The Challenge: Battle for a new Champion (Non-Spoilers)

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I feel like the issue with this cast is that they legit are casting all flops. The casuals are going to be dragging them the moment they are release on the official challenge page and it will reflect on ratings.

Production is out of touch, we wanted a fresh cast. They proceed to call all the rookies from the past 4 seasons and spin-offs lmao When in reality we wanted a mix of the stronger ones mix with vets that aren’t on regularly or have gotten screw by not being on the vacation alliance

Now wait a minute. Don't yall eat me alive for saying the same thing? It's hard being Vevmo's biggest victim and always being attacked for being in the majority opinion.

Its the way you deliver it! I feel like the majority of us share the same opinion that this very likely can be a disaster in ratings since it's such a risk with the casuals.

But at the same time we are holding hope since some many of them are so hungry to be back on so it can end being a seasons 2. I still I have my doubts but time will tell.

I personally think this risk should have be taken on the global championship spinoff for paramount instead of a flagship season just over the amount of countries being represented. It actually would have made more sense than what they did with 60% or more of the cast for that being Americans. 

I hope Johnny Middlebrooks is on. He seemed to have potential - both with entertainment and comps. And wanted to shake things up.

I don't blame Tory for doing these and she doesn't seem like she's mentally cracking like a lot of people do who so many in a row. It's an easy paycheck and she's likely to get prize money each season so why not? Then she just gets to vacay, rest, and relax for several weeks. Glad production is giving us a break though...well hopefully.

I personally think this risk should have be taken on the global championship spinoff for paramount instead of a flagship season just over the amount of countries being represented. It actually would have made more sense than what they did with 60% or more of the cast for that being Americans. 

if they were green lit a set amount of spin-offs they could have simply just saved one for Redemption. It's a perfect spin-off theme. Give a smaller prize a champ title and a gurranteed spot on the following flagship season to the winners 

I feel like the issue with this cast is that they legit are casting all flops. The casuals are going to be dragging them the moment they are release on the official challenge page and it will reflect on ratings.

Production is out of touch, we wanted a fresh cast. They proceed to call all the rookies from the past 4 seasons and spin-offs lmao When in reality we wanted a mix of the stronger ones mix with vets that aren’t on regularly or have gotten screw by not being on the vacation alliance

did we.. actually agree on something? 

The whole global championship series was a flop they really could've put this season and replaced it with one of those spin-offs 

But they don't think baby 

I hope Johnny Middlebrooks is on. He seemed to have potential - both with entertainment and comps. And wanted to shake things up.

I think both him and Nurys will be on but Pinky is probably saving some people for the cast reveal 

Hopefully she's saving Queen Bayleigh for departure day too * crosses fingers * I need at least three good surprises for departure day

the theme should just be, "screwed by the vacation alliance" doesn't have to be all non winners because we know they will all be back and running season 40 

I really think they're just putting this cast together to save all the important people for Season 40 and save costs. I wouldn't be surprised if they rushed this out to get to what everyone really wants to see 

We're going from Season 39: Emanuel Logan Bettina Berna Kim Moriah Jay Melissa Jujuy

to 

Season 40: Ashley Kam Laurel Cara Amber Tori Nany Aneesa Jonna CT Wes Tony Cory Darrell Jordan Nelson John Zach Leroy and some other legends/super vets in the mix 

Hopefully she's saving Queen Bayleigh for departure day too * crosses fingers * I need at least three good surprises for departure day

If she does come back, I'd rather she do 40 with some mix of the other BB20 folks. I can't see her doing both seasons.

i mean an alliance runs pretty much every challenge season. San Diego and Cancun ran BOTS2 and people were just hyping that up two days ago 

Yes. But seeing the same alliance dominate season after season loses its allure after a while. So, seeing a cast comprised of mostly new people and seeing how a dominant alliance is developed is fun. 

You can build an amazing non-champs season without using all these scrubs.

Simple cast test: if you announce a name and 10 people say they hate them before 3 people say they like them: DON'T CAST THEM.

I like people are criticizing Tori and even Cara for being someone that would day yes.  That's true of a ton of people. Again, the criticism of people wanting to do something they enjoy is weird.  They also realize once you leave you're easily replaced unless you're Coral.  

 

The positive thing with this cast I feel like we are getting hookups and ppl that are hungry for attention since they didn't got it the first time they were on or redemption

the ratings will be bad but i think this might be the best season in a while because theres no power dynamic 

Arent the ratings in the toilet anyways?  May as well have bad ratings with random castmembers to see what they can do. I'm sick of the same people controlling the game let others control it for once. Ratings will still be the same, shit. 

Let's hope this people do better with their second chance than some ppl have done with all stars

Charismatic non-champ vets as of the aired WC that need to be on this (in order):

Men:

Kyle, Kelz, Ed, Johnny M, Grant, Cory, Sam, Tony Time, Joss

Honorable Mention: Nathan, Hunter

Women:

Kellyanne, Zara, Nia, Nurys, Latoya, Averey, Colleen, Brooke J

Honorable mention: Justine, Arabella

Would y'all like this second chance cast ? Be honest and I tried to be semi realistic 

^ no 

unless analyse kelz Sam make it far I'm not watching 

I like people are criticizing Tori and even Cara for being someone that would day yes.  That's true of a ton of people. Again, the criticism of people wanting to do something they enjoy is weird.  They also realize once you leave you're easily replaced unless you're Coral.  

Filming a TV show back to back to back to back isn't healthy.

Cara did six seasons in a row and made the final in all but one. That's a long time to be in a competitive environment with little to no downtime.

Tori's been on the last five seasons, did two spin-offs on top of that, and wants to hop on this like she wasn't involved in another spin-off.

Everyone needs a breather, whether they think so or not.

I actually don't hate this.

Do I love it? No. And, some can stay home. But, I understand.

Also who the hell are the two guys under Logan? You ran those through an AI, I have never seen them before lmaoo.

I actually don't hate this.

Do I love it? No. And, some can stay home. But, I understand.

Also who the hell are the two guys under Logan? You ran those through an AI, I have never seen them before lmaoo.

Meechie from DA that was hooking up with Mini Amber and got a drink tossed in his face by Liv ( they didn't air that yawn ) and the one next to him is Renan who was the other first boot with Michaela lmaoooo

The only person Josh has beat in a elimination that should refresh your memory lmaoooo

 

I actually don't hate this.

Do I love it? No. And, some can stay home. But, I understand.

Also who the hell are the two guys under Logan? You ran those through an AI, I have never seen them before lmaoo.

Meechie from DA that was hooking up with Mini Amber and got a drink tossed in his face by Liv ( they didn't air that yawn ) and the one next to him is Renan who was the other first boot with Michaela lmaoooo

I remember Meechie, and after his loss, he fits the theme well and he's bound to give us some hook-up drama.

Whoever is under Renan is who I'm confused by (beard, looks like like a redhead)

Also, I wouldn't mind Liv coming back. I remember Wes saying something about her having her hands in a lot of pots (or whatever he said) before she DQ'd. I don't think that matters much on a season with skulls. But, if she's willing to play some politics, I'm curious to see how that materializes.

Charismatic non-champ vets as of the aired WC that need to be on this (in order):

Men:

Kyle, Kelz, Ed, Johnny M, Grant, Cory, Sam, Tony Time, Joss

Honorable Mention: Nathan, Hunter

Women:

Kellyanne, Zara, Nia, Nurys, Latoya, Averey, Colleen, Brooke J

Honorable mention: Justine, Arabella

Some of the ppl mentioned above left their charisma in their mothers wombs.

 

 

pink is there regulars who wanted to play this season but aren't being cast because of the theme they're trying to go for?

Victoria Dehal as of now

Pathetic and pitiful. Tory doesn't love herself. I fear she will gain more weight not being on a season.

As much as you body shame Tori, I am sure YOU are obese. I refuse to believe otherwise.

Tori on that Cara Maria trajectory...making a bunch of finals back-to-back, losing most of them, and losing her mind in the process,

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