The Challenge: All Stars 4 - Spoilers Discussion

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the show counted it, so them counting Wes's All Star win isn't unprecedented. They count them all so it's really just fan theory for what you personally decide to count.

Well if the show counts it that's all that matters. They make the final say tbh. So cara is a three time champ tied with v & ev 

the show counted it, so them counting Wes's All Star win isn't unprecedented. They count them all so it's really just fan theory for what you personally decide to count.

i'm talking about the main show. the main show has counted all stars and not champs vs pros/stars.

Well if the show counts it that's all that matters. They make the final say tbh. So cara is a three time champ tied with v & ev 

By this logic Devin is a 2 time champ due to his win on 2nd Chances.....that was more competitive than any of the champs vs series

Well if the show counts it that's all that matters. They make the final say tbh. So cara is a three time champ tied with v & ev 

Yeah no chance

 

the show counted it, so them counting Wes's All Star win isn't unprecedented. They count them all so it's really just fan theory for what you personally decide to count.

i'm talking about the main show. the main show has counted all stars and not champs vs pros/stars.

right but i'm pretty sure they do, unless anybody remembers a graphic from CT, Cara or Darrell that had a different number of wins on it. 

Darrell was in fact called a 5x Champ on Dirty 30 lol

 

 

the show counted it, so them counting Wes's All Star win isn't unprecedented. They count them all so it's really just fan theory for what you personally decide to count.

i'm talking about the main show. the main show has counted all stars and not champs vs pros/stars.

right but i'm pretty sure they do, unless anybody remembers a graphic from CT, Cara or Darrell that had a different number of wins on it. 

Darrell was in fact called a 5x Champ on Dirty 30 lol

He called himself that 

Anyways, what are the odds that Veronica didn't get last? Or that she even finished?

 

 

 

the show counted it, so them counting Wes's All Star win isn't unprecedented. They count them all so it's really just fan theory for what you personally decide to count.

i'm talking about the main show. the main show has counted all stars and not champs vs pros/stars.

right but i'm pretty sure they do, unless anybody remembers a graphic from CT, Cara or Darrell that had a different number of wins on it. 

Darrell was in fact called a 5x Champ on Dirty 30 lol

He called himself that 

they've never corrected him or changed it, CT also was allowed to count them during Final Reckoning when talk about how him and Veronica have the most combined wins.

I get what y'all are saying but it opens a can of worms. I remember Wes had a point about how the competion on the spin-off was more extensive and harder than the first 11 seasons of the show.

we can make our own rules but hey maybe they'll put a win counter on Cara in this show since she is returning and they'll want to remind people how's she's done 

Y'all call me annoying for being repetitive but have been having the same debate for years now where no one is changing opinions. Production doesn't know what they count and don't count lol. It's whatever benefits the theme or story they are telling.

Y'all call me annoying for being repetitive but have been having the same debate for years now where no one is changing opinions. Production doesn't know what they count and don't count lol. It's whatever benefits the theme or story they are telling.

the seasons over we can have a side bar conversation. you are not in charge of the website 

V didn't get last apparently Smile

I can't imagine Ace completing an eating portion of a final if he could barely stand to stick his head in a box of bugs for .00000001 seconds on the inferno 1

My prediction for last place is either Nicole's dumb *** or Ace.

So cara is tied with Evelyn and Veronica... what a queen. Those 3 are on another level than everyone else Smile

So cara is tied with Evelyn and Veronica... what a queen. Those 3 are on another level than everyone else

Under these new standards outlined by the challenge constitution of Vevmo, I'm proud of Cara! And she got her third win with her original fresh meat partner Darrell too. Pretty cool tbh 

the seasons over we can have a side bar conversation. you are not in charge of the website 

Discuss whatever you want, just don't call me out when we are in the same boat lol.

Lol that guy is always trying to control the narrative of people's posts. Pot calling the kettle 

 

the seasons over we can have a side bar conversation. you are not in charge of the website 

Discuss whatever you want, just don't call me out when we are in the same boat lol.

I'll call you out whenever I see fit.

 

 

the seasons over we can have a side bar conversation. you are not in charge of the website 

Discuss whatever you want, just don't call me out when we are in the same boat lol.

I'll call you out whenever I see fit.

Fair enough lol.

So cara is tied with Evelyn and Veronica... what a queen. Those 3 are on another level than everyone else

If Laurel did more especially in her prime I'd bet she would have at least 4 or 5. Lol

I count All Stars wins but not Champs Vs wins personally. All Stars has the same level of challenges that the main show has and they're competing for prize money. Champs Vs was way easier and the prize was for charity. But that's just me. 

If tori won all stars you guys wouldn't count all stars Oop 

The only impressive champs vs wins is champs vs pros. The level of competition was higher than any regular challenge or spin-off ever 

If tori won all stars you guys wouldn't count all stars Oop 

You got that right, we certainly would NOT.

I'm just hoping we get some of these faces on 39. I'm so sick of seeing the Vacation alliance.

I'm just hoping we get some of these faces on 39. I'm so sick of seeing the Vacation alliance.

You might get Nicole, Jay, and Cara so if that's what you are looking for, congrats. But you are still getting all the vacation alliance including Josh. 

I hope Ayanna doesn't get edited out of this season The way Flora did Battle of the seasons. That would be such a shame on a season where she reunites with Veronica. I hope we get flashbacks of Veronica copying Ayanna's term paper. 

The only impressive champs vs wins is champs vs pros. The level of competition was higher than any regular challenge or spin-off ever 

fan reaction got Josh ousted from the last season. Hopefully the reaction keeps Tori & Devin off. They aren't needed for the diversity quota like Kaycee is. I don't see why that group is needed for every season. 

 

The only impressive champs vs wins is champs vs pros. The level of competition was higher than any regular challenge or spin-off ever 

fan reaction got Josh ousted from the last season. Hopefully the reaction keeps Tori & Devin off. They aren't needed for the diversity quota like Kaycee is. I don't see why that group is needed for every season. 

They want those 2 as the face of the show.  What reaction is going to change that?   See the ratings for the final

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