I don't care what none of these people do in their real life. Stop this banning shit. Bring 'em all back, Dee, Camila, Bear, Kenny, Evan, etc. just cast people who will have their foots on their necks.
Dee is the only one from this list that I would like to come back. She was coming into her own on the show and was becoming almost like a modern day Beth but who could actually compete, really well.
The rest (Camila, Kenny, Evan) have done things while ON the show that I think will keep them gone forever and ever. Not comparable to Dee in all honesty.
I do wish Tonya would come back for a redemption story though. But **** Kenny and Evan. I wonder if the crew member Camila punched still works for BMP.
Bear sexually exploited another contestant, yes it was off the show (I guess I'll give him that), but I'm much more interested in Georgia coming back for her redemption arc over him. He'll be in jail in the meantime anyway so...
so in summary: Yes to Dee. Tonya > Kenny, Evan forever. Georgia > Bear.
So all these years later we're still pretending the version Tonya was told was accurate and everyone else is lying? Including good friends of hers like Katie?
Idk what you're referring to because I never allowed myself to get too invested in that situation. Are you saying Tonya was lying?
Tonya admittedly doesn't know what happened so, no, she's not lying. You can't lie if you don't know. The issue is she believes the one person who says something occurred despite everyone else that was there at the time all stating it wasn't true. Including the three people she was closest with.
Georgia doing black face isn't worse than anything Jordan has done imo.
Has Georgia even issued an apology for it? Or done anything to make reparations for what she has done? Bc if not, that girl is just as guilty as Jordan. At Jordan apologized and has been doing volunteer work outside of the challenge.
Glad she won her case, but she's not getting a pass on the blackface thing.
Let's not pretend doing charity/volunteer work is redepmtion or makes someone a good person;. Many awful human beings do charity/volunteer work because it plays to their egos. That's Jordan.
I don't care what none of these people do in their real life. Stop this banning shit. Bring 'em all back, Dee, Camila, Bear, Kenny, Evan, etc. just cast people who will have their foots on their necks.
Dee is the only one from this list that I would like to come back. She was coming into her own on the show and was becoming almost like a modern day Beth but who could actually compete, really well.
The rest (Camila, Kenny, Evan) have done things while ON the show that I think will keep them gone forever and ever. Not comparable to Dee in all honesty.
I do wish Tonya would come back for a redemption story though. But **** Kenny and Evan. I wonder if the crew member Camila punched still works for BMP.
Bear sexually exploited another contestant, yes it was off the show (I guess I'll give him that), but I'm much more interested in Georgia coming back for her redemption arc over him. He'll be in jail in the meantime anyway so...
so in summary: Yes to Dee. Tonya > Kenny, Evan forever. Georgia > Bear.
So all these years later we're still pretending the version Tonya was told was accurate and everyone else is lying? Including good friends of hers like Katie?
Idk what you're referring to because I never allowed myself to get too invested in that situation. Are you saying Tonya was lying?
Tonya admittedly doesn't know what happened so, no, she's not lying. You can't lie if you don't know. The issue is she believes the one person who says something occurred despite everyone else that was there at the time all stating it wasn't true. Including the three people she was closest with.
what's not helping is the footage that show Evan and Kenny picking on Tony's when she is screaming please stop. In general, Evan and Kenny were at their worst behavior on the Ruins.
Georgia doing black face isn't worse than anything Jordan has done imo.
Has Georgia even issued an apology for it? Or done anything to make reparations for what she has done? Bc if not, that girl is just as guilty as Jordan. At Jordan apologized and has been doing volunteer work outside of the challenge.
Glad she won her case, but she's not getting a pass on the blackface thing.
Let's not pretend doing charity/volunteer work is redepmtion or makes someone a good person;. Many awful human beings do charity/volunteer work because it plays to their egos. That's Jordan.
It doesn't necessarily prove he is a good person, but it is more than what Georgia has done that I have seen. Now if someone can show receipts proving me wrong, than cool.
I don't care what none of these people do in their real life. Stop this banning shit. Bring 'em all back, Dee, Camila, Bear, Kenny, Evan, etc. just cast people who will have their foots on their necks.
Dee is the only one from this list that I would like to come back. She was coming into her own on the show and was becoming almost like a modern day Beth but who could actually compete, really well.
The rest (Camila, Kenny, Evan) have done things while ON the show that I think will keep them gone forever and ever. Not comparable to Dee in all honesty.
I do wish Tonya would come back for a redemption story though. But **** Kenny and Evan. I wonder if the crew member Camila punched still works for BMP.
Bear sexually exploited another contestant, yes it was off the show (I guess I'll give him that), but I'm much more interested in Georgia coming back for her redemption arc over him. He'll be in jail in the meantime anyway so...
so in summary: Yes to Dee. Tonya > Kenny, Evan forever. Georgia > Bear.
So all these years later we're still pretending the version Tonya was told was accurate and everyone else is lying? Including good friends of hers like Katie?
Idk what you're referring to because I never allowed myself to get too invested in that situation. Are you saying Tonya was lying?
Tonya admittedly doesn't know what happened so, no, she's not lying. You can't lie if you don't know. The issue is she believes the one person who says something occurred despite everyone else that was there at the time all stating it wasn't true. Including the three people she was closest with.
what's not helping is the footage that show Evan and Kenny picking on Tony's when she is screaming please stop. In general, Evan and Kenny were at their worst behavior on the Ruins.
We doesn't make them rapists. And watch the show again back then. It wasn't unusual behavior even during the golden era.
Georgia doing black face isn't worse than anything Jordan has done imo.
Has Georgia even issued an apology for it? Or done anything to make reparations for what she has done? Bc if not, that girl is just as guilty as Jordan. At Jordan apologized and has been doing volunteer work outside of the challenge.
Glad she won her case, but she's not getting a pass on the blackface thing.
Let's not pretend doing charity/volunteer work is redepmtion or makes someone a good person;. Many awful human beings do charity/volunteer work because it plays to their egos. That's Jordan.
It doesn't necessarily prove he is a good person, but it is more than what Georgia has done that I have seen. Now if someone can show receipts proving me wrong, than cool.
It literally means nothing. It's not more or less. It's irrelevant for redemption.
The show should have continued to cast internationals after 2004/2005.
they sure should have! I needed my girl BELOU to replace my other girl JO after her fierce and abrupt exit from the gauntlet 2. She could've been on the rookies team since she had only done one season before. She also could've replaced Tina on the Duel after punching Beth ya know. Shame they weren't willing to fly my dawg out from Amsterdam, yo.
The show is not going to be around long enough for Horacio to be the next big thing lol
why you say that. It definitely is I've changed my tuned about that. Ratings have dropped 500k but its still their highest rated show. Plus what other content do they have on mtv besides ridiculousness. Mtv has like 3 or 4 shows in its entire roster. The challenge will be here for the next 10 years.
Honestly, back during the golden era if you would've told me only one female challenger would still be doing challenges in the 2020s, I would've never guessed Aneesa. She was such a minor supporting character her first couple of seasons
I don't think Horacio is all that, I mean I like him but meh. Does he need to become a regular? Not really imo. He seems sweet but ultimately makes for bland tv, cuz that's just his personality
Tonya admittedly doesn't know what happened so, no, she's not lying. You can't lie if you don't know. The issue is she believes the one person who says something occurred despite everyone else that was there at the time all stating it wasn't true. Including the three people she was closest with.
Let's not pretend doing charity/volunteer work is redepmtion or makes someone a good person;. Many awful human beings do charity/volunteer work because it plays to their egos. That's Jordan.
what's not helping is the footage that show Evan and Kenny picking on Tony's when she is screaming please stop. In general, Evan and Kenny were at their worst behavior on the Ruins.
It doesn't necessarily prove he is a good person, but it is more than what Georgia has done that I have seen. Now if someone can show receipts proving me wrong, than cool.
We doesn't make them rapists. And watch the show again back then. It wasn't unusual behavior even during the golden era.
It literally means nothing. It's not more or less. It's irrelevant for redemption.
Lolo jones was the only older white lady that has looked amazing for her age
The show should have continued to cast internationals after 2004/2005.
her being half black might help with that lol. her father is/was african american from what i can recall
they sure should have! I needed my girl BELOU to replace my other girl JO after her fierce and abrupt exit from the gauntlet 2. She could've been on the rookies team since she had only done one season before. She also could've replaced Tina on the Duel after punching Beth ya know. Shame they weren't willing to fly my dawg out from Amsterdam, yo.
Jo Rhodes is so Legendary!!
I am obsessed with Horacio. Idk if he's popular or not but he's the next best thing in the challenge. I'll die on this hill.
The show is not going to be around long enough for Horacio to be the next big thing lol
why you say that. It definitely is I've changed my tuned about that. Ratings have dropped 500k but its still their highest rated show. Plus what other content do they have on mtv besides ridiculousness. Mtv has like 3 or 4 shows in its entire roster. The challenge will be here for the next 10 years.
The main show will have CT, bananas, wes, aneesa in their 50's competing with 20 year old rookies in 2030's
Honestly, back during the golden era if you would've told me only one female challenger would still be doing challenges in the 2020s, I would've never guessed Aneesa. She was such a minor supporting character her first couple of seasons
Aneesa can actually win a challenge if she stopped being lazy and dropped the 100 pounds... I dont know what nany's excuse is
Why you choosing to crush my dreams today sir?
The scream i scrumpt
Laurel is just as unlikeable and miserable as cara... are we going to keep it real today!
I miss when they did challenges in jeans.
I rarely like their uniforms. Ugly *** designs n shit.
LOL i buy everything under armor so my basic self likes it
I wouldn't mind them for working out lol but I just don't like them on the show!
Unless MTV ceases to exist you're wrong. The ratings are amazing for MTV
Bring back ashley and cara pleaseee
I don't think Horacio is all that, I mean I like him but meh. Does he need to become a regular? Not really imo. He seems sweet but ultimately makes for bland tv, cuz that's just his personality
was the jek era worse, the same or better than the vacation alliance era/vets now?
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