The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies - Josh Martinez

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Did this bottom come out yet

A Josh-free season. *applauds* I honestly didn't think they would do it. They didn't even force him on us as Kaycee's ride or die. I love it. 

 

 

G*y

Josh isn't gay, he is an ally.

He literally isn't though. He had an epic meltdown and had Ashley kicked off for calling him gay because he finds it so disgusting. That is legit homophobia. Everyone just ignores that.

not wanting to be labeled as gay is homophobic? lol. yall gotta go outside

 

 

G*y

Josh isn't gay, he is an ally.

He literally isn't though. He had an epic meltdown and had Ashley kicked off for calling him gay because he finds it so disgusting. That is legit homophobia. Everyone just ignores that.

literally. If he doesn't have a problem with it then why was it such a big deal for him to be called gay?

Exactly. straight men laugh if someone calls them gay, because theyre secure enough in their sexuality to know its not true. Why Josh get so offended over it? 

not wanting to be labeled as gay is homophobic? lol. yall gotta go outside

Correct. You only have a freakout over being called something if you think that is a bad thing. It's a fairly simple concept to understand.

thats ... not how life works. idk when it became a golden rule that if something isnt true, then you shouldnt be mad. If someone lies on you or disrespects your character you have 100% a right to be upset. Josh being on reality tv doesnt erase the deep homophobia in the brown and black community that would lead to him not wanting to be labeled as such. Yes you can be secure in your sexuality and not care, but not everyone will be like that?

I don't get how calling you homosexual is disrespecting your character? I guess we just see it different. If you call me something that isn't true and doesn't defame my character, I'm laughing it off. If he wasn't gay or homophobic he wouldn't have had a meltdown and I stand by that opinion.

Knowing Ashley I imagine that's not where it ended. I have a hard time believing all Ashley did was call that boy gay 

I cant remember- did we ever come to a conclusion if they hooked up? Or attempted to? Or was that Bettina? Or Esther? Wasnt there two girls? These seasons all run together at this point so I cant keep them straight, especially since production was hiding all the hookups.

 This is completely hypothetical but maybe they almost hooked up, he couldnt get hard, and thats when she called him gay. 

 This is completely hypothetical but maybe they almost hooked up, he couldnt get hard, and thats when she called him gay. 

bahahaha I can totally see that ****

Big Brother people, but especially him, are the worst thing to happen to The Challenge. I can't stand the big baby and his pouty way of talking. And the way he thinks he protects and carries people through the game. Not to mention the hissy fits.

Him, Fessy and Kaycee can sod off. I like Amber though, bit sulky like all of them. Except Kaycee who I don't recall talking. 

Did Josh used to be in love with Paulie?

Why do people think josh is gay? Smile

Why do people think josh is gay?

because he's effeminate.

Josh is probably bi, but I think he actually believes he is straight. I don't think he's gay and hiding it, I think he might just be in denial. Some deep repression going on most likely, probably due to his upbringing. Sometimes everyone else sees the obvious about you before you do. I do agree with the person who said Ashley was probably extra and talked about more than just him being gay lol. I can only imagine where her creative roasts took her with this one.

Josh is probably bi, but I think he actually believes he is straight. I don't think he's gay and hiding it, I think he might just be in denial. Some deep repression going on most likely, probably due to his upbringing. Sometimes everyone else sees the obvious about you before you do. I do agree with the person who said Ashley was probably extra and talked about more than just him being gay lol. I can only imagine where her creative roasts took her with this one.

What was the Ashley's rant? Is she banned from it now? What was so bad to get her chucked off when people like Camilla weren't? Did Josh maybe just kick up more of a fuss like he has before?

Why do people think josh is gay?

Idk.

 

Josh is probably bi, but I think he actually believes he is straight. I don't think he's gay and hiding it, I think he might just be in denial. Some deep repression going on most likely, probably due to his upbringing. Sometimes everyone else sees the obvious about you before you do. I do agree with the person who said Ashley was probably extra and talked about more than just him being gay lol. I can only imagine where her creative roasts took her with this one.

What was the Ashley's rant? Is she banned from it now? What was so bad to get her chucked off when people like Camilla weren't? Did Josh maybe just kick up more of a fuss like he has before?

I'm thinking the female producer was in love with Josh and was upset at how anyone could insinuate him being anything other than straight. Ashley probably broke the producer's heart and made her life turn Cloudy.

Why do people think josh is gay?

Because he obviously is...watch the awkwardness when he pretends to flirt with women. It's an act 

Didn't Ashley hook up with Josh?  Why am I asking I know she did. I couldn't believe it. But of course it wasn't aired. That's what made the whole situation even more strange with those two and her getting removed. Those Big Brother people are the worst they also ran whining to production about Lolo & got her removed too. 

Maybe Josh moaned out a man's name during *** with Ashley?

Nah I still maintain he couldnt get hard lol

 

not wanting to be labeled as gay is homophobic? lol. yall gotta go outside

Correct. You only have a freakout over being called something if you think that is a bad thing. It's a fairly simple concept to understand.

right. and even if he was mad.. to take it to the extreme to get her kicked off the show is beyond insane and clearly shows his homophobia

Nah I still maintain he couldnt get hard lol

I agree, my guess is that went something like this. "Everyone knows you're gay Josh! You couldn't get it up with me or when Esther tried to suck you off in the bathroom. Just come out so you can get off with Devon and be less of a little *****".

 

Nah I still maintain he couldnt get hard lol

I agree, my guess is that went something like this. "Everyone knows you're gay Josh! You couldn't get it up with me or when Esther tried to suck you off in the bathroom. Just come out so you can get off with Devon and be less of a little *****".

Way classier that what she'd say..."you limp **** ******" sounds more like her followed by she could own his family. 

Kinda missing her

Amanda said Josh and Ashley were hooking up so it was weird for what ended up happening happened.

Maybe Josh thought they were onto him about the wet dreams he was having of TJ.

Y'all remember on total madness when Aneesa had her fingers all in Josh booty 

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