate. And I'm sure about that.
What part of "some of us thought she was better than how she was over a decade ago" do you not understand? We thought she'd not go that deep again.
On top of that, you don't know if anyone now being mad wasn't also mad at the time of the Laurel/Paula incident. Or hell, even if they weren't upset back then but now think it was too far, that's okay too -- it's been a decade, people can change how they view stuff in over 10 years. It's called growth.
Also, I'm not a Cara fan and in fact do like Tori, so you're barking up the wrong tree there at least for relying to me. No a fan of Josh but I would be equally made if someone brought up if he had abusive relationships in the past. I was happy Laurel/Cara were back not because I'm a fan of either but because they made great tv in the past and it'd been a while since I'd seen either.
Clearly Cara provoked Laurel and made comments about her toxic relationship with Nicole. Then a drunk Laurel just lost her mind and told Cara she has no room to talk when she was in 2 abusive relationships. Both are wrong. I hope they are able to work it out and it's not too dark of an atmosphere.
this makes the most sense. Cara tries to dish it but can't take it. Then she pulls the victim card. **** and stick up for yourself. Bullies get bullied stop being a ***** then. Cara's arms are too short to box with god (in this case that's Laurel to her)
If the person in the other end was Tori or Josh everyone would celebrate. And I'm sure about that.
And surely you're wrong about everyone. only deranged stans will blindly follow someone regardless of right and wrong. I dont even think most people here are even Cara fans (other than CML obv). Bringing up someones past abuse has never and will never be okay. Doesnt matter who the victim was. Theres other things that have happened in this shows history that you can look at it with a lens of "well that was socially acceptable to say 15 years ago" (mind you, doesnt mean all fans agreed with it at the time) but bringing up someones abuse was never okay. See the cast reactions to Veronica on the Ruins.
Cara has a history of exposing people's dirt and spilling people's tea and then being shook when people retaliate. And Laurel has a history of being foul and hitting below the belt if she feels she needs to. I'd like to see what really happened before bringing out the pitch forks.
I knew by the PFP your take on this would be terrible. Don't pretend like you're just waiting to see what happened to pick a side when you had excuses prepped to go against Cara and to defend Laurel.
Wrong I'll have no problem eating my words because unlike a lot of people on here I know people I like are flawed (especially Laurel) and I could be wrong. I just am not gonna attack and bring out the pitchforks just from a paragraph that a spoiler person posted. Nobody knows what happened and Cara has flaws too. I like Cara btw lol
So 10 years ago it was OK for her to go as far as using a health problem and we can share it and RT it and celebrate it, but now is bad?
I'm sorry but for me is giving "I care more about Cara than I care about others".
If the person in the other end was Tori or Josh everyone would celebrate. And I'm sure about that.
What part of "some of us thought she was better than how she was over a decade ago" do you not understand? We thought she'd not go that deep again.
On top of that, you don't know if anyone now being mad wasn't also mad at the time of the Laurel/Paula incident. Or hell, even if they weren't upset back then but now think it was too far, that's okay too -- it's been a decade, people can change how they view stuff in over 10 years. It's called growth.
Also, I'm not a Cara fan and in fact do like Tori, so you're barking up the wrong tree there at least for relying to me. No a fan of Josh but I would be equally made if someone brought up if he had abusive relationships in the past. I was happy Laurel/Cara were back not because I'm a fan of either but because they made great tv in the past and it'd been a while since I'd seen either.
I replayed to you because you where the one that quoted me. I wasnt saying that about you expecifically either. I was just explaining some behaviour (in twitter and in here) that I'm seeing.
I'm sorry but for me is incomprehensible to share the Laurel/Paula incident 2 weeks ago saying something among the lines of "Missing the good old Challenge days" and now be outraged by this.
Can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading. Why does everything have to come down to who's a fan of who? I have never watched a season of Cara so I have nothing to be a fan of. My reaction is solely based on the info provided. If more info reveals that Cara was the aggressor, I'll extend my disgust to her. It's really that simple. I know this isn't about me, just using my POV as an example.
Clearly Cara provoked Laurel and made comments about her toxic relationship with Nicole. Then a drunk Laurel just lost her mind and told Cara she has no room to talk when she was in 2 abusive relationships. Both are wrong. I hope they are able to work it out and it's not too dark of an atmosphere.
This is just another blind defense I'm sorry. Saying "clearly Cara did this and that's why Laurel did that" is ridiculous. We don't know in what context it came up so we don't know that Cara said anything about Nicole. Saying both are wrong when nothing Cara has done has been spoken on by PR/Gamer is just absurd.
Unless Cara brought up trauma Laurel has faced, I cant see Laurels side being justified. And choosing to get back with a serial cheater multiple times after being embarrassed on multiple tv shows is not trauma, thats a choice.
Getting back with a serial cheater MULTIPLE TIMES when that cheater has gfs then going around crying because you received the same karma back of the same pain you put other women through....
Cara has a history of exposing people's dirt and spilling people's tea and then being shook when people retaliate. And Laurel has a history of being foul and hitting below the belt if she feels she needs to. I'd like to see what really happened before bringing out the pitch forks.
As someone who was a Laurel fan myself -- stop. Come on. First, Cara doesn't have a history of that, you're projecting.
Second, you know that Laurel digs dirty and people don't have to do much to trigger her to go mean. This is fine when she's calling someone like Easy for filth because it wasn't about a trauma or abuse. Laurel crossed a line if she brought up anything about Cara's history, especially as it wasn't super known.
Unless Cara brought up something related to trauma in Laurel's past, which it doesn't sound like it from reports or Gamer/Pink would have mentioned it, then there is no justification. Hell, even if Cara did, there's no justification -- we'd just be all ragging on Cara instead for going too far.
She does have a history of that lol Jenn almost fought her for airing her and Adam's laundry, aired Camila/Bananas dirty laundry, pretty sure aired out other Bananas hookups, didn't she air out Tony/Camila too? I'm sure there's more.
She 100% has a history of throwing gas in the fire and trying to stay out of it clean. Just like Laurel has a history of being a *****. Both can be true.
Unpopular opinion? I like it when people air out unseen hookups. Gives insight as to why the game may have played out how it did. Why did you come to film and hide?! Do it in the offseason if thats the case.
It sucks because Laurel can obviously be very kind to those she cares about / is close to. But she's just got a switch in her where she'll go to the darkest place to hurt someone.
If she was just reading Cara for her taste in trash men without bringing up the abuse, that'd be one thing -- mentioning the abuse is what crosses the line.
exactly, I dont think half of the cast even knows about that stuff. To air out her trauma like that is nasty.
I'm going to say something controversial... But why are y'all so outraged?
It's Laurel. Is the same girl that was making fun of someone because she was anorexyc and using it as an attack to be mean. Like that video goes viral every month on The Challenge twitter community and no one ever bats an eye about it.
Laurel is trash, always has been. That's why she's good TV.
But it's giving performative. When other people are the ones in the other end no one says anything.
Punky, what is Cara and Laurel's relationship now?
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This is a weird point you're trying to make. You want to compare how people react to something that's current vs something that happened years ago? And calling a bunch of anon fans "performative" because of their reactions doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure you need an audience to be perform.
I hate Laurel, but this is definitely surprising to me. I can't speak for other people.
I just found out yesterday that Laurel is mean spirited. That's how much I don't know about her past.
while laurel's issues with nicole are ovbiously not on the same level as cara's with abe/kyle, I see people dismissing the laurel/nicole dynamic as something just goofy or dumb, but what nicole did to her emotionally and mentally is absolutely traumatic and is a very serious thing that can **** someone up badly. so lets not do that.
that being said, laurel's rage on cara is absolutely projection cause she knows she spent an entire season getting played and walked all over like a doormat by that nasty Bug's Life looking freak and it will get aired for everyone to see. but both laurel and cara have been hurt and have gotten really fvvucked up in the head from people who have no empathy and are rotted inside, it's sad to see, let's not invalidate either one's struggles as 'not a big deal' just because cara has a history of being messy or laurel's trauma's aren't 'as bad'
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How many times has someones past trauma regarding abuse been brought up on this show? Wasnt the only other time Tonya vs Veronica and they edited all that out? People were upset about that too.
I don't think anyone thought Laurel would go so far as bring up someone's abusive past, especially someone she was friends with during one of the abusive relationships.
Sorry if some of us thought she was better than how she was over a decade ago.
So 10 years ago it was OK for her to go as far as using a health problem and we can share it and RT it and celebrate it, but now is bad?
I'm sorry but for me is giving "I care more about Cara than I care about others".
If the person in the other end was Tori or Josh everyone would celebrate. And I'm sure about that.
Disappointed in Laurel and I'm a big big big Laurel stan, that's just NASTY. What sucks to see is knowing how long these two have known each other for and they have such a wild crazy relationship, it's sad that they seem to rarely ever be on the same page and on good terms. :/
Always hated Laurel but this is a new low for her idc. I am suprised, this is a dumb game show, it should never go this far. It's not even the drama I would like to see
So you want us to be mad over something that happened god knows how long ago and for what reason? It's almost as if you're witch hunting for something someone did so long ago, what if Laurel and Paula spoke and moved on? We don't know that?
Clearly Cara provoked Laurel and made comments about her toxic relationship with Nicole. Then a drunk Laurel just lost her mind and told Cara she has no room to talk when she was in 2 abusive relationships. Both are wrong. I hope they are able to work it out and it's not too dark of an atmosphere.
Back then I watched the show and went about my business, now we see these challengers and podcasts etc and see what they try to present themselves as. Laurel was on a podcast RIGHT before 40 discussing her own trauma and being SA'd, so sorry if I'm shocked.
sounds like you got bullied when you were younger and don't know how to stick up for yourself like your hero Cara. Do me a favor, grow a set and retaliate. Everyone is always playing the victim. You get no sympathy from me. Keep complaining like you always do LOL.
What part of "some of us thought she was better than how she was over a decade ago" do you not understand? We thought she'd not go that deep again.
On top of that, you don't know if anyone now being mad wasn't also mad at the time of the Laurel/Paula incident. Or hell, even if they weren't upset back then but now think it was too far, that's okay too -- it's been a decade, people can change how they view stuff in over 10 years. It's called growth.
Also, I'm not a Cara fan and in fact do like Tori, so you're barking up the wrong tree there at least for relying to me. No a fan of Josh but I would be equally made if someone brought up if he had abusive relationships in the past. I was happy Laurel/Cara were back not because I'm a fan of either but because they made great tv in the past and it'd been a while since I'd seen either.
this makes the most sense. Cara tries to dish it but can't take it. Then she pulls the victim card. **** and stick up for yourself. Bullies get bullied stop being a ***** then. Cara's arms are too short to box with god (in this case that's Laurel to her)
And surely you're wrong about everyone. only deranged stans will blindly follow someone regardless of right and wrong. I dont even think most people here are even Cara fans (other than CML obv). Bringing up someones past abuse has never and will never be okay. Doesnt matter who the victim was. Theres other things that have happened in this shows history that you can look at it with a lens of "well that was socially acceptable to say 15 years ago" (mind you, doesnt mean all fans agreed with it at the time) but bringing up someones abuse was never okay. See the cast reactions to Veronica on the Ruins.
Wrong I'll have no problem eating my words because unlike a lot of people on here I know people I like are flawed (especially Laurel) and I could be wrong. I just am not gonna attack and bring out the pitchforks just from a paragraph that a spoiler person posted. Nobody knows what happened and Cara has flaws too. I like Cara btw lol
I replayed to you because you where the one that quoted me. I wasnt saying that about you expecifically either. I was just explaining some behaviour (in twitter and in here) that I'm seeing.
I'm sorry but for me is incomprehensible to share the Laurel/Paula incident 2 weeks ago saying something among the lines of "Missing the good old Challenge days" and now be outraged by this.
Can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading. Why does everything have to come down to who's a fan of who? I have never watched a season of Cara so I have nothing to be a fan of. My reaction is solely based on the info provided. If more info reveals that Cara was the aggressor, I'll extend my disgust to her. It's really that simple. I know this isn't about me, just using my POV as an example.
This is just another blind defense I'm sorry. Saying "clearly Cara did this and that's why Laurel did that" is ridiculous. We don't know in what context it came up so we don't know that Cara said anything about Nicole. Saying both are wrong when nothing Cara has done has been spoken on by PR/Gamer is just absurd.
Getting back with a serial cheater MULTIPLE TIMES when that cheater has gfs then going around crying because you received the same karma back of the same pain you put other women through....
She does have a history of that lol Jenn almost fought her for airing her and Adam's laundry, aired Camila/Bananas dirty laundry, pretty sure aired out other Bananas hookups, didn't she air out Tony/Camila too? I'm sure there's more.
She 100% has a history of throwing gas in the fire and trying to stay out of it clean. Just like Laurel has a history of being a *****. Both can be true.
Devin is one of my least favorite players of all-time and I was disgusted by John mentioning his deaths weeks later. So don't group me in there.
Unpopular opinion? I like it when people air out unseen hookups. Gives insight as to why the game may have played out how it did. Why did you come to film and hide?! Do it in the offseason if thats the case.
plus if youre a cheater, welp, thats your karma.
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