The Challenge: All Stars 4 - Spoilers Discussion

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Tony is not that good of a competitor? Why are so many ppl rewriting history as if Tony wasn't one of the biggest flops with popcorn muscles ever. He only made it to a final like once and got lucky winning champs vs stars 

that's more than 80% of the males revealed can say about themselves 

Adam, Brad, Leroy and Kefla would run circles around Tony. Hell even Brandon probably 

Leroy is the only male revealed legit better proven than Tony. have we looked at the cast as it stands lol 

 

 

 

Bringing up the mom thing with V isn't cool

Agree, but if you think this isn't cool maybe check yourself in some other threads...

Nothing I've said in other threads referenced someone losing a child.  I criticize people for their actions. A miscarriage isn't a decision that was made. 

Agreed, not that V hasn't made low blows; Landon, Arissa etc, but waving someone's family in someone else's face, esp someone who has lost as much as V has in the past couple of years, is not cool

Lol I'll believe Flora is there to play the game when I see it. Otherwise I feel like she's there to get that appearance check and hopefully this means someone else from the Miami season is gonna be there. I doubt she would do this without a friend or two.

Adam, Brad, Leroy and Kefla would run circles around Tony. Hell even Brandon probably 

Mind you Brad has competed in modern challenges and we know he stinks.

Adam is literally an unknown as well as a current Brandon who wasn't even good when he was young 

Pink, are we getting Anne from Northern Trail on this?

ugh i want her and Elka sooooo bad <3

It is a HUGE win that John, Jordan, Wes and CT aren't on!

It is a HUGE win that John, Jordan, Wes and CT aren't on!

Adam hasn't appeared on a challenge in how long, who knows what shape he is going to be in. Leroy and Brad have the most recent experience and will have the main men's alliance on lock in the house, whether we like it or not. That includes Tony. Its just a fact.

they really messed up not putting Beth on this cast. Beth vs Tina post punch,  Beth and Flora vs the mean girls, Beth vs jasmine (jonna's bff). The drama we would have had 

and add Julie with her and we would have had a hot mess of greatness with who is already there. 

 

It is a HUGE win that John, Jordan, Wes and CT aren't on!

Yet

Also I'm gonna need Queen V to avoid stairs in the house this season please 

Adam hasn't appeared on a challenge in how long, who knows what shape he is going to be in. Leroy and Brad have the most recent experience and will have the main men's alliance on lock in the house, whether we like it or not. That includes Tony. Its just a fact.

It's not a fact. See Jordan last season.  Who had Yes MJ and Jonna winning. Especially Jonna essentially 3 times for the women.  Tony is hardly a lock 

 

they really messed up not putting Beth on this cast. Beth vs Tina post punch,  Beth and Flora vs the mean girls, Beth vs jasmine (jonna's bff). The drama we would have had 

and add Julie with her and we would have had a hot mess of greatness with who is already there. 

Absolutely! I just didn't mention Julie because production isn't smart enough to realize the good TV they could make. I can see them putting Beth on this because she's already been back for 2 all stars and they actually aired the drama she caused

Leroy is favorite right now. He's not really all that bad at finals.

Tony is dumb but young and fit and good at Daily's 

Cleared Beth, Flora, and her own best friend in less than 280 characters 

LOL Flora is doomed. Did she come on here to be the sacrifice?

Leroy is favorite right now. He's not really all that bad at finals.

Tony is dumb but young and fit and good at Daily's 

He's not good a dailies.  He generally sucks at dailies. 

 

Adam hasn't appeared on a challenge in how long, who knows what shape he is going to be in. Leroy and Brad have the most recent experience and will have the main men's alliance on lock in the house, whether we like it or not. That includes Tony. Its just a fact.

It's not a fact. See Jordan last season.  Who had Yes MJ and Jonna winning. Especially Jonna essentially 3 times for the women.  Tony is hardly a lock 

You actually looked at the men's side right? Unless Landon, Jordan, Yes, or one of the other greats enter the room, that is your main trio making it to the end. Ryan, Derek and Ace will be the first to go. Kefla and Adam will get eliminated in between, and Brandon will be the one to take them all in elimination after being thrown in constantly. You are lying to yourself if you don't believe so.

PR did mention that Flora agreed to this quickly for a reason so I'm still waiting to see what name pops up that's connected to Flora. I'd take Dan or Cynthia for sure!!

 

 

Adam hasn't appeared on a challenge in how long, who knows what shape he is going to be in. Leroy and Brad have the most recent experience and will have the main men's alliance on lock in the house, whether we like it or not. That includes Tony. Its just a fact.

It's not a fact. See Jordan last season.  Who had Yes MJ and Jonna winning. Especially Jonna essentially 3 times for the women.  Tony is hardly a lock 

You actually looked at the men's side right? Unless Landon, Jordan, Yes, or one of the other greats enter the room, that is your main trio making it to the end. Ryan, Derek and Ace will be the first to go. Kefla and Adam will get eliminated in between, and Brandon will be the one to take them all in elimination after being thrown in constantly. You are lying to yourself if you don't believe so.

You keep saying this as though those people suck ignoring how Leroy and Tony have done over the years. Now Yes is "a great" when many thought he'd be an early boot. You don't know the format. You don't know anything other than they're younger and you falsely believe at some point, despite never winning, they're great. 

Leroy is favorite right now. He's not really all that bad at finals.

Tony is dumb but young and fit and good at Daily's 

I think Brad is actually the favorite 

I don't think Leroy can beat Brad in a final as for the women Laurel is obviously the front runner 

 

Leroy is favorite right now. He's not really all that bad at finals.

Tony is dumb but young and fit and good at Daily's 

He's not good a dailies.  He generally sucks at dailies. 

i thought he was good on the spin-off and FR?? 

 

Leroy is favorite right now. He's not really all that bad at finals.

Tony is dumb but young and fit and good at Daily's 

I think Brad is actually the favorite 

Leroy will fling Brad in eliminations, i don't see how Brad makes a final clean. His politics are horrendous 

 

 

Leroy is favorite right now. He's not really all that bad at finals.

Tony is dumb but young and fit and good at Daily's 

He's not good a dailies.  He generally sucks at dailies. 

i thought he was good on the spin-off and FR?? 

Vendettas he was in the troika because of numbers not performance. I don't remember him/John being great during FR. The Champs/whatever doesn't mean anything.  All we know is he can eat and swim. 

 

 

 

Adam hasn't appeared on a challenge in how long, who knows what shape he is going to be in. Leroy and Brad have the most recent experience and will have the main men's alliance on lock in the house, whether we like it or not. That includes Tony. Its just a fact.

It's not a fact. See Jordan last season.  Who had Yes MJ and Jonna winning. Especially Jonna essentially 3 times for the women.  Tony is hardly a lock 

You actually looked at the men's side right? Unless Landon, Jordan, Yes, or one of the other greats enter the room, that is your main trio making it to the end. Ryan, Derek and Ace will be the first to go. Kefla and Adam will get eliminated in between, and Brandon will be the one to take them all in elimination after being thrown in constantly. You are lying to yourself if you don't believe so.

You keep saying this as though those people suck ignoring how Leroy and Tony have done over the years. Now Yes is "a great" when many thought he'd be an early boot. You don't know the format. You don't know anything other than they're younger and you falsely believe at some point, despite never winning, they're great. 

You really believe whatever scenarios goes through your head, don't you? The attention troll at it again. No one has said Tony or Leroy are grade A competitors. I am simply going over who is on the cast right now. They are the best on the male said at this point and will be tied at the hip with Brad. You of all people should know numbers mean everything. You really think these three, no matter how dumb they are, are going to lose to Derek or Ace? Stop playing yourself and quit trolling.

Rachel, Tina, and Veronica will either be targets because obviously they'll be working together closely, or they'll have all the numbers back them at the beginning and only have to worry about Laurel and Janelle.

 

 

 

 

Adam hasn't appeared on a challenge in how long, who knows what shape he is going to be in. Leroy and Brad have the most recent experience and will have the main men's alliance on lock in the house, whether we like it or not. That includes Tony. Its just a fact.

It's not a fact. See Jordan last season.  Who had Yes MJ and Jonna winning. Especially Jonna essentially 3 times for the women.  Tony is hardly a lock 

You actually looked at the men's side right? Unless Landon, Jordan, Yes, or one of the other greats enter the room, that is your main trio making it to the end. Ryan, Derek and Ace will be the first to go. Kefla and Adam will get eliminated in between, and Brandon will be the one to take them all in elimination after being thrown in constantly. You are lying to yourself if you don't believe so.

You keep saying this as though those people suck ignoring how Leroy and Tony have done over the years. Now Yes is "a great" when many thought he'd be an early boot. You don't know the format. You don't know anything other than they're younger and you falsely believe at some point, despite never winning, they're great. 

You really believe whatever scenarios goes through your head, don't you? The attention troll at it again. No one has said Tony or Leroy are grade A competitors. I am simply going over who is on the cast right now. They are the best on the male said at this point and will be tied at the hip with Brad. You of all people should know numbers mean everything. You really think these three, no matter how dumb they are, are going to lose to Derek or Ace? Stop playing yourself and quit trolling.

Give Tony or Leroy a puzzle they lose

There are no locks. Even Laurel isn't a lock. 

Brad's the closest thing and we've seen him fail with Jodi as a partner. 

I feel like Leroy has a better chance against Brad in eliminations than a final

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