Doubling up on the weight USA's gurney but making them still use four people was an unfair advantage.
Either make it so more people have to carry it or say they can only have the same amount of people the UK had to carry the gurney.
Essentially, team USA should've had the same amount of weight, just have them exclude two people who can never touch the gurney and impose a penalty if they do.
Or have it so that Team USA could pick who does the check points instead of everyone has to do it so that UK can always have a lead coming out of check points
somebody said the final 6 girls are split down the middle between who's ****** Nelson and who's ****** Fessy
Olive oil never gave it up to Nelson
huh? Where she say that? Multiple people said her ******* were keeping them up, and if I remember correctly, she was giggling when bananas said they were ******* everywhere.
My point is the show is fake. They can rig any outcome they want, which they do. Why has it never been in favor of a black male, yet it always takes away their opportunity.
Nelson's "loss" on Invasion will always be debated and I definitely think he won that. Nelson killed that final and didn't miss a beat, CT had time busters and time penalties, no way he out ran Nelson especially in that shape. Also, people tend to forget that random *** purge that ****** Nelson over on Vendettas. He was definitely finals bound that season.
Cory def wins Total Madness if this show was in it's original state and didn't go through so much BS. It was their golden boy's 20th season, they definitely set that accolade up.
Those are just two examples. It's like this show is scared of having black male winners and Danny seemed to just slip through the cracks because he was the only person that could really endure that USA1 final. This is beating a dead horse though, and I'm not debating it any further.
And then don't get me started on this random lust for the mixed girls to be the new representation for the black girls on the show. The fact that these recent two seasons just have a lack of unambiguous black women is crazy and I also think that is no coincidence.
Them not casting Johnny M told me even more of what I needed to know about this show.
Didn't realize there's Ed stans here... anyone from SLA was a follower and kiss ***. At least Horacio and Olivia would've made moves if they won dailies.
Two rigged wins for CT invasion and WotW2. At least two rigged wins for John the Ruins and TM. One rigged win for Jordan WotW2. Nelson would be a champion, Leroy would be a champion, and Cory would be a champion.
Two rigged wins for CT invasion and WotW2. At least two rigged wins for John the Ruins and TM. One rigged win for Jordan WotW2. Nelson would be a champion, Leroy would be a champion, and Cory would be a champion.
The Ruins I don't think was rigged cause KellyAnne & Sarah damn near almost pulled the biggest upset; also Leroy was never going to be a champ because he flopped that puzzle in WOTW2; more than anything Ashley was robbed of being a x3 champ; agree with the rest
Pretending black men haven't been successful or are somehow targeted by production is delusional. Production absolutely wanted a Leroy win on his final season and would love Cory to win. The reality is the black men they thought would be strong competitors (Ty and Derrick in particular) flopped. I agree they need to cast better black men but they aren't losing because of productions desire for a white male to win.
Being okay with someone winning and rigging it are two different things they would've been fine with Leroy and them winning WotW2 but the rigged it so jordan and CT would win. They made TM two winners so Johnny can get his 7th.
They did everything possible to get Leroy a win. Nothing was rigged for Jordan or CT. I'll give you John. If anything was ever rigged for anyone it was Ashley.
When did they do everything possible to give Leroy a win ?
His last season. PR told us multiple times that they wanted him to win.
kvm gon be like "they replaced adam with mike, & gave him theresa, they really really wanted him to win!"
And I will always argue that Theresa wasn't really an upgrade. On paper, maybe so, but in reality, Nia and Leroy went through SO MUCH that season together and really established a powerful partnership, that I honestly see them winning that shit. They had the drive and brought the drive out of each other and Nia definitely ignited something in Leroy, that Theresa didn't and couldn't.
Pretending black men haven't been successful or are somehow targeted by production is delusional. Production absolutely wanted a Leroy win on his final season and would love Cory to win. The reality is the black men they thought would be strong competitors (Ty and Derrick in particular) flopped. I agree they need to cast better black men but they aren't losing because of productions desire for a white male to win.
Being okay with someone winning and rigging it are two different things they would've been fine with Leroy and them winning WotW2 but the rigged it so jordan and CT would win. They made TM two winners so Johnny can get his 7th.
They did everything possible to get Leroy a win. Nothing was rigged for Jordan or CT. I'll give you John. If anything was ever rigged for anyone it was Ashley.
When did they do everything possible to give Leroy a win ?
His last season. PR told us multiple times that they wanted him to win.
If they wanted him to win, he would've. Peep the rest of their favorites they give wins to. The only one of the golden boys that I feel like actually wins, is Jordan unfortunately.
Pretending black men haven't been successful or are somehow targeted by production is delusional. Production absolutely wanted a Leroy win on his final season and would love Cory to win. The reality is the black men they thought would be strong competitors (Ty and Derrick in particular) flopped. I agree they need to cast better black men but they aren't losing because of productions desire for a white male to win.
Being okay with someone winning and rigging it are two different things they would've been fine with Leroy and them winning WotW2 but the rigged it so jordan and CT would win. They made TM two winners so Johnny can get his 7th.
They did everything possible to get Leroy a win. Nothing was rigged for Jordan or CT. I'll give you John. If anything was ever rigged for anyone it was Ashley.
When did they do everything possible to give Leroy a win ?
His last season. PR told us multiple times that they wanted him to win.
If they wanted him to win, he would've. Peep the rest of their favorites they give wins to. The only one of the golden boys that I feel like actually wins, is Jordan unfortunately.
cant believe you never mentioned all stars 2, the absolute most biased final in challenge history
Two rigged wins for CT invasion and WotW2. At least two rigged wins for John the Ruins and TM. One rigged win for Jordan WotW2. Nelson would be a champion, Leroy would be a champion, and Cory would be a champion.
My point exactly and if we really wanna push the envelope, Cory wins Bloodlines (his first season) as well. He and Mitch had t more weight to carry. Plus that was Cara's 8th season and back then they use to hand people their favorites a win on their 8th try.
Pretending black men haven't been successful or are somehow targeted by production is delusional. Production absolutely wanted a Leroy win on his final season and would love Cory to win. The reality is the black men they thought would be strong competitors (Ty and Derrick in particular) flopped. I agree they need to cast better black men but they aren't losing because of productions desire for a white male to win.
Being okay with someone winning and rigging it are two different things they would've been fine with Leroy and them winning WotW2 but the rigged it so jordan and CT would win. They made TM two winners so Johnny can get his 7th.
They did everything possible to get Leroy a win. Nothing was rigged for Jordan or CT. I'll give you John. If anything was ever rigged for anyone it was Ashley.
When did they do everything possible to give Leroy a win ?
His last season. PR told us multiple times that they wanted him to win.
If they wanted him to win, he would've. Peep the rest of their favorites they give wins to. The only one of the golden boys that I feel like actually wins, is Jordan unfortunately.
Not true. They wanted John and Nany last season and they f it up. You just claim they're given wins because you can't accept your faves flop.
Pretending black men haven't been successful or are somehow targeted by production is delusional. Production absolutely wanted a Leroy win on his final season and would love Cory to win. The reality is the black men they thought would be strong competitors (Ty and Derrick in particular) flopped. I agree they need to cast better black men but they aren't losing because of productions desire for a white male to win.
Being okay with someone winning and rigging it are two different things they would've been fine with Leroy and them winning WotW2 but the rigged it so jordan and CT would win. They made TM two winners so Johnny can get his 7th.
They did everything possible to get Leroy a win. Nothing was rigged for Jordan or CT. I'll give you John. If anything was ever rigged for anyone it was Ashley.
When did they do everything possible to give Leroy a win ?
His last season. PR told us multiple times that they wanted him to win.
He possibly wins wow2 if he qualifys he got 5th behind an injured and gassed paulie.
Pretending black men haven't been successful or are somehow targeted by production is delusional. Production absolutely wanted a Leroy win on his final season and would love Cory to win. The reality is the black men they thought would be strong competitors (Ty and Derrick in particular) flopped. I agree they need to cast better black men but they aren't losing because of productions desire for a white male to win.
Being okay with someone winning and rigging it are two different things they would've been fine with Leroy and them winning WotW2 but the rigged it so jordan and CT would win. They made TM two winners so Johnny can get his 7th.
They did everything possible to get Leroy a win. Nothing was rigged for Jordan or CT. I'll give you John. If anything was ever rigged for anyone it was Ashley.
When did they do everything possible to give Leroy a win ?
His last season. PR told us multiple times that they wanted him to win.
If they wanted him to win, he would've. Peep the rest of their favorites they give wins to. The only one of the golden boys that I feel like actually wins, is Jordan unfortunately.
Not true. They wanted John and Nany last season and they f it up. You just claim they're given wins because you can't accept your faves flop.
The minute the cast dropped we all knew Tori & Devin were winning.
Two rigged wins for CT invasion and WotW2. At least two rigged wins for John the Ruins and TM. One rigged win for Jordan WotW2. Nelson would be a champion, Leroy would be a champion, and Cory would be a champion.
My point exactly and if we really wanna push the envelope, Cory wins Bloodlines (his first season) as well. He and Mitch had t more weight to carry. Plus that was Cara's 8th season and back then they use to hand people their favorites a win on their 8th try.
Pretending black men haven't been successful or are somehow targeted by production is delusional. Production absolutely wanted a Leroy win on his final season and would love Cory to win. The reality is the black men they thought would be strong competitors (Ty and Derrick in particular) flopped. I agree they need to cast better black men but they aren't losing because of productions desire for a white male to win.
Being okay with someone winning and rigging it are two different things they would've been fine with Leroy and them winning WotW2 but the rigged it so jordan and CT would win. They made TM two winners so Johnny can get his 7th.
They did everything possible to get Leroy a win. Nothing was rigged for Jordan or CT. I'll give you John. If anything was ever rigged for anyone it was Ashley.
When did they do everything possible to give Leroy a win ?
His last season. PR told us multiple times that they wanted him to win.
If they wanted him to win, he would've. Peep the rest of their favorites they give wins to. The only one of the golden boys that I feel like actually wins, is Jordan unfortunately.
Not true. They wanted John and Nany last season and they f it up. You just claim they're given wins because you can't accept your faves flop.
The minute the cast dropped we all knew Tori & Devin were winning.
Go back and read the comments. That's a lie. Devin couldn't win. Face facts...
Pretending black men haven't been successful or are somehow targeted by production is delusional. Production absolutely wanted a Leroy win on his final season and would love Cory to win. The reality is the black men they thought would be strong competitors (Ty and Derrick in particular) flopped. I agree they need to cast better black men but they aren't losing because of productions desire for a white male to win.
Being okay with someone winning and rigging it are two different things they would've been fine with Leroy and them winning WotW2 but the rigged it so jordan and CT would win. They made TM two winners so Johnny can get his 7th.
They did everything possible to get Leroy a win. Nothing was rigged for Jordan or CT. I'll give you John. If anything was ever rigged for anyone it was Ashley.
When did they do everything possible to give Leroy a win ?
His last season. PR told us multiple times that they wanted him to win.
If they wanted him to win, he would've. Peep the rest of their favorites they give wins to. The only one of the golden boys that I feel like actually wins, is Jordan unfortunately.
Not true. They wanted John and Nany last season and they f it up. You just claim they're given wins because you can't accept your faves flop.
The minute the cast dropped we all knew Tori & Devin were winning.
Go back and read the comments. That's a lie. Devin couldn't win. Face facts...
Devin & Tori were always winning; Bananas didn't take the final serious enough and has self-admitted to being the sole reason him and Nany lost; Aneesa is Aneesa and Olivia got clocked by a slingshot malfunction and before that cut up her hand and had to get stitches; The only way Devin & Tori were losing was if Faysal & Moriah or Jay & Michele were in the final
Pretending black men haven't been successful or are somehow targeted by production is delusional. Production absolutely wanted a Leroy win on his final season and would love Cory to win. The reality is the black men they thought would be strong competitors (Ty and Derrick in particular) flopped. I agree they need to cast better black men but they aren't losing because of productions desire for a white male to win.
Being okay with someone winning and rigging it are two different things they would've been fine with Leroy and them winning WotW2 but the rigged it so jordan and CT would win. They made TM two winners so Johnny can get his 7th.
They did everything possible to get Leroy a win. Nothing was rigged for Jordan or CT. I'll give you John. If anything was ever rigged for anyone it was Ashley.
When did they do everything possible to give Leroy a win ?
His last season. PR told us multiple times that they wanted him to win.
If they wanted him to win, he would've. Peep the rest of their favorites they give wins to. The only one of the golden boys that I feel like actually wins, is Jordan unfortunately.
Not true. They wanted John and Nany last season and they f it up. You just claim they're given wins because you can't accept your faves flop.
The minute the cast dropped we all knew Tori & Devin were winning.
Go back and read the comments. That's a lie. Devin couldn't win. Face facts...
Devin & Tori were always winning; Bananas didn't take the final serious enough and has self-admitted to being the sole reason him and Nany lost; Aneesa is Aneesa and Olivia got clocked by a slingshot malfunction and before that cut up her hand and had to get stitches
And not taking it seriously they ignored everything to hand it to John and Nany at the end. Production can only do so much unless it's adding a second winner.
Or have it so that Team USA could pick who does the check points instead of everyone has to do it so that UK can always have a lead coming out of check points
huh? Where she say that? Multiple people said her ******* were keeping them up, and if I remember correctly, she was giggling when bananas said they were ******* everywhere.
I do not trust his endurance one bit
Nelson never times out a task never receives a penalty, was visibly in the lead for 2 legs but sure CT wins lol
All of this, but emphasis on the last two
They're *** kissers too lol
Two rigged wins for CT invasion and WotW2. At least two rigged wins for John the Ruins and TM. One rigged win for Jordan WotW2. Nelson would be a champion, Leroy would be a champion, and Cory would be a champion.
The Ruins I don't think was rigged cause KellyAnne & Sarah damn near almost pulled the biggest upset; also Leroy was never going to be a champ because he flopped that puzzle in WOTW2; more than anything Ashley was robbed of being a x3 champ; agree with the rest
His last season. PR told us multiple times that they wanted him to win.
And I will always argue that Theresa wasn't really an upgrade. On paper, maybe so, but in reality, Nia and Leroy went through SO MUCH that season together and really established a powerful partnership, that I honestly see them winning that shit. They had the drive and brought the drive out of each other and Nia definitely ignited something in Leroy, that Theresa didn't and couldn't.
Nope. Theresa was a huge upgrade though as Leroy admitted and they could have just sent him home putting John and Nany in the final.
If they wanted him to win, he would've. Peep the rest of their favorites they give wins to. The only one of the golden boys that I feel like actually wins, is Jordan unfortunately.
cant believe you never mentioned all stars 2, the absolute most biased final in challenge history
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the Final 12 of The Challenge: Battle for a New Champion
My point exactly and if we really wanna push the envelope, Cory wins Bloodlines (his first season) as well. He and Mitch had t more weight to carry. Plus that was Cara's 8th season and back then they use to hand people their favorites a win on their 8th try.
Not true. They wanted John and Nany last season and they f it up. You just claim they're given wins because you can't accept your faves flop.
i'm not even gonna entertain KVM taking Pink Roses throwaway comments about who irrelevant camera men and staff like as gospel.
A new low even for him.
I have a strong hunch that one of these three happened:
1) they tried to throw in Horacio but he won the daily so the house targeted the second likely biggest threat (Ed)
2) Emanuel won the daily, got scared shitless of Horacio and threw Kyland's poor *** for the 4th time and he sent Ed home in a puzzle
3) James or Jay won the daily, threw Horacio in and called Ed down in a size based elimination
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ranking the final 12 based solely on how much i like them. i'd only be unhappy with my bottom 3 winning, but would prefer somebody in my top 6
He possibly wins wow2 if he qualifys he got 5th behind an injured and gassed paulie.
The minute the cast dropped we all knew Tori & Devin were winning.
This is all fan fictionamd truthfully delusional
James really went from first boot to a finalist lol what an icon
Go back and read the comments. That's a lie. Devin couldn't win. Face facts...
don't jinx him lol - i think there's at least one more round before the final, maybe two depending on whether ravyn was purged
Now that Ed is gone I'm honestly fine with anyone but Emmanuel winning. I'd prefer a woman but we'll see
Come on Michele......
Devin & Tori were always winning; Bananas didn't take the final serious enough and has self-admitted to being the sole reason him and Nany lost; Aneesa is Aneesa and Olivia got clocked by a slingshot malfunction and before that cut up her hand and had to get stitches; The only way Devin & Tori were losing was if Faysal & Moriah or Jay & Michele were in the final
My order of who I'm rooting for to win:
1. Michele
2. Colleen
3. Kyland
4. Nurys
5. Horacio
6. Olivia
7. Jay
8. Berna
9. Corey
10. Moriah
11. James
12. Emanuel
And not taking it seriously they ignored everything to hand it to John and Nany at the end. Production can only do so much unless it's adding a second winner.
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