Ryan specifically won't kill the show but it's bonehead decisions like this done by casting constantly that will kill it. You have better options who are willing to do the show but you go with someone who doesn't give you anything. Much like Kaycee on the main show.
Ok Shane is difficult. And Dan R.? Is it because he looks too old? I'd take him alone as the only gay rep over both Ryan and Derek. If Dan goes home first he still would provide more in that one episode than the other two would provide their entire stay. Trust and believe that.
Some of y'all faves aren't coming back and that's okay
I don't even like the people I'm arguing for right now lol. It's just basic knowledge to cast them over someone who has proven for years to not have an ounce of personality Or entertainment.
Derek actually gave more personality in his 1 episode than I expected, I think AS2 was his most memorable season tbh. However, I don't need him back. All I remember was about Ryan was that he wore dissolving shorts in the pool. Like why do we need him back?
Yea nothing personal against Derek or Ryan but we don't need them back & so soon. I mean why does casting insist on putting the same people on every season? That's my main gripe. All Derek has ever done is top Marlon & Ryan was always a background character on every season he did. Nice enough guy but he isn't someone you would think is good for tv. But hey these are the same people who keep casting Kaycee so there ya go.
Praying Ashley is on this <33 if production had any sense they'd cast the last authentic female champ who serves actual reality tv, competition, strength, personality, enetartainment and all-roundness. She carried every season she was on.
Praying Ashley is on this <33 if production had any sense they'd cast the last authentic female champ who serves actual reality tv, competition, strength, personality, enetartainment and all-roundness. She carried every season she was on.
We are looking for the OG messy chicks not the wannabes who should be on the main show.
Well you know what, shane is difficult to work with and Derek & Ryan are easy to deal with. Blame shane for being a lunatic
Exactly, its sad and frustating but Shane did that to himself
They are making a tv show. It shouldn't be about who is easy to work with, it should be who is going to make the best product. A background character should at least have a bit of charisma, humor, or athleticism. Ryan has none of that.
I'd rather see Renzi and Shane but I also fully understand why it will be Ryan and Derek. We don't have to like or agree with decisions to understand them. Shane would still be a regular on the mainshow it he didn't intentionally ruin it.
Praying Ashley is on this <33 if production had any sense they'd cast the last authentic female champ who serves actual reality tv, competition, strength, personality, enetartainment and all-roundness. She carried every season she was on.
If you understand why casting Ryan K makes sense you don't understand reality tv.
Id wager to argue that you dont understand reality tv anymore.
While I certainly dont watch it anymore, I do know that MTV/Bunim wants to play it safe. Ryan is a safe, boring character that ticks off several boxes for them. You dont have to like it, but it is what it is. He does whatever production tells him to do and doesnt give them a tough time.
Reality tv is meant to entertain. The reason Bravo shows continue to succeed and this is barely getting renewed is because they understand drama sells. The numbers for all MTV shows have dropped drastically since they cut out drama and prioritized casting bores. Reality tv isn't about casting a submissive bore who is easy to work with. That's stupid logic. Again, Ryan brings zero charisma, charm, athelticism, or humor. He's monotone and dry. You don't put that on tv when you have people with personality.
I completely understand why he's cast as do you. You just want other people.
Don't speak for me. If I understood why he was cast I wouldn't be in here complaining about it. I'll say when I don't like a casting vs not understanding it. Like I get casting John, Wes, or CT even though I hate it. They are OGs who also appeal to the current fanbase. I would 100% put 2 of them on if possible if I was on production.
Well you know what, shane is difficult to work with and Derek & Ryan are easy to deal with. Blame shane for being a lunatic
Exactly, its sad and frustating but Shane did that to himself
They are making a tv show. It shouldn't be about who is easy to work with, it should be who is going to make the best product. A background character should at least have a bit of charisma, humor, or athleticism. Ryan has none of that.
you're wrong I'm sorry. Being easier to deal with gets you far in life even if you aren't the best at it. Being a nightmare no matter how good you are will leave you at home with 0 opportunities it's just how life works.
you're wrong I'm sorry. Being easier to deal with gets you far in life even if you aren't the best at it. Being a nightmare no matter how good you are will leave you at home with 0 opportunities it's just how life works.
I doubt Dan R is that hard to deal with. Shane probably isn't that difficult either. What he said about Skye is 100% true. Production allowed Camilla to use the n word multiple times and kept allowing her back and hid it. They allowed women to be mistreated. They banned Cara for doing what John does. She is likely misogynistic and racist. So he's a terrible person for calling her out on that? Even if you don't cast them, you don't cast Ryan cause he is easy to deal with but brings nothing. This isn't the real world, your analogy is stupid.
I was watching Angelcake Entertainment latest video and he said one of his Patreon subscribers who goes to Leroy's barbershop regularly said his availability closes Jan 6 til end of February. That does line up with filming for this. I know he is on the Do Not Expext list but Pink hasn't made any updates on the list for a while and since then has said things have been changing.
I was watching Angelcake Entertainment latest video and he said one of his Patreon subscribers who goes to Leroy's barbershop regularly said his availability closes Jan 6 til end of February. That does line up with filming for this. I know he is on the Do Not Expext list but Pink hasn't made any updates on the list for a while and since then has said things have been changing.
I know Leroy was pretty adamant about being done but I feel like he would consider All-Stars especially if Brandon is going. Aren't they best friends? The filming time is shorter, there's not the awful Vacation alliance he has to deal with. I know I'm an OG purist but I love Leroy and if they are going to waste some spots on new schoolers, I'd rather him take that spot than many others.
I was watching Angelcake Entertainment latest video and he said one of his Patreon subscribers who goes to Leroy's barbershop regularly said his availability closes Jan 6 til end of February. That does line up with filming for this. I know he is on the Do Not Expext list but Pink hasn't made any updates on the list for a while and since then has said things have been changing.
I know Leroy was pretty adamant about being done but I feel like he would consider All-Stars especially if Brandon is going. Aren't they best friends? The filming time is shorter, there's not the awful Vacation alliance he has to deal with. I know I'm an OG purist but I love Leroy and if they are going to waste some spots on new schoolers, I'd rather him take that spot than many others.
Really...Leroy is who you'll bend the rules for? Girl ig
This.
Well you know what, shane is difficult to work with and Derek & Ryan are easy to deal with. Blame shane for being a lunatic
Ok Shane is difficult. And Dan R.? Is it because he looks too old? I'd take him alone as the only gay rep over both Ryan and Derek. If Dan goes home first he still would provide more in that one episode than the other two would provide their entire stay. Trust and believe that.
Some of y'all faves aren't coming back and that's okay
I don't even like the people I'm arguing for right now lol. It's just basic knowledge to cast them over someone who has proven for years to not have an ounce of personality Or entertainment.
Derek actually gave more personality in his 1 episode than I expected, I think AS2 was his most memorable season tbh. However, I don't need him back. All I remember was about Ryan was that he wore dissolving shorts in the pool. Like why do we need him back?
Yea nothing personal against Derek or Ryan but we don't need them back & so soon. I mean why does casting insist on putting the same people on every season? That's my main gripe. All Derek has ever done is top Marlon & Ryan was always a background character on every season he did. Nice enough guy but he isn't someone you would think is good for tv. But hey these are the same people who keep casting Kaycee so there ya go.
<3 My faves are coming back. I have to believe.
<3
Praying Ashley is on this <33 if production had any sense they'd cast the last authentic female champ who serves actual reality tv, competition, strength, personality, enetartainment and all-roundness. She carried every season she was on.
Exactly, its sad and frustating but Shane did that to himself
We are looking for the OG messy chicks not the wannabes who should be on the main show.
They are making a tv show. It shouldn't be about who is easy to work with, it should be who is going to make the best product. A background character should at least have a bit of charisma, humor, or athleticism. Ryan has none of that.
I'd rather see Renzi and Shane but I also fully understand why it will be Ryan and Derek. We don't have to like or agree with decisions to understand them. Shane would still be a regular on the mainshow it he didn't intentionally ruin it.
If you understand why casting Ryan K makes sense you don't understand reality tv.
I completely understand why he's cast as do you. You just want other people. Same logic with Kaycee. Don't want or need her on but I get it.
Id wager to argue that you dont understand reality tv anymore.
While I certainly dont watch it anymore, I do know that MTV/Bunim wants to play it safe. Ryan is a safe, boring character that ticks off several boxes for them. You dont have to like it, but it is what it is. He does whatever production tells him to do and doesnt give them a tough time.
Reality tv is meant to entertain. The reason Bravo shows continue to succeed and this is barely getting renewed is because they understand drama sells. The numbers for all MTV shows have dropped drastically since they cut out drama and prioritized casting bores. Reality tv isn't about casting a submissive bore who is easy to work with. That's stupid logic. Again, Ryan brings zero charisma, charm, athelticism, or humor. He's monotone and dry. You don't put that on tv when you have people with personality.
Don't speak for me. If I understood why he was cast I wouldn't be in here complaining about it. I'll say when I don't like a casting vs not understanding it. Like I get casting John, Wes, or CT even though I hate it. They are OGs who also appeal to the current fanbase. I would 100% put 2 of them on if possible if I was on production.
you're wrong I'm sorry. Being easier to deal with gets you far in life even if you aren't the best at it. Being a nightmare no matter how good you are will leave you at home with 0 opportunities it's just how life works.
I doubt Dan R is that hard to deal with. Shane probably isn't that difficult either. What he said about Skye is 100% true. Production allowed Camilla to use the n word multiple times and kept allowing her back and hid it. They allowed women to be mistreated. They banned Cara for doing what John does. She is likely misogynistic and racist. So he's a terrible person for calling her out on that? Even if you don't cast them, you don't cast Ryan cause he is easy to deal with but brings nothing. This isn't the real world, your analogy is stupid.
Piggy was born in 1972. Not that she has any interest in returning,but no way they would cast someone that age who wasn't some kind of athlete.
I was watching Angelcake Entertainment latest video and he said one of his Patreon subscribers who goes to Leroy's barbershop regularly said his availability closes Jan 6 til end of February. That does line up with filming for this. I know he is on the Do Not Expext list but Pink hasn't made any updates on the list for a while and since then has said things have been changing.
Ryan and Derek would have a really fun time together as alternates <3 Give them a relaxing paid vacation in South America, they deserve!!
This is exactly what is going on. Casting doesn't get reality tv which is why the show is suffering.
Thats exactly what they need to be, alternates.
I know Leroy was pretty adamant about being done but I feel like he would consider All-Stars especially if Brandon is going. Aren't they best friends? The filming time is shorter, there's not the awful Vacation alliance he has to deal with. I know I'm an OG purist but I love Leroy and if they are going to waste some spots on new schoolers, I'd rather him take that spot than many others.
Really...Leroy is who you'll bend the rules for? Girl ig
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