Adam didnt even get a ban for fighting, he came back the next season when he arguably instigated the fight. And he is black since you guys always want to make everything about race.
nearly killing someone and instigating a fight are two different things bozo and race is always a factor with this show and in life
Darrell almost killed Brad and literally no one cares at all. You pick and choose to falsely claim race is a factor.
never commented on Darrell bozo #2 you just wanted a counter argument to why CT has been protected on this show for so many years + with that argument CT had many situations were he shouldn't have been back whereas D only had one and that situation was purely self defense and Brad deserved it
Darrell is also black and wasn't penalized for being violent nor was CT after their first incident. CT was punished for his second.. They are consistent and as time went on they got more strict due to society demanding more. Give an example of a black man that was more harshly penalized at the same time as CT. I'll wait...
You're right there aren't any black men more harshly penalized bc black people know that if they acted even slightly out of character they would NEVER be asked back so they have to keep their composure. So telling people to look back on past facts without bringing up that POC players have to play by different rules than their white counterparts is idiotic.
So you're saying it's something you believe to be a fact but can't prove it. Thanks.
I think without the Diem romance he would have been long gone.
That's what I always thought, CT was NOTHING before the duel. B list real worlder perhaps, but a C-list challenger that gave production nothing to work with outside of the missions
Get over it, he changed. People arent perfect and wither are you, stop whining. Cancel culture Carrie.
Yes, people change. But the big difference with CT that always aggravated me is that there was never any apology. When other castmembers have messed up on his scale, Laurel, Jordan.....Dee, there's always a press tour filled with watery apologies. Whether or not these people meant these apologies is another topic (Jordan didn't), at the very least there's on-camera accountability, discussion, and embarassment. CT's past actions have been hidden completely and whenever they come up he just says "that was a long time ago". Change in my opinion starts with an apology and acknowledgment. CT doesn't know how to apologize (ask Big T) and MTV doesn't want to acknowledge it.
Get over it, he changed. People arent perfect and wither are you, stop whining. Cancel culture Carrie.
Yes, people change. But the big difference with CT that always aggravated me is that there was never any apology. When other castmembers have messed up on his scale, Laurel, Jordan.....Dee, there's always a press tour filled with watery apologies. Whether or not these people meant these apologies is another topic (Jordan didn't), at the very least there's on-camera accountability, discussion, and embarassment. CT's past actions have been hidden completely and whenever they come up he just says "that was a long time ago". Change in my opinion starts with an apology and acknowledgment. CT doesn't know how to apologize (ask Big T) and MTV doesn't want to acknowledge it.
Adam didnt even get a ban for fighting, he came back the next season when he arguably instigated the fight. And he is black since you guys always want to make everything about race.
nearly killing someone and instigating a fight are two different things bozo and race is always a factor with this show and in life
Darrell almost killed Brad and literally no one cares at all. You pick and choose to falsely claim race is a factor.
never commented on Darrell bozo #2 you just wanted a counter argument to why CT has been protected on this show for so many years + with that argument CT had many situations were he shouldn't have been back whereas D only had one and that situation was purely self defense and Brad deserved it
Darrell is also black and wasn't penalized for being violent nor was CT after their first incident. CT was punished for his second.. They are consistent and as time went on they got more strict due to society demanding more. Give an example of a black man that was more harshly penalized at the same time as CT. I'll wait...
You're right there aren't any black men more harshly penalized bc black people know that if they acted even slightly out of character they would NEVER be asked back so they have to keep their composure. So telling people to look back on past facts without bringing up that POC players have to play by different rules than their white counterparts is idiotic.
So you're saying it's something you believe to be a fact but can't prove it. Thanks.
And your trying to clapback with 0 reading comprehension skills. Strong meds today at the old folks home?
Get over it, he changed. People arent perfect and wither are you, stop whining. Cancel culture Carrie.
Yes, people change. But the big difference with CT that always aggravated me is that there was never any apology. When other castmembers have messed up on his scale, Laurel, Jordan.....Dee, there's always a press tour filled with watery apologies. Whether or not these people meant these apologies is another topic (Jordan didn't), at the very least there's on-camera accountability, discussion, and embarassment. CT's past actions have been hidden completely and whenever they come up he just says "that was a long time ago". Change in my opinion starts with an apology and acknowledgment. CT doesn't know how to apologize (ask Big T) and MTV doesn't want to acknowledge it.
I watched the first episode of Inferno 3 and when he got sent home he didn't even act sorry in his confessional. And now he wants to be an actor zzzzzzzz
Adam didnt even get a ban for fighting, he came back the next season when he arguably instigated the fight. And he is black since you guys always want to make everything about race.
nearly killing someone and instigating a fight are two different things bozo and race is always a factor with this show and in life
Darrell almost killed Brad and literally no one cares at all. You pick and choose to falsely claim race is a factor.
never commented on Darrell bozo #2 you just wanted a counter argument to why CT has been protected on this show for so many years + with that argument CT had many situations were he shouldn't have been back whereas D only had one and that situation was purely self defense and Brad deserved it
Darrell is also black and wasn't penalized for being violent nor was CT after their first incident. CT was punished for his second.. They are consistent and as time went on they got more strict due to society demanding more. Give an example of a black man that was more harshly penalized at the same time as CT. I'll wait...
You're right there aren't any black men more harshly penalized bc black people know that if they acted even slightly out of character they would NEVER be asked back so they have to keep their composure. So telling people to look back on past facts without bringing up that POC players have to play by different rules than their white counterparts is idiotic.
So you're saying it's something you believe to be a fact but can't prove it. Thanks.
And your trying to clapback with 0 reading comprehension skills. Strong meds today at the old folks home?
If you can't provide an example it's your belief not a fact. I read what you wrote. You incorrectly believe that your opinion regarding it makes it a fact.
Adam didnt even get a ban for fighting, he came back the next season when he arguably instigated the fight. And he is black since you guys always want to make everything about race.
nearly killing someone and instigating a fight are two different things bozo and race is always a factor with this show and in life
Darrell almost killed Brad and literally no one cares at all. You pick and choose to falsely claim race is a factor.
never commented on Darrell bozo #2 you just wanted a counter argument to why CT has been protected on this show for so many years + with that argument CT had many situations were he shouldn't have been back whereas D only had one and that situation was purely self defense and Brad deserved it
Darrell is also black and wasn't penalized for being violent nor was CT after their first incident. CT was punished for his second.. They are consistent and as time went on they got more strict due to society demanding more. Give an example of a black man that was more harshly penalized at the same time as CT. I'll wait...
You're right there aren't any black men more harshly penalized bc black people know that if they acted even slightly out of character they would NEVER be asked back so they have to keep their composure. So telling people to look back on past facts without bringing up that POC players have to play by different rules than their white counterparts is idiotic.
So you're saying it's something you believe to be a fact but can't prove it. Thanks.
And your trying to clapback with 0 reading comprehension skills. Strong meds today at the old folks home?
If you can't provide an example it's your belief not a fact. I read what you wrote. You incorrectly believe that your opinion regarding it makes it a fact.
You want me to prove something that didn't happen bc POC castmembers knew they couldn't behave that way? Its redundant and the only thread holding your arguement together is "past actions".
If you want an example I guess Dustin mushing Franks face on BOTS, Amanda mushing Camila on Rivals 3 (iconic) didn't DQ them but Nelson mushing Derrick on XXX did.
Adam didnt even get a ban for fighting, he came back the next season when he arguably instigated the fight. And he is black since you guys always want to make everything about race.
nearly killing someone and instigating a fight are two different things bozo and race is always a factor with this show and in life
Darrell almost killed Brad and literally no one cares at all. You pick and choose to falsely claim race is a factor.
never commented on Darrell bozo #2 you just wanted a counter argument to why CT has been protected on this show for so many years + with that argument CT had many situations were he shouldn't have been back whereas D only had one and that situation was purely self defense and Brad deserved it
Darrell is also black and wasn't penalized for being violent nor was CT after their first incident. CT was punished for his second.. They are consistent and as time went on they got more strict due to society demanding more. Give an example of a black man that was more harshly penalized at the same time as CT. I'll wait...
You're right there aren't any black men more harshly penalized bc black people know that if they acted even slightly out of character they would NEVER be asked back so they have to keep their composure. So telling people to look back on past facts without bringing up that POC players have to play by different rules than their white counterparts is idiotic.
So you're saying it's something you believe to be a fact but can't prove it. Thanks.
And your trying to clapback with 0 reading comprehension skills. Strong meds today at the old folks home?
What's wrong with his age again? At least he lived to see it.
If you want an example I guess Dustin mushing Franks face on BOTS, Amanda mushing Camila on Rivals 3 (iconic) didn't DQ them but Nelson mushing Derrick on XXX did.
I dont think the Duel 2 episode 1 has as much to do with the fight considering some of it is shown in Episode 2 within the first minute and more to do with the fact that Isaac is seen prominently in blackface dressed up as Flava Flav and not only was it accepted, most of the cast was praising it as a highlight of the night. Obviously this is a no go nowadays. Pretty sure if the Emily incident had gone a different way where it was praised and everyone was laughing with no issues, that would be pulled too.
No doubt CT gets a great edit and probably has been protected by production in many cases, I just dont believe the Duel 2 Episode 1 not being on Paramount is one of them.
I dont think the Duel 2 episode 1 has as much to do with the fight considering some of it is shown in Episode 2 within the first minute and more to do with the fact that Isaac is seen prominently in blackface dressed up as Flava Flav and not only was it accepted, most of the cast was praising it as a highlight of the night. Obviously this is a no go nowadays. Pretty sure if the Emily incident had gone a different way where it was praised and everyone was laughing with no issues, that would be pulled too.
No doubt CT gets a great edit and probably has been protected by production in many cases, I just dont believe the Duel 2 Episode 1 not being on Paramount is one of them.
That's a good call--I forgot about Isaac and the blackface
Darrell almost killed Brad and literally no one cares at all. You pick and choose to falsely claim race is a factor.
never commented on Darrell bozo #2 you just wanted a counter argument to why CT has been protected on this show for so many years + with that argument CT had many situations were he shouldn't have been back whereas D only had one and that situation was purely self defense and Brad deserved it
Darrell is also black and wasn't penalized for being violent nor was CT after their first incident. CT was punished for his second.. They are consistent and as time went on they got more strict due to society demanding more. Give an example of a black man that was more harshly penalized at the same time as CT. I'll wait...
You're right there aren't any black men more harshly penalized bc black people know that if they acted even slightly out of character they would NEVER be asked back so they have to keep their composure. So telling people to look back on past facts without bringing up that POC players have to play by different rules than their white counterparts is idiotic.
exactly black men aren't that stupid enough to continuously engage in physical altercations cause they know it won't be a third time or a come back in a two season ban or be brought back in a surprise elimination so of course he would say that cause black men don't get as many chances as CT has
So you're saying it's something you believe to be a fact but can't prove it. Thanks.
No it's my way of saying you add nothing to the conversation moron.
oh boy this is a fun thread
I think without the Diem romance he would have been long gone.
Yep, I think you had as valid a comment as all the others here.
Get
Get over it, he changed. People arent perfect and wither are you, stop whining. Cancel culture Carrie.
That's what I always thought, CT was NOTHING before the duel. B list real worlder perhaps, but a C-list challenger that gave production nothing to work with outside of the missions
Yes, people change. But the big difference with CT that always aggravated me is that there was never any apology. When other castmembers have messed up on his scale, Laurel, Jordan.....Dee, there's always a press tour filled with watery apologies. Whether or not these people meant these apologies is another topic (Jordan didn't), at the very least there's on-camera accountability, discussion, and embarassment. CT's past actions have been hidden completely and whenever they come up he just says "that was a long time ago". Change in my opinion starts with an apology and acknowledgment. CT doesn't know how to apologize (ask Big T) and MTV doesn't want to acknowledge it.
or how Sarah said producton found Adderall he was taking during Rivals 3 and let him win anyways..... so annoying
Perfectly stated <3
And your trying to clapback with 0 reading comprehension skills. Strong meds today at the old folks home?
I watched the first episode of Inferno 3 and when he got sent home he didn't even act sorry in his confessional. And now he wants to be an actor zzzzzzzz
If you can't provide an example it's your belief not a fact. I read what you wrote. You incorrectly believe that your opinion regarding it makes it a fact.
You want me to prove something that didn't happen bc POC castmembers knew they couldn't behave that way? Its redundant and the only thread holding your arguement together is "past actions".
If you want an example I guess Dustin mushing Franks face on BOTS, Amanda mushing Camila on Rivals 3 (iconic) didn't DQ them but Nelson mushing Derrick on XXX did.
What's wrong with his age again? At least he lived to see it.
Nelson was warned earlier that season...
Why was Nelson warned?
The nonsense at the bar when he was defending Cory. Hunter "it's just Nelson being a best friend to Cory"
oooh ok
I dont think the Duel 2 episode 1 has as much to do with the fight considering some of it is shown in Episode 2 within the first minute and more to do with the fact that Isaac is seen prominently in blackface dressed up as Flava Flav and not only was it accepted, most of the cast was praising it as a highlight of the night. Obviously this is a no go nowadays. Pretty sure if the Emily incident had gone a different way where it was praised and everyone was laughing with no issues, that would be pulled too.
No doubt CT gets a great edit and probably has been protected by production in many cases, I just dont believe the Duel 2 Episode 1 not being on Paramount is one of them.
That's a good call--I forgot about Isaac and the blackface
fat *** wouldn't have a mouth to talk out of if he tried
exactly black men aren't that stupid enough to continuously engage in physical altercations cause they know it won't be a third time or a come back in a two season ban or be brought back in a surprise elimination so of course he would say that cause black men don't get as many chances as CT has
I wish MTV would drop him
I wonder what Sarah would say if she was told "You're right, therefore your team is disqualified" and she got nothing anyway.
shed sit there like a moron saying "this changes everything"
Add Josh to the list. I am rewatching WOTW2 and he nearly laid out Josh episode one. Had forgotten about this. (I know Josh isn't out but c'mon)
PATTERN
Wait--no one yelling at Josh is in the wrong. Josh was annoying as **** in that situation.
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