Im not a fan of hers regardless of AYTO....but she is an All Star. If having all OGs like AS1 didnt bring the ratings they needed..... Im happy to get this AS4 cast if it means we get Flora, V, Tina, Ayanna together on our screens. Of course I would rather have Genesis, Crazy Julie, Holly S and some of the other OG rumored names..... but come on...be happy we are getting FLORA
This isn't All-Stars either...this was born from WeWantOGs so natuarlly that's what purist want. I don't like the casting of Kam and many others on this but they don't give a damn what I like so I just have to accept she is here. She's not the worst on the cast as far as personalities go.
Im not a fan of hers regardless of AYTO....but she is an All Star. If having all OGs like AS1 didnt bring the ratings they needed..... Im happy to get this AS4 cast if it means we get Flora, V, Tina, Ayanna together on our screens. Of course I would rather have Genesis, Crazy Julie, Holly S and some of the other OG rumored names..... but come on...be happy we are getting FLORA
this reminded me of when ayto first was introduced- it opens the flood gates and it quickly the ruined the show - look at the current casting process in the last six-eight seasons. All I can hope is Kam goes home, if not first, but relatively early. It's a slap in the face to the older fans who finally were getting to see their favs come back. Also a slap in the face to the cast members that made the show successful.
on another note - I don't get why they won't cut production time of the flagship. They can get a good show shot in less time and get more cast members willing to old back to it if it's less filming time and they are treated like prisoners without being able to even use a phone when they want to call home.
I'm kinda excited for Jay lol. With being ridiculed all these years, I feel like he is going to be super messy and go after the top dogs to prove a point.
I'm kinda excited for Jay lol. With being ridiculed all these years, I feel like he is going to be super messy and go after the top dogs to prove a point.
I think there's a lot of people (espeically the males) who are there to prove a point. The cast on paper looks pretty messy strategic wise.
Please, BOTE2 is a top tier season. AYTO didn't hurt the show at all. Editing and the increased prize money is to blame. Besides, The Challenge wouldn't still be around, just like RR and RW, without AYTO being introduced.
I'm kinda excited for Jay lol. With being ridiculed all these years, I feel like he is going to be super messy and go after the top dogs to prove a point.
He's not athletic. I hope the first challenge is a purge and it's eating.
All I gotta say is that I hope an older cast member wins this. I'm ok with most of the cast but I still want an old schooler to ultimately win the whole shebang.
rivals 3 had potential but the fact they didn't bring any sort of replacements made it suck..
Rivals 3 is the only Challenge season I didn't watch live & avoided. I thought I was done with the show so don't know much about that season. Why didn't they bring in replacements? Did they not have any that season? Weren't Nelson & Amanda replacements?
Y'all mad that we want this to differentiate from the main version? That we don't want the same people who should be on the main cast on this? This show is only on because of the OG campaign so to be annoyed that we don't want non RW/RR/FM is stupid. I get that all OGs isn't realistic and there's gonna be a mix of newer RW but in no world should the 4th season have an AYTO person or anyone that should be on the main show who isnt OG (Laurel, Nasty Nicole, Cara, etc). This should be more OG centered but production didn't do that...but if they edit correctly, it's a good format, and Nicole leaves early it has the potential to be extremely entertaining and great tv...just not the OG spinoff I dreamed of.
granted she is more fit for the main show but not everyone can film for three months..
Dylan - this boot list is PERFECT
10000% correct good sir. Love Kam - not on this. That spot should have went to someone else.
All this back and forth over Kam haha
Im not a fan of hers regardless of AYTO....but she is an All Star. If having all OGs like AS1 didnt bring the ratings they needed..... Im happy to get this AS4 cast if it means we get Flora, V, Tina, Ayanna together on our screens. Of course I would rather have Genesis, Crazy Julie, Holly S and some of the other OG rumored names..... but come on...be happy we are getting FLORA
rivals 3 had potential but the fact they didn't bring any sort of replacements made it suck..
This isn't All-Stars either...this was born from WeWantOGs so natuarlly that's what purist want. I don't like the casting of Kam and many others on this but they don't give a damn what I like so I just have to accept she is here. She's not the worst on the cast as far as personalities go.
this reminded me of when ayto first was introduced- it opens the flood gates and it quickly the ruined the show - look at the current casting process in the last six-eight seasons. All I can hope is Kam goes home, if not first, but relatively early. It's a slap in the face to the older fans who finally were getting to see their favs come back. Also a slap in the face to the cast members that made the show successful.
on another note - I don't get why they won't cut production time of the flagship. They can get a good show shot in less time and get more cast members willing to old back to it if it's less filming time and they are treated like prisoners without being able to even use a phone when they want to call home.
Could've , should've , would've , but ultimately DIDNT. Kam is here and y'all will watch.
Psy.... i feel that! I was so mad when AYTO showed up over some of the rumored cast
Im sure Im wrong....but I remember
Darrell/Rachel, Timmy/Susie and Jay/Sahar swirling around. I did enjoy Adam/Britny that season tho
Psy.... i feel that! I was so mad when AYTO showed up over some of the rumored cast
Im sure Im wrong....but I remember
Darrell/Rachel, Timmy/Susie and Jay/Sahar swirling around. I did enjoy Adam/Britny that season tho
I want the intolerables out first like Nicole and Jay and then the debbie downers with no personality out next.
AYTO killed the main show and it's gonna kill this too.
You guys don't make the rules on who qualifies for a show that hasn't been called RW vs Road Rules for 13 years.
Get. Over. It
yall sound deranged and senile
Good one...
lol no it didn't, the editing and behind the scenes stuff did.
I'm kinda excited for Jay lol. With being ridiculed all these years, I feel like he is going to be super messy and go after the top dogs to prove a point.
I think there's a lot of people (espeically the males) who are there to prove a point. The cast on paper looks pretty messy strategic wise.
Please, BOTE2 is a top tier season. AYTO didn't hurt the show at all. Editing and the increased prize money is to blame. Besides, The Challenge wouldn't still be around, just like RR and RW, without AYTO being introduced.
Of course we'll watch but comprehend we want her to lose because she's from AYTO and don't want her cast for that reason
If Kam did the main show again I'd root for her to win unless there was an OG there.
You all sound like you know Kam can't win the main show so you want her on this so she has a chance against older people.
He's not athletic. I hope the first challenge is a purge and it's eating.
All I gotta say is that I hope an older cast member wins this. I'm ok with most of the cast but I still want an old schooler to ultimately win the whole shebang.
Rivals 3 is the only Challenge season I didn't watch live & avoided. I thought I was done with the show so don't know much about that season. Why didn't they bring in replacements? Did they not have any that season? Weren't Nelson & Amanda replacements?
Y'all mad that we want this to differentiate from the main version? That we don't want the same people who should be on the main cast on this? This show is only on because of the OG campaign so to be annoyed that we don't want non RW/RR/FM is stupid. I get that all OGs isn't realistic and there's gonna be a mix of newer RW but in no world should the 4th season have an AYTO person or anyone that should be on the main show who isnt OG (Laurel, Nasty Nicole, Cara, etc). This should be more OG centered but production didn't do that...but if they edit correctly, it's a good format, and Nicole leaves early it has the potential to be extremely entertaining and great tv...just not the OG spinoff I dreamed of.
No way in hell is Kam winning this, so I will be pleased to see her inevitably lose, hopefully to an OG & true all star ☺️
You all have GOT to stop this ridiculously repetitive debate. We know everyone's opinions and it's clear nobody is changing their opinion.
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