but yeah lemme shutup before i get called sensitive or fake woke or whatever he be saying. like konquere said i dont even watch this trash *** show but smh.
I've never said anything racist. I made a completely stupid comment trying to fit in once. I've apologized and recognized how it was wrong. I never spoke in a stereotypical way or did it as a pass to say certain things. It's ridiculous that I can't have an open discussion about the topic here. I am not trying to discredit or argue. I'm respectfully talking about it as an open discussion. That is the issue with the internet you can't respectfully discuss things. Everyone just wants to attack and accuse if you don't agree 100%.
I am agreeing that there is clearly microaggressions with what they are saying about her exploding post nominations. With some of them I am sure there are subconscious biases unfortunately. I think she is introverted when outside of her comfort zone and she is beautiful. So when she came in quiet I think people mistook her for being rude and *****y. She should have made more efforts with the girls. She was targeted the same reason as Michael and Terrance, because she was standoffish. They are talking trash, I just don't think that's anything worse than what we have seen before. They constantly ate Whitney alive last season behind her back and it was never a big issue.
I've never said anything racist. I made a completely stupid comment trying to fit in once. I've apologized and recognized how it was wrong. I never spoke in a stereotypical way or did it as a pass to say certain things. It's ridiculous that I can't have an open discussion about the topic here. I am not trying to discredit or argue. I'm respectfully talking about it as an open discussion. That is the issue with the internet you can't respectfully discuss things. Everyone just wants to attack and accuse if you don't agree 100%.
What's your discord. Let's have an open discussion. Certain things can't be discussed or said on this site.
Taylor doesn't even really seem like a big brother player she doesn't really do anything. she's very attractive but it begins and ends there.
there's not a real reason to be super pro her or against her. she's pretty bland all things considered
This. Also it's week one, I'm just going up for her because what they are doing to her is wrong. Regardless of if she's boring or entertaining and we all know where it stems from. Big Brother, cast and production, doesn't want to see black people succeed. They hand picked that BB23 cast to finally get black people to shut up, now it's back to the basics.
I am agreeing that there is clearly microaggressions with what they are saying about her exploding post nominations. With some of them I am sure there are subconscious biases unfortunately. I think she is introverted when outside of her comfort zone and she is beautiful. So when she came in quiet I think people mistook her for being rude and *****y. She should have made more efforts with the girls. She was targeted the same reason as Michael and Terrance, because she was standoffish. They are talking trash, I just don't think that's anything worse than what we have seen before. They constantly ate Whitney alive last season behind her back and it was never a big issue.
Are you mentally challenged? They weren't creating false scenarios in their heads , nor creating fake conversations that were never had to bash Whitney's name. They weren't using any microaggressions, they weren't saying stupid shit like "just looking at her I knew it was going to be a problem" given NOTHING to go based off of. You're an idiot, like I said. Drop a discord link if you want a conversation.
Taylor was definitely a target of mainly Paloma and Alyssa from day 1. Feeds started 3 hours after the live premiere and it started immediately how they can't stand her and they have to team up so she doesn't get all the attention from the guys etc. I didn't watch past that night but from I've read after that the those two girls built up an army against Taylor immediately and it didn't help Taylor played pool in her swim suit (like the guys were doing too) while the rest of the ugly girls were in the swimming pool staring in jealousy. I don't think I've seen too many micro aggressions but I have seen random clips of black/white talk today from Paloma and others with no context and then saying the "I don't see color" thing sksk.
However I did start to think deeper. Why is it so easy for the house to turn on a black contestants? It takes one person to flip the entire house on them instantly with ZERO pushback. How often have we seen a black houseguest be the most safe, be invited to multiple alliances, and be able to play aggressively from the jump without being an immediate target for it? Ika from bbcan? I don't think it's a coincidence. When you're black you stand out. When you're a muscular black male you're an immediate target hence why it took the cookout to be the first black men to make jury since that dude from bb10.
I used to complain about black women always be typecast to BE an outcast when Grodner took over. Why are they always the older Mom? Or the only overweight person? Outside of outliar China/Natalie/Monet on 11 and 12. It was like Kalia/Jodi/Da'vonne/Jameka/Jocasta we're cast strictly to go home early.
I don't count Chima/Natalie they had a super diverse cast to back then up. So starting with Monet the first black girl that was young, fit, not a mom. Had no reason to be an outliar. Boom out 2nd. Candice.... Dominique....
Idk where I'm going with this but they're ****** if they do play hard (Da'vonne, Bayleigh, Dominique)
****** if they dont play at all (Zakiyah, Monet)
****** for simply existing (Candice, Taylor)
You will never see a black woman be used as a Victoria/Brittany dragged to the end. They always become a target because it's a assumed they'll go off, or they won't listen, etc. This show just ain't meant to black folks unless they pull a cook out. Black folks can do well on survivor because they're just one vote like everybody else, no fear of them winning power and flipping the game on their big non black alliance formed every season
I do agree that Grodner and company is racist. They've proved it for years and gotten away with it. It looks like Joseph, Alyssa, and Nicole are realizing that Taylor is just misunderstood and not a bad person. I really hope that maybe they can turn things around. A lot of time the early target goes on to do well. It's still early!
Monte and Ameerah will still do fine enough, i see this season going a trajectory where the Mamba faction all makes jury. there's two big all guy and girls alliances so the evenly gender split Mamba should maintain drivers seat.
Monte, Ameerah, Paloma, Alyssa, Kyle, Michael...i think your winner is in there
Are you mentally challenged? They weren't creating false scenarios in their heads , nor creating fake conversations that were never had to bash Whitney's name. They weren't using any microaggressions, they weren't saying stupid shit like "just looking at her I knew it was going to be a problem" given NOTHING to go based off of. You're an idiot, like I said. Drop a discord link if you want a conversation.
I sent a DM, I don't have discord. I'm really sorry if I'm not articulating my opinions well. They did do a lot of that with Whitney and Shanna (minus the microaggressions) though.
Are you mentally challenged? They weren't creating false scenarios in their heads , nor creating fake conversations that were never had to bash Whitney's name. They weren't using any microaggressions, they weren't saying stupid shit like "just looking at her I knew it was going to be a problem" given NOTHING to go based off of. You're an idiot, like I said. Drop a discord link if you want a conversation.
I sent a DM, I don't have discord. I'm really sorry if I'm not articulating my opinions well. They did do a lot of that with Whitney and Shanna (minus the microaggressions) though.
Like what. Please give me examples of what they were saying about Whitney.
I've never said anything racist. I made a completely stupid comment trying to fit in once. I've apologized and recognized how it was wrong. I never spoke in a stereotypical way or did it as a pass to say certain things. It's ridiculous that I can't have an open discussion about the topic here. I am not trying to discredit or argue. I'm respectfully talking about it as an open discussion. That is the issue with the internet you can't respectfully discuss things. Everyone just wants to attack and accuse if you don't agree 100%.
why are you making this about you.
honestly yall get these type of responses because why do black people still have to educate and have these conversations with yall for yall to understand. No one feels like making yall see the world like we do because yall just invalidate it, which you have done countless times. You claim youre here to "discuss" but youre the first person to write someone off and call them "sensitive" or "fake woke" when they say their thoughts.
Like what. Please give me examples of what they were saying about Whitney.
They were constantly slut-shaming her over the clothes, calling her names, I believe they even attacked her as a mom. They made up her flirting with Xavier as a reason to target her. They always had her name in her mouth. Pretty and confident women are always talked about. However, like I keep saying they did throw in some microagressions about Taylor so that changes thing but the "mean girl" mentality has always been part of the show.
honestly yall get these type of responses because why do black people still have to educate and have these conversations with yall for yall to understand. No one feels like making yall see the world like we do because yall just invalidate it, which you have done countless times. You claim youre here to "discuss" but youre the first person to write someone off and call them "sensitive" or "fake woke" when they say their thoughts.
I didn't make this about me. Two back to back post brought that up and I responded. I'm not asking to be educated, I just may have missed stuff since I don't watch the feeds. In my personal life I like to have open discussions about everything because I think talking about things helps you see or at least understand a different perspective. I get I don't have a great reputation here and this place doesn't know my character so I totally get how it comes off the wrong way. I'm not trying to invalidate anything and if that is how it comes off I genuinely apologize. I just don't think or at least I really hope that the reason she is being targeted and attacked has to do with her race. Maybe I wrong though and should shut-up. The only time I call the fake woke out is when people pretend to care about racism or bigotry for a personal attack and when it's not genuine, which is generally always white people. You are a black person and have experienced things I never will and you have a perspective that I respect which is why I sent a dm. Obviously my intentions are coming off wrong though and I don't ever want to seem like I am discrediting racism so I will shut up on the matter. I sincerely apologize, my articulation on the matter was poor and my intent came off the wrong way.
The only time I call the fake woke out is when people pretend to care about racism or bigotry for a personal attack and when it's not genuine, which is generally always white people.
except the times when you did it to me and never brought a single receipt to the table, just called me a "white savior" just because.
The only time I call the fake woke out is when people pretend to care about racism or bigotry for a personal attack and when it's not genuine, which is generally always white people.
except the times when you did it to me and never brought a single receipt to the table, just called me a "white savior" just because.
No you definitely had 2 comments. I wasn't going through 5000 post to prove a point though lol.
Taylor was definitely a target of mainly Paloma and Alyssa from day 1. Feeds started 3 hours after the live premiere and it started immediately how they can't stand her and they have to team up so she doesn't get all the attention from the guys etc. I didn't watch past that night but from I've read after that the those two girls built up an army against Taylor immediately and it didn't help Taylor played pool in her swim suit (like the guys were doing too) while the rest of the ugly girls were in the swimming pool staring in jealousy. I don't think I've seen too many micro aggressions but I have seen random clips of black/white talk today from Paloma and others with no context and then saying the "I don't see color" thing sksk.
However I did start to think deeper. Why is it so easy for the house to turn on a black contestants? It takes one person to flip the entire house on them instantly with ZERO pushback. How often have we seen a black houseguest be the most safe, be invited to multiple alliances, and be able to play aggressively from the jump without being an immediate target for it? Ika from bbcan? I don't think it's a coincidence. When you're black you stand out. When you're a muscular black male you're an immediate target hence why it took the cookout to be the first black men to make jury since that dude from bb10.
I used to complain about black women always be typecast to BE an outcast when Grodner took over. Why are they always the older Mom? Or the only overweight person? Outside of outliar China/Natalie/Monet on 11 and 12. It was like Kalia/Jodi/Da'vonne/Jameka/Jocasta we're cast strictly to go home early.
I don't count Chima/Natalie they had a super diverse cast to back then up. So starting with Monet the first black girl that was young, fit, not a mom. Had no reason to be an outliar. Boom out 2nd. Candice.... Dominique....
Idk where I'm going with this but they're ****** if they do play hard (Da'vonne, Bayleigh, Dominique)
****** if they dont play at all (Zakiyah, Monet)
****** for simply existing (Candice, Taylor)
You will never see a black woman be used as a Victoria/Brittany dragged to the end. They always become a target because it's a assumed they'll go off, or they won't listen, etc. This show just ain't meant to black folks unless they pull a cook out. Black folks can do well on survivor because they're just one vote like everybody else, no fear of them winning power and flipping the game on their big non black alliance formed every season
hmmm maybe there is hope for you lmaooooo this post was cute and I do agree.
The only time I call the fake woke out is when people pretend to care about racism or bigotry for a personal attack and when it's not genuine, which is generally always white people.
except the times when you did it to me and never brought a single receipt to the table, just called me a "white savior" just because.
No you definitely had 2 comments. I wasn't going through 5000 post to prove a point though lol.
i didn't and you had no point, that's just who you are and you panic when proven wrong. paraphrase what i said because you saying that and having nothing to back it up just shows you to be just as weird as everybody in here is already saying
Taylor was definitely a target of mainly Paloma and Alyssa from day 1. Feeds started 3 hours after the live premiere and it started immediately how they can't stand her and they have to team up so she doesn't get all the attention from the guys etc. I didn't watch past that night but from I've read after that the those two girls built up an army against Taylor immediately and it didn't help Taylor played pool in her swim suit (like the guys were doing too) while the rest of the ugly girls were in the swimming pool staring in jealousy. I don't think I've seen too many micro aggressions but I have seen random clips of black/white talk today from Paloma and others with no context and then saying the "I don't see color" thing sksk.
However I did start to think deeper. Why is it so easy for the house to turn on a black contestants? It takes one person to flip the entire house on them instantly with ZERO pushback. How often have we seen a black houseguest be the most safe, be invited to multiple alliances, and be able to play aggressively from the jump without being an immediate target for it? Ika from bbcan? I don't think it's a coincidence. When you're black you stand out. When you're a muscular black male you're an immediate target hence why it took the cookout to be the first black men to make jury since that dude from bb10.
I used to complain about black women always be typecast to BE an outcast when Grodner took over. Why are they always the older Mom? Or the only overweight person? Outside of outliar China/Natalie/Monet on 11 and 12. It was like Kalia/Jodi/Da'vonne/Jameka/Jocasta we're cast strictly to go home early.
I don't count Chima/Natalie they had a super diverse cast to back then up. So starting with Monet the first black girl that was young, fit, not a mom. Had no reason to be an outliar. Boom out 2nd. Candice.... Dominique....
Idk where I'm going with this but they're ****** if they do play hard (Da'vonne, Bayleigh, Dominique)
****** if they dont play at all (Zakiyah, Monet)
****** for simply existing (Candice, Taylor)
You will never see a black woman be used as a Victoria/Brittany dragged to the end. They always become a target because it's a assumed they'll go off, or they won't listen, etc. This show just ain't meant to black folks unless they pull a cook out. Black folks can do well on survivor because they're just one vote like everybody else, no fear of them winning power and flipping the game on their big non black alliance formed every season
hmmm maybe there is hope for you lmaooooo this post was cute and I do agree.
Thank you baddy. And whew ignore all those typos and bad grammar I'm on my phone at work. And correction Kevin/David were the first black men to make jury since season 10 but the point still stands. 12 seasons... Makes no durn sense. That raccoon from this season better watch out. Stats don't lie. His time will come very soon. If he isn't a threat they will find a reason to label him one.
I've never said anything racist. I made a completely stupid comment trying to fit in once. I've apologized and recognized how it was wrong. I never spoke in a stereotypical way or did it as a pass to say certain things. It's ridiculous that I can't have an open discussion about the topic here. I am not trying to discredit or argue. I'm respectfully talking about it as an open discussion. That is the issue with the internet you can't respectfully discuss things. Everyone just wants to attack and accuse if you don't agree 100%.
not racist but some of the comments you've made have been racially ignorant
not racist but some of the comments you've made have been racially ignorant
I think my articulation and intent is misunderstood which is on me. Some things might go over my head because it's something I've never experienced. I treat this forum like I treat my real life friendships and try to have open discussions but when people don't know your character, intent, and delivery I can see how it comes off the wrong way. It sucks it comes off the wrong way cause this is not the way I want to be viewed. It's not my character, it's not what I believe in or stand for.
not racist but some of the comments you've made have been racially ignorant
I think my articulation and intent is misunderstood which is on me. Some things might go over my head because it's something I've never experienced. I treat this forum like I treat my real life friendships and try to have open discussions but when people don't know your character, intent, and delivery I can see how it comes off the wrong way. It sucks it comes off the wrong way cause this is not the way I want to be viewed. It's not my character, it's not what I believe in or stand for.
Maybe you should quit trying to "articulate". You're too old to not be able to see racial biases. The black people are telling you that they feel like this season is already off to a under the table racist start, and you're trying to argue that it's not. Quit trying to tell black people how to feel about things like this simple. Clearly we don't care for your perspective on this particular point, so just keep it to yourself.
Knoquerer I'd love to have a convo on dm. I didn't tell anyone how to feel. I was trying to have an open discussion, it wasn't successful. I apologize.
but yeah lemme shutup before i get called sensitive or fake woke or whatever he be saying. like konquere said i dont even watch this trash *** show but smh.
I've never said anything racist. I made a completely stupid comment trying to fit in once. I've apologized and recognized how it was wrong. I never spoke in a stereotypical way or did it as a pass to say certain things. It's ridiculous that I can't have an open discussion about the topic here. I am not trying to discredit or argue. I'm respectfully talking about it as an open discussion. That is the issue with the internet you can't respectfully discuss things. Everyone just wants to attack and accuse if you don't agree 100%.
ameerah has also been part of the Taylor bashing. https://twitter.com/kristenscamp/status/1546385050073178114?s=21&t=Z1pVt0Cu0ZX0Af90tT9s6Q
Amerrah, Monte, and Jasmine... L O L
and I don't even think Amerrah or whatever her name is, is black and Jasmine is a **** and so is Monte, so moving on.
Ameeryah dad black, mom is white she said this on feeds but it's whatever lol
no comment lmaoooooo
but BB be knowing what they doing.
I am agreeing that there is clearly microaggressions with what they are saying about her exploding post nominations. With some of them I am sure there are subconscious biases unfortunately. I think she is introverted when outside of her comfort zone and she is beautiful. So when she came in quiet I think people mistook her for being rude and *****y. She should have made more efforts with the girls. She was targeted the same reason as Michael and Terrance, because she was standoffish. They are talking trash, I just don't think that's anything worse than what we have seen before. They constantly ate Whitney alive last season behind her back and it was never a big issue.
Taylor doesn't even really seem like a big brother player she doesn't really do anything. she's very attractive but it begins and ends there.
there's not a real reason to be super pro her or against her. she's pretty bland all things considered
What's your discord. Let's have an open discussion. Certain things can't be discussed or said on this site.
This. Also it's week one, I'm just going up for her because what they are doing to her is wrong. Regardless of if she's boring or entertaining and we all know where it stems from. Big Brother, cast and production, doesn't want to see black people succeed. They hand picked that BB23 cast to finally get black people to shut up, now it's back to the basics.
Are you mentally challenged? They weren't creating false scenarios in their heads , nor creating fake conversations that were never had to bash Whitney's name. They weren't using any microaggressions, they weren't saying stupid shit like "just looking at her I knew it was going to be a problem" given NOTHING to go based off of. You're an idiot, like I said. Drop a discord link if you want a conversation.
Taylor was definitely a target of mainly Paloma and Alyssa from day 1. Feeds started 3 hours after the live premiere and it started immediately how they can't stand her and they have to team up so she doesn't get all the attention from the guys etc. I didn't watch past that night but from I've read after that the those two girls built up an army against Taylor immediately and it didn't help Taylor played pool in her swim suit (like the guys were doing too) while the rest of the ugly girls were in the swimming pool staring in jealousy. I don't think I've seen too many micro aggressions but I have seen random clips of black/white talk today from Paloma and others with no context and then saying the "I don't see color" thing sksk.
However I did start to think deeper. Why is it so easy for the house to turn on a black contestants? It takes one person to flip the entire house on them instantly with ZERO pushback. How often have we seen a black houseguest be the most safe, be invited to multiple alliances, and be able to play aggressively from the jump without being an immediate target for it? Ika from bbcan? I don't think it's a coincidence. When you're black you stand out. When you're a muscular black male you're an immediate target hence why it took the cookout to be the first black men to make jury since that dude from bb10.
I used to complain about black women always be typecast to BE an outcast when Grodner took over. Why are they always the older Mom? Or the only overweight person? Outside of outliar China/Natalie/Monet on 11 and 12. It was like Kalia/Jodi/Da'vonne/Jameka/Jocasta we're cast strictly to go home early.
I don't count Chima/Natalie they had a super diverse cast to back then up. So starting with Monet the first black girl that was young, fit, not a mom. Had no reason to be an outliar. Boom out 2nd. Candice.... Dominique....
Idk where I'm going with this but they're ****** if they do play hard (Da'vonne, Bayleigh, Dominique)
****** if they dont play at all (Zakiyah, Monet)
****** for simply existing (Candice, Taylor)
You will never see a black woman be used as a Victoria/Brittany dragged to the end. They always become a target because it's a assumed they'll go off, or they won't listen, etc. This show just ain't meant to black folks unless they pull a cook out. Black folks can do well on survivor because they're just one vote like everybody else, no fear of them winning power and flipping the game on their big non black alliance formed every season
Whew why I write all that. I'm bored
I do agree that Grodner and company is racist. They've proved it for years and gotten away with it. It looks like Joseph, Alyssa, and Nicole are realizing that Taylor is just misunderstood and not a bad person. I really hope that maybe they can turn things around. A lot of time the early target goes on to do well. It's still early!
Monte and Ameerah will still do fine enough, i see this season going a trajectory where the Mamba faction all makes jury. there's two big all guy and girls alliances so the evenly gender split Mamba should maintain drivers seat.
Monte, Ameerah, Paloma, Alyssa, Kyle, Michael...i think your winner is in there
I sent a DM, I don't have discord. I'm really sorry if I'm not articulating my opinions well. They did do a lot of that with Whitney and Shanna (minus the microaggressions) though.
Naw y'all fight here like real men do. I wanna see
Like what. Please give me examples of what they were saying about Whitney.
why are you making this about you.
honestly yall get these type of responses because why do black people still have to educate and have these conversations with yall for yall to understand. No one feels like making yall see the world like we do because yall just invalidate it, which you have done countless times. You claim youre here to "discuss" but youre the first person to write someone off and call them "sensitive" or "fake woke" when they say their thoughts.
They were constantly slut-shaming her over the clothes, calling her names, I believe they even attacked her as a mom. They made up her flirting with Xavier as a reason to target her. They always had her name in her mouth. Pretty and confident women are always talked about. However, like I keep saying they did throw in some microagressions about Taylor so that changes thing but the "mean girl" mentality has always been part of the show.
I didn't make this about me. Two back to back post brought that up and I responded. I'm not asking to be educated, I just may have missed stuff since I don't watch the feeds. In my personal life I like to have open discussions about everything because I think talking about things helps you see or at least understand a different perspective. I get I don't have a great reputation here and this place doesn't know my character so I totally get how it comes off the wrong way. I'm not trying to invalidate anything and if that is how it comes off I genuinely apologize. I just don't think or at least I really hope that the reason she is being targeted and attacked has to do with her race. Maybe I wrong though and should shut-up. The only time I call the fake woke out is when people pretend to care about racism or bigotry for a personal attack and when it's not genuine, which is generally always white people. You are a black person and have experienced things I never will and you have a perspective that I respect which is why I sent a dm. Obviously my intentions are coming off wrong though and I don't ever want to seem like I am discrediting racism so I will shut up on the matter. I sincerely apologize, my articulation on the matter was poor and my intent came off the wrong way.
except the times when you did it to me and never brought a single receipt to the table, just called me a "white savior" just because.
No you definitely had 2 comments. I wasn't going through 5000 post to prove a point though lol.
hmmm maybe there is hope for you lmaooooo this post was cute and I do agree.
i didn't and you had no point, that's just who you are and you panic when proven wrong. paraphrase what i said because you saying that and having nothing to back it up just shows you to be just as weird as everybody in here is already saying
Thank you baddy. And whew ignore all those typos and bad grammar I'm on my phone at work. And correction Kevin/David were the first black men to make jury since season 10 but the point still stands. 12 seasons... Makes no durn sense. That raccoon from this season better watch out. Stats don't lie. His time will come very soon. If he isn't a threat they will find a reason to label him one.
not racist but some of the comments you've made have been racially ignorant
I think my articulation and intent is misunderstood which is on me. Some things might go over my head because it's something I've never experienced. I treat this forum like I treat my real life friendships and try to have open discussions but when people don't know your character, intent, and delivery I can see how it comes off the wrong way. It sucks it comes off the wrong way cause this is not the way I want to be viewed. It's not my character, it's not what I believe in or stand for.
Maybe you should quit trying to "articulate". You're too old to not be able to see racial biases. The black people are telling you that they feel like this season is already off to a under the table racist start, and you're trying to argue that it's not. Quit trying to tell black people how to feel about things like this simple. Clearly we don't care for your perspective on this particular point, so just keep it to yourself.
Knoquerer I'd love to have a convo on dm. I didn't tell anyone how to feel. I was trying to have an open discussion, it wasn't successful. I apologize.
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