The Challenge : Ride or Dies - Spoilers Discussion

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3/3 finals only had to see an elim bc of the red skull . That's a good social game

Kaycee honestly isn't that good. I think if she was thrown into eliminations she would lose.. but these producers set up eliminations where they make sure they get the winner they want. It needs to go back to the BOTS format where the house picks the elimination.

Nobody is saying that she is a top tier athlete and she's an amazing strategist that dominates everyone, but the facts are that she is really well built phisically, she performs really good at dailies, her social game is on point and she hasn't embarassed herself in eliminations

Big T has a good social game 

Nany has a good social game ( it's her only good attribute) 

CT has a good social game 

Kam has a good social game 

Theres more to add to the list but Kaycee wouldn't be one of them. 

you're tripping. She has a solid social game - granted she came into the game with a BB crew which definitely helps, but despite that, she's never been a direct target for people. 

Lol Kaycee's social game is not that good. We never see that girl communicating with any rookies or other vets outside of her partners. The only reason people don't target her is because a lot of rookies gravitate towards Nany who obviously vouches for Kaycee. Kaycee sticks within the same group of a pre-game alliance every season and has a bit of strength to back herself up.

 

a big part of having a social/political game is the strategy behind it. kaycee doesn't strategize, she's just easy to get along with, which is a benefit to her but it doesn't really count as a social game 

Social game and political game are two completely different things, you can be great politically and strategizing and be bad socially and vice-versa.

Wes is a great political player, but preety average socially, Laurel is amazing in politics but awful socially, Nany is great socially, but not that great at politics

Kaycee is good socially, she never gets targeted, basically the only eliminations she went in she went because she wanted, and basically everyone on every show she did liked her and didn't want to vote her out/send her to elimination, for that is being good socially

that makes sense. but I still think it's more luck plus being easy to get along with rather than a good social game. nany is good socially because she's more strategic about the relationships she makes, kaycee isn't strategic. it's not a bad thing, and it's a benefit to her because she doesn't need one.

She's about to make her 4th final in a row with ease lol

I never thought i would say this but for final 16 add skulls force them to battle for it

She's about to make her 4th final in a row with ease lol

maybe, isn't there like 4 elims left

Kaycee has a great social game. Has anyone other than Bay ever even had a small issue with her on The Challenge?

I never thought i would say this but for final 16 add skulls force them to battle for it

No skulls. Never again.

Kaycee has a great social game. Has anyone other than Bay ever even had a small issue with her on The Challenge?

I mean how can someone have an issue with someone that literally does nothing... it's like having an issue with the couch in the living room

 

a big part of having a social/political game is the strategy behind it. kaycee doesn't strategize, she's just easy to get along with, which is a benefit to her but it doesn't really count as a social game 

Social game and political game are two completely different things, you can be great politically and strategizing and be bad socially and vice-versa.

Wes is a great political player, but preety average socially, Laurel is amazing in politics but awful socially, Nany is great socially, but not that great at politics

Kaycee is good socially, she never gets targeted, basically the only eliminations she went in she went because she wanted, and basically everyone on every show she did liked her and didn't want to vote her out/send her to elimination, for that is being good socially

Wes is overrated. He's made a couple big moves (Evan calling out CT and Wes sending in Leroy) but Ev was the brains on FM2 and more often than not his political game screws him.  Susie was great politically as was Veronica for a while same with Coral. JEK, love or hate them, were all great at it. Jenn was great. Wes was great sometimes and the worst at other times. 

 

Kaycee has a great social game. Has anyone other than Bay ever even had a small issue with her on The Challenge?

I mean how can someone have an issue with someone that literally does nothing... it's like having an issue with the couch in the living room

See Dario

this is literally the worst boot order I have ever seen

 

 

a big part of having a social/political game is the strategy behind it. kaycee doesn't strategize, she's just easy to get along with, which is a benefit to her but it doesn't really count as a social game 

Social game and political game are two completely different things, you can be great politically and strategizing and be bad socially and vice-versa.

Wes is a great political player, but preety average socially, Laurel is amazing in politics but awful socially, Nany is great socially, but not that great at politics

Kaycee is good socially, she never gets targeted, basically the only eliminations she went in she went because she wanted, and basically everyone on every show she did liked her and didn't want to vote her out/send her to elimination, for that is being good socially

Wes is overrated. He's made a couple big moves (Evan calling out CT and Wes sending in Leroy) but Ev was the brains on FM2 and more often than not his political game screws him.  Susie was great politically as was Veronica for a while same with Coral. JEK, love or hate them, were all great at it. Jenn was great. Wes was great sometimes and the worst at other times. 

The point was just to show that you could be good/great in politics and be terrible socially, that's why I used Laurel and Wes as examples

until the girl gets eliminated or doesn't make a final we're all just speaking into a vacuum that her bank account doesn't care about. good social game bad social game. whatever game she plays has and continues to work.

the end really 

recent seasons has shown that the best strategy is to get yourself invited to a preseason vacay

dumb as a box of rocks Kailah made an enemy out of me this season. Jenna fans i see what you mean now 

Counting down the days until Nany wins the season 

Filming ends the week of July 18th. So this should speed up pretty quickly. I'd love two big teams to run the final

recent seasons has shown that the best strategy is to get yourself invited to a preseason vacay

So whats the explanation for KC making it to finals her other three seasons ? This is the first season all these people went on vacay together last time it was only  Devin, Tori, and Anessa that went lol you guys say stuff just to say it

When it becomes individual and Jordan smokes Fessy in the final >>>>

Filming ends the week of July 18th. So this should speed up pretty quickly. I'd love two big teams to run the final

They dont need big teams if that is ending film date they can just keep it in teams and eliminate 4 a week that should bring them to the 18th.

Filming ends the week of July 18th. So this should speed up pretty quickly. I'd love two big teams to run the final

Who told you this goes to 18th ? If true individual elims should be happening then

Hopefully this is only 14-16 episodes. Apparently this is airing in September, so that's all they have room for, assuming it doesn't air into the next year. 

I would hope their cheap ***** aren't pressed for ad money since we have The Challenge USA and the documentary airing leading up to 38

Counting down the days until Nany wins the season 

Happy Amber will be eliminated week! Smile

Happy Amber will be eliminated week!

Counting down the days until Nany wins the season 

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