The oldschool cast were also fake, you guys just like them more lol.
They started the stuff for clout and fake relationships they were the blueprint of it too lol
it's literally just because social media exists in many forms that we even have this nostalgia driven opinion that they were somehow less fake.
You watch an old season like The Gauntlet or one of the Sexes seasons compared to SL&A or Total Madness and they don't even compare. Nostalgia doesn't change that - people like Wes, Paulie, Bear, Fessy, Josh, etc don't come off in the least sincere and it sounds and looks like bad acting imo. Very few things, at least in my opinion, ever seemed fake or planned. Heck even Wes just came off as a normal mysoginist ****** on his first challenge - and you can see him morph at some point into a caricature of what he was. The Miz and Beth are two that you could see them doing things fake for the camera at times - but I'll admit to having a soft spot for Beth so she is and always will be welcomed.
The oldschool cast were also fake, you guys just like them more lol.
They started the stuff for clout and fake relationships they were the blueprint of it too lol
it's literally just because social media exists in many forms that we even have this nostalgia driven opinion that they were somehow less fake.
You watch an old season like The Gauntlet or one of the Sexes seasons compared to SL&A or Total Madness and they don't even compare. Nostalgia doesn't change that - people like Wes, Paulie, Bear, Fessy, Josh, etc don't come off in the least sincere and it sounds and looks like bad acting imo. Very few things, at least in my opinion, ever seemed fake or planned. Heck even Wes just came off as a normal mysoginist ****** on his first challenge - and you can see him morph at some point into a caricature of what he was. The Miz and Beth are two that you could see them doing things fake for the camera at times - but I'll admit to having a soft spot for Beth so she is and always will be welcomed.
Trishelle was always fake--see her and Zack planning a showmance on Seasons. Lots of OGs were fake they were just better at it and because the episodes were shorter it didn't matter as much.
The oldschool cast were also fake, you guys just like them more lol.
They started the stuff for clout and fake relationships they were the blueprint of it too lol
it's literally just because social media exists in many forms that we even have this nostalgia driven opinion that they were somehow less fake.
You watch an old season like The Gauntlet or one of the Sexes seasons compared to SL&A or Total Madness and they don't even compare. Nostalgia doesn't change that - people like Wes, Paulie, Bear, Fessy, Josh, etc don't come off in the least sincere and it sounds and looks like bad acting imo. Very few things, at least in my opinion, ever seemed fake or planned. Heck even Wes just came off as a normal mysoginist ****** on his first challenge - and you can see him morph at some point into a caricature of what he was. The Miz and Beth are two that you could see them doing things fake for the camera at times - but I'll admit to having a soft spot for Beth so she is and always will be welcomed.
Trishelle was always fake--see her and Zack planning a showmance on Seasons. Lots of OGs were fake they were just better at it and because the episodes were shorter it didn't matter as much.
I honestly wished Zack had showmanced Trishelle bc he treated Jonna like shit and Trishelle has more bite than Jonna and would have put him in his place.
But yeah, agreed. The OGs had plenty of camera ******. But also agree they were better about it. The new faces are just.....cringey and try too hard or cringey bc they are literally just dry paint on the wall.
One thing I will give credit for is the OGs did what they did and they didn't backtrack to change peoples opinions of them. They didnt care if the edit made people hate them. Not many people nowadays are comfortable getting a negative edit except for people like ashley and amanda, who dont gaf.
One thing I will give credit for is the OGs did what they did and they didn't backtrack to change peoples opinions of them. They didnt care if the edit made people hate them. Not many people nowadays are comfortable getting a negative edit except for people like ashley and amanda, who dont gaf.
One thing I will give credit for is the OGs did what they did and they didn't backtrack to change peoples opinions of them. They didnt care if the edit made people hate them. Not many people nowadays are comfortable getting a negative edit except for people like ashley and amanda, who dont gaf.
Both of them care--a lot
maybe deep down they do. But I give them credit for embracing the villian edit instead of crying, saying they arent like that, its just an edit. Its annoying. We need people to root against, the kumbaya everyone is friends stuff isn't working.
She won Challenege 2000, Inferno 1, and Gauntlet 1, but she wasn't weak on any those challenges and contributed to the teams doing well. Never top female but was definitely the second best girl on the road rules team on Inferno and Gauntlet.
Lol Veronica was nowhere near second best woman on the road rules team on either season. Inferno 1 it was Holly > Christena > Kendal > Veronica and Gauntlet 1 it was Rachel, Roni and then Veronica.
Honestly in terms of filler character's id rather Ryan than some others, he's harmless
But why someone who adds nothing and we've already seen? I'd rather see a new OG background character. But he isn't even being cast a background character. He is being cast as one of the gay spots. We've been told that Shane and Dan R both accepted the call so it's offensive we get worthless Ryan and Derek over both of them.
Honestly in terms of filler character's id rather Ryan than some others, he's harmless
But why someone who adds nothing and we've already seen? I'd rather see a new OG background character. But he isn't even being cast a background character. He is being cast as one of the gay spots. We've been told that Shane and Dan R both accepted the call so it's offensive we get worthless Ryan and Derek over both of them.
Tell em boo. Ryan and Derek are a disgrace to the lgbtq+ community.
Honestly in terms of filler character's id rather Ryan than some others, he's harmless
But why someone who adds nothing and we've already seen? I'd rather see a new OG background character. But he isn't even being cast a background character. He is being cast as one of the gay spots. We've been told that Shane and Dan R both accepted the call so it's offensive we get worthless Ryan and Derek over both of them.
Ryan's still harmless. We aren't getting nice things.
Honestly in terms of filler character's id rather Ryan than some others, he's harmless
But why someone who adds nothing and we've already seen? I'd rather see a new OG background character. But he isn't even being cast a background character. He is being cast as one of the gay spots. We've been told that Shane and Dan R both accepted the call so it's offensive we get worthless Ryan and Derek over both of them.
oh i agree, but i also really dont care about the mens side much at all, im not gonna lose any sleep over ryan being on, im still gonna hold out for shane until PR says he is a no
One thing I will give credit for is the OGs did what they did and they didn't backtrack to change peoples opinions of them. They didnt care if the edit made people hate them. Not many people nowadays are comfortable getting a negative edit except for people like ashley and amanda, who dont gaf.
Both of them care--a lot
maybe deep down they do. But I give them credit for embracing the villian edit instead of crying, saying they arent like that, its just an edit. Its annoying. We need people to root against, the kumbaya everyone is friends stuff isn't working.
I don't think Amanda sees herself as the villain. Not sure Ashley does either--she even believes (and was) respected for stealing money from Hunter. Everyone's the hero of their own story.
time for yall to realize and accept what all stars is and what the cast will look like 90% of the time. at this point after 3 seasons, its your own faults if you cry about the cast.
its gonna be mostly the same. just like the other challenge shows
time for yall to realize and accept what all stars is and what the cast will look like 90% of the time. at this point after 3 seasons, its your own faults if you cry about the cast.
its gonna be mostly the same. just like the other challenge shows
I think most of us accept that--isn't it only really OS complaining about casting people repeatedly? We know how this works.
it's literally just because social media exists in many forms that we even have this nostalgia driven opinion that they were somehow less fake.
Lol at anyone trying to think the OGs were anywhere near as fake as todays losers.
You watch an old season like The Gauntlet or one of the Sexes seasons compared to SL&A or Total Madness and they don't even compare. Nostalgia doesn't change that - people like Wes, Paulie, Bear, Fessy, Josh, etc don't come off in the least sincere and it sounds and looks like bad acting imo. Very few things, at least in my opinion, ever seemed fake or planned. Heck even Wes just came off as a normal mysoginist ****** on his first challenge - and you can see him morph at some point into a caricature of what he was. The Miz and Beth are two that you could see them doing things fake for the camera at times - but I'll admit to having a soft spot for Beth so she is and always will be welcomed.
Can't believe Shane is ignored but Ryan is a lock. Him being so boring makes me dislike him even more.
A useless gay man who won't last 4 episodes, this really is like the old days.
Trishelle was always fake--see her and Zack planning a showmance on Seasons. Lots of OGs were fake they were just better at it and because the episodes were shorter it didn't matter as much.
i'm not reading all that, you and OS are correct and right about whatever it is you are talking about.
I honestly wished Zack had showmanced Trishelle bc he treated Jonna like shit and Trishelle has more bite than Jonna and would have put him in his place.
But yeah, agreed. The OGs had plenty of camera ******. But also agree they were better about it. The new faces are just.....cringey and try too hard or cringey bc they are literally just dry paint on the wall.
Ryan is perfectly fine
Good lord. They are hellbent on killing this show aren't they?
Come on--Ryan can't "kill" the show. He's a likely early boot that will at least try to play a strategic game. Kind of like Jasmine.
Could they cast better people than them? Yeah, sure, they could but those casting (filling quotas) aren't what will make or break AS4
One thing I will give credit for is the OGs did what they did and they didn't backtrack to change peoples opinions of them. They didnt care if the edit made people hate them. Not many people nowadays are comfortable getting a negative edit except for people like ashley and amanda, who dont gaf.
Both of them care--a lot
No.
maybe deep down they do. But I give them credit for embracing the villian edit instead of crying, saying they arent like that, its just an edit. Its annoying. We need people to root against, the kumbaya everyone is friends stuff isn't working.
I literally can't remember a single thing about Ryan from All Stars 2. At least Sophia's *** had the hair drama
Honestly in terms of filler character's id rather Ryan than some others, he's harmless
Now his ex boyfriend KING shane better be on that damn plane
Don't you know about Skye Topic's two gay men limit on every season?
true i heard its because she is homophobic and scared of the house turning into the mens steam room at a barry's bootcamp ☕️
Lol Veronica was nowhere near second best woman on the road rules team on either season. Inferno 1 it was Holly > Christena > Kendal > Veronica and Gauntlet 1 it was Rachel, Roni and then Veronica.
But why someone who adds nothing and we've already seen? I'd rather see a new OG background character. But he isn't even being cast a background character. He is being cast as one of the gay spots. We've been told that Shane and Dan R both accepted the call so it's offensive we get worthless Ryan and Derek over both of them.
Tell em boo. Ryan and Derek are a disgrace to the lgbtq+ community.
Ryan's still harmless. We aren't getting nice things.
oh i agree, but i also really dont care about the mens side much at all, im not gonna lose any sleep over ryan being on, im still gonna hold out for shane until PR says he is a no
I don't think Amanda sees herself as the villain. Not sure Ashley does either--she even believes (and was) respected for stealing money from Hunter. Everyone's the hero of their own story.
time for yall to realize and accept what all stars is and what the cast will look like 90% of the time. at this point after 3 seasons, its your own faults if you cry about the cast.
its gonna be mostly the same. just like the other challenge shows
No one is claiming he isn't harmless. He's a waste of casting and stealing a spot. That's worth being pissed about.
I think most of us accept that--isn't it only really OS complaining about casting people repeatedly? We know how this works.
And I'll keep complaining about every clear poor decision.
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