The Traitors 2 Episode Discussion (Non-Spoiler Thread)

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Oh I LOVEEE this ending!!! My heart is happy Smile

Kate was so ******* stupid it was mathematically IMPOSSIBLE for there to be 0 traitors. Does she not give a ****, or is she dumb. Or does she not give a **** because she's dumb. Hmmm... 

Can I just say MJs face during the revote irked tf outta me. Looking so dumb and lost, just like that face

She's not a gamer. Her reaction was real.  We have to remember she's not used to this and was with 2 people that have done this for the majority of their lives. 

The finale being so amazing and the reunion being so boring was reminiscent of how the first half of the season was so good and the second half was not as good, but still good. I checked how much time was left like every 5 minutes I was so bored. But maybe I was just tired. But that's why, Andy Cohen, you don't hype up the reunion because you're gonna ruin it. Idk how he wouldn't understand that. He said there were "tears and screaming" oh my Goddd don't **** me off 

Trishelle's reads were AMAZING even when they were wrong. Or is that not how it works... like, can they be good reads if they're incorrect. I thought she had good reasoning for going after CT. 

Coming into this finale I had one person I don't like (Shereé) and two people I hate (Kate/Sandra) and then they all got knocked off in a row, and then CT AND TRISHELLE won. That was what I deserved after Janelle/Dan/Parvati got knocked off in a row. 

Sandra could've easily won this but she flopped because of her moves. After seeing her fumble backwards into two Survivor wins, it's nice to see her terrible strategic gameplay catch up to her for once (aside from when she voted herself out of the game (for no reason) in Winners at War) 

The finale being so amazing and the reunion being so boring was reminiscent of how the first half of the season was so good and the second half was not as good, but still good. I checked how much time was left like every 5 minutes I was so bored. But maybe I was just tired. But that's why, Andy Cohen, you don't hype up the reunion because you're gonna ruin it. Idk how he wouldn't understand that. He said there were "tears and screaming" oh my Goddd don't **** me off 

I literally fell asleep halfway through the reunion and had to catch up on the rest this morning. I didnt miss anything of importance lol

I made it this wholeee season while being faithful... which is not checking the spoiler thread! I'm sooo PROUD of myself Smile

Trishelle's reads were AMAZING even when they were wrong. Or is that not how it works... like, can they be good reads if they're incorrect. I thought she had good reasoning for going after CT. 

I get it and agree. Her reasons for not trusting CT at the end were logical, even if she was ultimately wrong. She was thinking about things the way players should be. It was honestly just like her with Peppermint; even if the conclusion was wrong, there were a couple of legit reasons to think Peppermint was a traitor (especially considering how early it was in the game where there is so little to go on). Trishelle had her head in the game the entire time and was using people's actions and words to make deductions. No faithful can be expected to be right 100% of the time.

I think more than Andy flopping the reunion hype, it was Peter who did. He had said there was a twist involving him, and...it was him giving Phaedra a rose. That is not a twist ****.

I think more than Andy flopping the reunion hype, it was Peter who did. He had said there was a twist involving him, and...it was him giving Phaedra a rose. That is not a twist ****.

Wait... THAT was the twist?!?!?! Omg!!! I'm cackling. I cannot. At least it was a funny moment. But... just... whattt the **** omg lolll 

Ok these trolls on social media really are wild. Now I am seeing where Trishelle is getting hate for voting out Sandra, with people saying it's because Sandra isn't white. Did they even watch the episode?! Trishelle planned to vote out Kate until CT switched it up on her and Trishelle realized CT, Kate, and MJ were voting out Sandra. Trishelle only voted out Sandra because she saw the others were. How is that Trishelle's fault or any kind of example of her targeting nonwhites? My god it's OOC.

Yah Tris****e is being annihilated on social media, and its really not fair. **** shes been going through it all season!  

i forgot to mention that bananas said he had some "tricks up his sleeve" but he wont share in case he goes on another season... how much you wanna bet its those stupid notes again

Ok these trolls on social media really are wild. Now I am seeing where Trishelle is getting hate for voting out Sandra, with people saying it's because Sandra isn't white. Did they even watch the episode?! Trishelle planned to vote out Kate until CT switched it up on her and Trishelle realized CT, Kate, and MJ were voting out Sandra. Trishelle only voted out Sandra because she saw the others were. How is that Trishelle's fault or any kind of example of her targeting nonwhites? My god it's OOC.

NEVER ever everrr listen to those people, and ALWAYS assume that they're 12. Trishelle was amazing this season. She actually won me over when I had hated her before. 

I really wish Andy had asked MJ why she voted to banish Trishelle twice at final 3. There was never any doubt about Trishelle being a faithful. CT did have suspicion on him a couple of times, including Larsa and Phaedra each voting to banish him at separate points. If MJ had voted to banish CT at final 3, then she wins the game with Trishelle. Why isn't anyone asking her about that?

Ok these trolls on social media really are wild. Now I am seeing where Trishelle is getting hate for voting out Sandra, with people saying it's because Sandra isn't white. Did they even watch the episode?! Trishelle planned to vote out Kate until CT switched it up on her and Trishelle realized CT, Kate, and MJ were voting out Sandra. Trishelle only voted out Sandra because she saw the others were. How is that Trishelle's fault or any kind of example of her targeting nonwhites? My god it's OOC.

Trishelle created her image with the unjust attack on Aneesa.  She'll never live that down. Trishelle has always had issues with black women.  See Coral. 

I really wish Andy had asked MJ why she voted to banish Trishelle twice at final 3. There was never any doubt about Trishelle being a faithful. CT did have suspicion on him a couple of times, including Larsa and Phaedra each voting to banish him at separate points. If MJ had voted to banish CT at final 3, then she wins the game with Trishelle. Why isn't anyone asking her about that?

Because she's not a gamer.  She had a deal with Trishelle and when Trishelle threw in the red bag she believed Trishelle turned on her as any sane person would given her friendship with CT. Then after watching CT talk to Trishelle she believed Trishelle would write her name so she said Trishelle hoping CT would vote out of anger. Its not complicated 

 

I really wish Andy had asked MJ why she voted to banish Trishelle twice at final 3. There was never any doubt about Trishelle being a faithful. CT did have suspicion on him a couple of times, including Larsa and Phaedra each voting to banish him at separate points. If MJ had voted to banish CT at final 3, then she wins the game with Trishelle. Why isn't anyone asking her about that?

Because she's not a gamer.  She had a deal with Trishelle and when Trishelle threw in the red bag she believed Trishelle turned on her as any sane person would given her friendship with CT. Then after watching CT talk to Trishelle she believed Trishelle would write her name so she said Trishelle hoping CT would vote out of anger. Its not complicated 

My question was why is no one asking her about it, but thanks for the extra information.

 

 

I really wish Andy had asked MJ why she voted to banish Trishelle twice at final 3. There was never any doubt about Trishelle being a faithful. CT did have suspicion on him a couple of times, including Larsa and Phaedra each voting to banish him at separate points. If MJ had voted to banish CT at final 3, then she wins the game with Trishelle. Why isn't anyone asking her about that?

Because she's not a gamer.  She had a deal with Trishelle and when Trishelle threw in the red bag she believed Trishelle turned on her as any sane person would given her friendship with CT. Then after watching CT talk to Trishelle she believed Trishelle would write her name so she said Trishelle hoping CT would vote out of anger. Its not complicated 

My question was why is no one asking her about it, but thanks for the extra information.

Because she's not a gamer.  You don't even make sense.  We know why.  Why ask a question you know the answer to?   You don't even comprehend after everything Trishelle has done over the years why people are saying she's racist.   Take off the blinders.  Trishelle played a good game and deserved to when but she's a garbage person and has been so since Vegas. 

I think making it to the final 3 as this is your first game show is a great accomplishment. No matter how she got there but she did it.Not everyone can say that.

KVM if someone else was saying what you were saying and it wasn't about Trishelle then you'd be crying about "cancel culture". In no way is Trishelle racist, or even ignorant (her comments to Aneesa were ignorant but it's safe to assume that she's grown in the eleven years since it happened). 

I don't why people are acting shocked people who don't do competitive gameshows feel a way about being betrayed.

MJ being ****** is realistic. Peppermint, although Drag Race is a competition, didn't account for what a show like this would entail. Deontay even left because the environment ended up being triggering.

It's reality TV, these reactions are realistic, I don't fault them for having the reactions they did. (I'm not talking about the stans, strictly the people actually on the show).

I think its just the level of saltiness for me. 

If it was someone who played the game and actively tried to hunt traitors, I would understand that reaction better. MJ was carried because she was a bravo number and mostly had bad reads  (I give her complete credit for sussing out kate though). The woman has loads of money, so its just an ego thing honestly. And she doesn't have smoke for ct, but all the smoke for trishelle. Her saying alan wasnt happy they played that way was just silly lol. She comes off extremely bitter.  And yes, it comes from not being from a game show. But are we just gonna excuse that forever? If a nongamer gets that bitter on season 3, are we gonna keep excusing it? At what point do you acknowledge this show is about lying and betrayals, not about being honest or a good person? its not the first season, so people should be expecting this

KVM if someone else was saying what you were saying and it wasn't about Trishelle then you'd be crying about "cancel culture". In no way is Trishelle racist, or even ignorant (her comments to Aneesa were ignorant but it's safe to assume that she's grown in the eleven years since it happened). 

Who's canceling her?  If someone said she shouldn't be on because of it I'd defend her.  There's no growth with anyone.   People are who they are.

I think its just the level of saltiness for me. 

If it was someone who played the game and actively tried to hunt traitors, I would understand that reaction better. MJ was carried because she was a bravo number and mostly had bad reads  (I give her complete credit for sussing out kate though). The woman has loads of money, so its just an ego thing honestly. And she doesn't have smoke for ct, but all the smoke for trishelle. Her saying alan wasnt happy they played that way was just silly lol. She comes off extremely bitter.  And yes, it comes from not being from a game show. But are we just gonna excuse that forever? If a nongamer gets that bitter on season 3, are we gonna keep excusing it? At what point do you acknowledge this show is about lying and betrayals, not about being honest or a good person? its not the first season, so people should be expecting this

It's her first game and she thought she won when they got rid of Kate--her anger isn't shocking

As far as why is she mad at Trishelle not CT that could be many things.  Did CT have a better discussion with her afterwards?  Did she expect less of CT?

John's bitter and no one is defending him because that's his life.  This is all new to MJ.  She was proud of herself which you can see when Kate left then lost. People hold on to way less.

its not the first season, so people should be expecting this

 

its not the first season, so people should be expecting this

I'll have to watch S1 eventually but wasn't this way more Cutthroat 

Not gonna spoil it, but season one had the power dynamics of normal people who worshipped reality stars and thus were fooled by their idol worship. It shouldve been a clear warning for future players to not trust people in this game (especially people from competition shows & especially when you dont have a pre-existing relationship with them.)

 

 

its not the first season, so people should be expecting this

I'll have to watch S1 eventually but wasn't this way more Cutthroat 

No, if anything season 1 was more cutthroat (at least some of the specific moves).

 

 

 

I really wish Andy had asked MJ why she voted to banish Trishelle twice at final 3. There was never any doubt about Trishelle being a faithful. CT did have suspicion on him a couple of times, including Larsa and Phaedra each voting to banish him at separate points. If MJ had voted to banish CT at final 3, then she wins the game with Trishelle. Why isn't anyone asking her about that?

Because she's not a gamer.  She had a deal with Trishelle and when Trishelle threw in the red bag she believed Trishelle turned on her as any sane person would given her friendship with CT. Then after watching CT talk to Trishelle she believed Trishelle would write her name so she said Trishelle hoping CT would vote out of anger. Its not complicated 

My question was why is no one asking her about it, but thanks for the extra information.

Because she's not a gamer.  You don't even make sense.  We know why.  Why ask a question you know the answer to?

I don't know the answer to it. You seem to be saying they aren't asking her a game question because she's not a gamer, but she was just in a game. Andy could surely have asked her about her thought process throughout the game and at final 3 like he asked other people (including people who were not gamers).

You don't even comprehend after everything Trishelle has done over the years why people are saying she's racist.   Take off the blinders.  Trishelle played a good game and deserved to when but she's a garbage person and has been so since Vegas. 

I know there was something over a decade with Aneesa she apparently apologized for. I don't know about anything else, at least until Traitors. To me everything she did within Traitors made sense from a game perspective, so I can't say I have reason to believe it had anything to do with race. If she has stuff between whatever happened with Aneesa and now then ok, but if it was like 1 thing over a decade ago that isn't really a pattern.

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