Jess is needed for The Challenge as well. She'd give us an amazing three episodes.
I was thinking about adding her but she's definitely giving early third boot vibes. She's gonna give us a cute elimination win on episode one then get booted when they toss her in again.
And, you know what? That's all she needs to do.
She ate that elimination with Liberty up. She's crafty, I think the era of the Challenge she might've gone far in has passed.
But, idc she and a few others can show up, I just hope they aren't done with Love Island people because they're very capable of providing.
See Idk if Imani can do the political game on the challenge. The putting it in everyones box instead of just switching to the other alliance wouldve made more sense, she just ****** everyone off with that. But still, we need good black female competitors on the challenge so I welcome the thought of her on there. Hopefully she studies beforehand and works on her game.
i think its pretty obvious whos going home too. They knew what time it was when justine avoided eye contact.
I expected season 4 girls to have a better alliance but they both (mostly)just did what their partner wanted.
How does courtney stand on she doesnt want someone to use her for her looks, just to immediately sleep with scott the first night together? Girl you played yourself!
CHALLENGE PRODUCTION BETTER NOT CALL DEB! Her pretending she couldnt bob for an apple was clearly so contrived because she didnt want to make anyone mad. Get this girl off my screen already.
Actually the more I think about it, justine and imani on the challenge would be very interesting. Theres definitely tension there, as there is no interaction between the two online. You would think if they got on the flagship, they would team up, but Imani was gunning for Justine from jump and we all see whats about to happen. Justine has her connections to Bananas and played with a few other champs. Idk if Challengers would love Imani or find her fake.
People don't realize Imani and Ray were at the bottom, regardless of what Imani did.
Jack said he wanted the four of them (him, Callum, Johnny, and Eyal) in the final. Had Ray not walked in no one would've thought about him.
Ray should've run to Imani IMMEDIATELY and devised a plan. But his head is in his ***.
Imani has been trying to make this move, and Ray kept protecting his friends, who would come for him eventually. Had he played ball with the apples, I don't think Imani would've panicked and put them in everyone else's.
See Idk if Imani can do the political game on the challenge. The putting it in everyones box instead of just switching to the other alliance wouldve made more sense, she just ****** everyone off with that. But still, we need good black female competitors on the challenge so I welcome the thought of her on there. Hopefully she studies beforehand and works on her game.
who did you vote for MVPs?
Kam spent her first season throwing grenades at Cara that didn't land, and that was the extent of her political prowess.
So I'm willing to look at Imani's mistake as just that, a mistake. And, honestly, no one has much of a political game either. Justine and Cely just walked in with a rotating circle of friends and there wasn't much politics in Justine picking Jack.
And, idk if I wanna do Imani or Jessica. I actually find some of the guys entertaining but 15k? Johnny do need to buy diapers.
Idk about yall but I stan Germany and Courtney. Black twitter siding with Imani but Imani being annoying. Im living for Justine turning on the black women let me read to see what side black fans take. I also like zeta being so cutthroat. Love island 2 black female winner bs love island 4 black female winner! I love black on black crime especially between champions and women.
I knew matching saving zeta was a mistake. If he goes home it's cause if that decision. If he chose Jess they would survive 100%. Also didn't sit right with me the two Asian Australian women went home together!
Tbh I haven't watched an episode of this, but keep the internationals off the challenge. Until I see Jeff, Keenan, Mike, Carrington, Tre, Timmy, Isaiah, etc get a shot, I'm good on anybody from the international iterations.
Why don't yall want Courtney on the challenge? She's the only one not afraid to call people out minus Jess.
ive loved courtney since her season but i find it hard to believe she would do a challenge given all her surgeries and her seeing what happened to olivia.
in fact, justine is the only woman since that happened that seems to have expressed interest in the Challenge. (Although I dont know if season 5 people know what happened so it may be different for them). I just remembered right after season 4 ended was when olivia went to dinner with multiple love island usa girls and was showing them pics before the challenge had aired so all the girls were saying **** no to the fan questions about doing the challenge.
I understand Imani trying to get out Justine team USA loyalty means nothing. Justine/Jack/Cely/Toby/Eyal/Johnny had that villa locked and loaded there was no moving into that they were getting her outta there regardless
Where Imani messed up at is going in every direction and essentially making a move against the power structure while also making a move against the minority at the same time therefore making everybody mad. I didnt understand that one. If you're coming after the majority alliance baby you gotta go all in.
Imani/Ray/Zeta/Mitch/Courtney/Scott should've all teamed up and they definitely would've had the opportunity to at least take out a power couple in the power structure out but instead they all screwed each other.
Also Johnny screwed Ray at the beginning of the season picking him to face off in a elimination so in mind eyes Ray shouldn't have no problems with screwing Johnny but these players don't think nowadays. They forgive too easily just to get screwed again in the end
Where Imani messed up at is going in every direction and essentially making a move against the power structure while also making a move against the minority at the same time therefore making everybody mad. I didnt understand that one. If you're coming after the majority alliance baby you gotta go all in.
I feel like Imani only went for Courtney because Deb did it and screwed up potentially getting someone else out. At that point it was like "well Courtney is going anyway might as well keep myself safe". Because if she stuck to Justine/Jack or Johnny/Bangs they could've targeted her. She went too early in that challenge.
The apples were dumb but Ray chose to go for Zeta and Mitch anyway, so that was another plan screwed. Idk if she thought it would look less odd if she just started coming for everyone but she just had to stand in it atp.
That wasn't without flaw but Ray didn't pivot at the right time and that was the right time.
Imani/Ray/Zeta/Mitch/Courtney/Scott should've all teamed up and they definitely would've had the opportunity to at least take out a power couple in the power structure out but instead they all screwed each other.
Also Johnny screwed Ray at the beginning of the season picking him to face off in a elimination so in mind eyes Ray shouldn't have no problems with screwing Johnny but these players don't think nowadays. They forgive too easily just to get screwed again in the end
And, that's exactly what I think she was trying to do. Giving her word to Courtney and never targeting Zeta in any portion (and vice-versa).
Ray needed to realize how the numbers were going to fall and Imani's been trying to wittle at the clear majority since the start. She knew she would be at the bottom of that dynamic and I hate she never had the support of her partners.
And Ray is extra dumb because he heard Jack exclude him before , and he knew it was three teams that would be vulnerable. Putting Johnny and ole girl in the bottom forces everyone left to target Zeta and Mitch over them in that last round.
The fact he forgave Johnny when Johnny didn't even know if he was sending Ray home is ridiculous.
I'm sorry I hate someone whose *****-made. He let Mike son him fr too.
Imani/Ray/Zeta/Mitch/Courtney/Scott should've all teamed up and they definitely would've had the opportunity to at least take out a power couple in the power structure out but instead they all screwed each other.
Also Johnny screwed Ray at the beginning of the season picking him to face off in a elimination so in mind eyes Ray shouldn't have no problems with screwing Johnny but these players don't think nowadays. They forgive too easily just to get screwed again in the end
And, that's exactly what I think she was trying to do. Giving her word to Courtney and never targeting Zeta in any portion (and vice-versa).
Ray needed to realize how the numbers were going to fall and Imani's been trying to wittle at the clear majority since the start. She knew she would be at the bottom of that dynamic and I hate she never had the support of her partners.
And Ray is extra dumb because he heard Jack exclude him before , and he knew it was three teams that would be vulnerable. Putting Johnny and ole girl in the bottom forces everyone left to target Zeta and Mitch over them in that last round.
The fact he forgave Johnny when Johnny didn't even know if he was sending Ray home is ridiculous.
I'm sorry I hate someone whose *****-made. He let Mike son him fr too.
that's my problem with Ray he do too much crying and too weak minded especially for a game like this. The moment word got back to Justine by Johnny that Imani wanted to send her home early in the season Ray should've followed along Imani because at that point they were screwed anyways
Too many players just want to ride the middle and pray to get to the end nowadays instead of fighting to actually get there when they're in the minority.
Too many players just want to ride the middle and pray to get to the end nowadays instead of fighting to actually get there when they're in the minority.
We're seeing this a lot in competition shows in general. It's getting kind of boring.
Too many players just want to ride the middle and pray to get to the end nowadays instead of fighting to actually get there when they're in the minority.
We're seeing this a lot in competition shows in general. It's getting kind of boring.
Too many players just want to ride the middle and pray to get to the end nowadays instead of fighting to actually get there when they're in the minority.
And I'm seeing people saying Imani should've thrown challenges or waited until the end to make a move (like, mind you, this is the end). If they'd just admit this would happen regardless, I'd care less. Like it's fine if people prefer Justine and Jack, but their stans' main criticism of Imani is not rolling over. It's the game, and Justine was lucky enough to take the shot no one would let Imani take.
They had nothing to lose if Ray knew Justine knew Imani was gunning for her. Imani looked messy, but if Ray supported her at any turn, they could've saved themselves and focused on the repercussions later.
Thank god Scott, Mitch, and Zeta at least wanted to play the game as bombshells. They just came in too late.
This shouldve gotten at least 5 more episodes to flesh out the last bombshells and to give us more of whats going on. Like the fact they cut out Lib & callum lying about the hideaway and hooking up, causing him and mike to have drama is beyond me. That wouldve been good tv.
I have a eye for star talent and Imani/Callum have potential to be the future faces of the challenge but production isn't all that bright so they don't understand my vision
they would've fit well in the vendettas era...let's not waste their time and hope they get called for summer house or something
Why was Imani snappy with every girl that called her out this season but MUTE when Justine said she can't trust her which is why she voted her out. Maybe Imani isn't built for the challenge if she's intimidated by Justine of all people.
I only caught the second half of this episode, and this show's endgame is eating.
Imani tried making strategic moves, but Ray was still holding her back. She was right about where they stood, and he wouldn't listen.
I feel like I know who leaves, but I'll wait for everyone using this thread to catch up before I say names.
Imani also leaned into being a villain a bit. Yeah, we need her on the Challenge.
Johnny has earned his spot on House of Villains and the Traitors.
Mitch, Scott, and Zeta aren't doing much for me personality-wise, but they came to play, so they have my respect.
Courtney was mad at Imani more than her real-life friend Deb? At least Imani flicked that pie back on her.
The cliffhanger.... and I think next episode is unseen bits so this wait is gonna suck.
And, you know what? That's all she needs to do.
She ate that elimination with Liberty up. She's crafty, I think the era of the Challenge she might've gone far in has passed.
But, idc she and a few others can show up, I just hope they aren't done with Love Island people because they're very capable of providing.
See Idk if Imani can do the political game on the challenge. The putting it in everyones box instead of just switching to the other alliance wouldve made more sense, she just ****** everyone off with that. But still, we need good black female competitors on the challenge so I welcome the thought of her on there. Hopefully she studies beforehand and works on her game.
i think its pretty obvious whos going home too. They knew what time it was when justine avoided eye contact.
I expected season 4 girls to have a better alliance but they both (mostly)just did what their partner wanted.
How does courtney stand on she doesnt want someone to use her for her looks, just to immediately sleep with scott the first night together? Girl you played yourself!
CHALLENGE PRODUCTION BETTER NOT CALL DEB! Her pretending she couldnt bob for an apple was clearly so contrived because she didnt want to make anyone mad. Get this girl off my screen already.
who did you vote for MVPs?
Actually the more I think about it, justine and imani on the challenge would be very interesting. Theres definitely tension there, as there is no interaction between the two online. You would think if they got on the flagship, they would team up, but Imani was gunning for Justine from jump and we all see whats about to happen. Justine has her connections to Bananas and played with a few other champs. Idk if Challengers would love Imani or find her fake.
People don't realize Imani and Ray were at the bottom, regardless of what Imani did.
Jack said he wanted the four of them (him, Callum, Johnny, and Eyal) in the final. Had Ray not walked in no one would've thought about him.
Ray should've run to Imani IMMEDIATELY and devised a plan. But his head is in his ***.
Imani has been trying to make this move, and Ray kept protecting his friends, who would come for him eventually. Had he played ball with the apples, I don't think Imani would've panicked and put them in everyone else's.
Kam spent her first season throwing grenades at Cara that didn't land, and that was the extent of her political prowess.
So I'm willing to look at Imani's mistake as just that, a mistake. And, honestly, no one has much of a political game either. Justine and Cely just walked in with a rotating circle of friends and there wasn't much politics in Justine picking Jack.
And, idk if I wanna do Imani or Jessica. I actually find some of the guys entertaining but 15k? Johnny do need to buy diapers.
Idk about yall but I stan Germany and Courtney. Black twitter siding with Imani but Imani being annoying. Im living for Justine turning on the black women let me read to see what side black fans take. I also like zeta being so cutthroat. Love island 2 black female winner bs love island 4 black female winner! I love black on black crime especially between champions and women.
I wish destiny was on this her unstable *** would've hit someone after they backstabbed her
Why is Justine untouchable to black women? They're even turning on zeta for her.
I knew matching saving zeta was a mistake. If he goes home it's cause if that decision. If he chose Jess they would survive 100%. Also didn't sit right with me the two Asian Australian women went home together!
Why don't yall want Courtney on the challenge? She's the only one not afraid to call people out minus Jess.
Tbh I haven't watched an episode of this, but keep the internationals off the challenge. Until I see Jeff, Keenan, Mike, Carrington, Tre, Timmy, Isaiah, etc get a shot, I'm good on anybody from the international iterations.
ive loved courtney since her season but i find it hard to believe she would do a challenge given all her surgeries and her seeing what happened to olivia.
in fact, justine is the only woman since that happened that seems to have expressed interest in the Challenge. (Although I dont know if season 5 people know what happened so it may be different for them). I just remembered right after season 4 ended was when olivia went to dinner with multiple love island usa girls and was showing them pics before the challenge had aired so all the girls were saying **** no to the fan questions about doing the challenge.
I understand Imani trying to get out Justine team USA loyalty means nothing. Justine/Jack/Cely/Toby/Eyal/Johnny had that villa locked and loaded there was no moving into that they were getting her outta there regardless
Where Imani messed up at is going in every direction and essentially making a move against the power structure while also making a move against the minority at the same time therefore making everybody mad. I didnt understand that one. If you're coming after the majority alliance baby you gotta go all in.
Imani/Ray/Zeta/Mitch/Courtney/Scott should've all teamed up and they definitely would've had the opportunity to at least take out a power couple in the power structure out but instead they all screwed each other.
Also Johnny screwed Ray at the beginning of the season picking him to face off in a elimination so in mind eyes Ray shouldn't have no problems with screwing Johnny but these players don't think nowadays. They forgive too easily just to get screwed again in the end
I feel like Imani only went for Courtney because Deb did it and screwed up potentially getting someone else out. At that point it was like "well Courtney is going anyway might as well keep myself safe". Because if she stuck to Justine/Jack or Johnny/Bangs they could've targeted her. She went too early in that challenge.
The apples were dumb but Ray chose to go for Zeta and Mitch anyway, so that was another plan screwed. Idk if she thought it would look less odd if she just started coming for everyone but she just had to stand in it atp.
That wasn't without flaw but Ray didn't pivot at the right time and that was the right time.
And, that's exactly what I think she was trying to do. Giving her word to Courtney and never targeting Zeta in any portion (and vice-versa).
Ray needed to realize how the numbers were going to fall and Imani's been trying to wittle at the clear majority since the start. She knew she would be at the bottom of that dynamic and I hate she never had the support of her partners.
And Ray is extra dumb because he heard Jack exclude him before , and he knew it was three teams that would be vulnerable. Putting Johnny and ole girl in the bottom forces everyone left to target Zeta and Mitch over them in that last round.
The fact he forgave Johnny when Johnny didn't even know if he was sending Ray home is ridiculous.
I'm sorry I hate someone whose *****-made. He let Mike son him fr too.
that's my problem with Ray he do too much crying and too weak minded especially for a game like this. The moment word got back to Justine by Johnny that Imani wanted to send her home early in the season Ray should've followed along Imani because at that point they were screwed anyways
Too many players just want to ride the middle and pray to get to the end nowadays instead of fighting to actually get there when they're in the minority.
We're seeing this a lot in competition shows in general. It's getting kind of boring.
wait so im a little confused cuz i've never watched this. Is this show semi live the same way BB is? or is ir prerecorded like the typical show?
prefilmed
Exactly I hate coward gameplay
And I'm seeing people saying Imani should've thrown challenges or waited until the end to make a move (like, mind you, this is the end). If they'd just admit this would happen regardless, I'd care less. Like it's fine if people prefer Justine and Jack, but their stans' main criticism of Imani is not rolling over. It's the game, and Justine was lucky enough to take the shot no one would let Imani take.
They had nothing to lose if Ray knew Justine knew Imani was gunning for her. Imani looked messy, but if Ray supported her at any turn, they could've saved themselves and focused on the repercussions later.
Thank god Scott, Mitch, and Zeta at least wanted to play the game as bombshells. They just came in too late.
This shouldve gotten at least 5 more episodes to flesh out the last bombshells and to give us more of whats going on. Like the fact they cut out Lib & callum lying about the hideaway and hooking up, causing him and mike to have drama is beyond me. That wouldve been good tv.
i miss lisa georgia liberty jess kyra and megan..
they would've fit well in the vendettas era...let's not waste their time and hope they get called for summer house or something
Why was Imani snappy with every girl that called her out this season but MUTE when Justine said she can't trust her which is why she voted her out. Maybe Imani isn't built for the challenge if she's intimidated by Justine of all people.
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