What these morons at paramount or whatever fail to realize is that this show is at its best when these people have a history/relationship that dates back YEARS. im talking about when you would see people from their original rw/rr seasons be reunited or something. Not doing 5+ challenges in a row with a fake feud/rivalry.
Exactly. This is why the CBS Challenge will be better than The Challenge and why All-Stars is better even with the horrible editing. They need to bring back the Challenge back to roots and then do a knock-off Ninja Warrior style comp show.
What these morons at paramount or whatever fail to realize is that this show is at its best when these people have a history/relationship that dates back YEARS. im talking about when you would see people from their original rw/rr seasons be reunited or something. Not doing 5+ challenges in a row with a fake feud/rivalry.
I still can't figure out why they're casting like this. There are so many other people they can get.... people that the audience is somewhat firmilar with. Cast from Love Is Blind, The Circle etc...
Exactly. The shows works best when it's people from similiar shows with relationships. The whole random casting from 40 different show kills the game. They keep wanting to make it the "most cutthroat game EVER" but when it's just strangers being picked off...that's not cutthroat.
I just think this game fell apart when they went international. The Brits were cool because they were amazing TV and had huge personalities. I think WOTW2 is one of the best seasons in modern times.. If they wanted to cast overseas I wish they stayed that course, because nobody in the US knows who any of these people are and it's turning people off.
Forget the producers, I still blame MTV. There is no reason to cancel all their reality TV shows in favor of ridiculousness. This is mtv's fault for not having a casting pool.
Brits were fine at first because they had relationships. They all knew eachother so their dynamics were interesting. The audience just isn't going to connect with randoms from all over the world and they aren't going to fit into the game unless they kiss the vets *** and that just makes awful tv.
& people were mad last season that random rookies from completely different shows didnt form some magical rookies alliance despite being big in numbers. This all shows how bad casting but also how bad the fan base is ****.
I'd be here for a kind of casting/format repeat of some sorts of WOTW1/2. Anything other than the last 3 seasons surely has to be an upgrade... can it get much worse than SLA?
Let some Poles in . We are messy loud and like to drink .we hook up like crazy and our seasons of ex on the beach had people quiting and production getting involved .
So after production adding 20 unknown rookies last season from yugoslavia that made the ratings fall from 1 million to 500k their solution is just adding even more international unknowns LOL. If you're gonna have all those random rookies the least you can do is have most of them be from american shows that the audience actually know of.
So after production adding 20 unknown rookies last season from yugoslavia that made the ratings fall from 1 million to 500k their solution is just adding even more international unknowns LOL. If you're gonna have all those random rookies the least you can do is have most of them be from american shows that the audience actually know of.
Maybe if ratings get low enough they'll just cancel it. I feel the show has run its course and it's time for it to go. Let them continue to add all these random people no one cares about and let the show die into the sunset.
Maybe if ratings get low enough they'll just cancel it.
It's stil the highest rated show on MTV, right?
Well i would hope so with them having 40 castmembers on. You would think though with that 500k drop between seasons plus spies lies and allies having over 10 of its episodes in the all time lowest watched episodes ever chart that things would change. But clearly they dont care as they only air the new episode once a week and never again anyways. Can't wait for the 20 new internationals from yugoslavia! :)
Maybe if ratings get low enough they'll just cancel it.
It's stil the highest rated show on MTV, right?
Well i would hope so with them having 40 castmembers on. You would think though with that 500k drop between seasons plus spies lies and allies having over 10 of its episodes in the all time lowest watched episodes ever chart that things would change. But clearly they dont care as they only air the new episode once a week and never again anyways. Can't wait for the 20 new internationals from yugoslavia! :)
I think it's safe to say we all hate ratings but I think we also understand why they do what they do. It hurts the quality of show especially for long time fans but that doesn't alter they're happy with what they're getting.
And 500k while factual is misleading--see all shows.
i wasnt posting here but did vevmo have this many people mad about the show during like WOTW1/2? this seems more than usual the last 2 seasons
why does production not listen to fans?
why would a production staff listen to Vevmo?? this site consists of literally just you, OldSchooler, KVM arguing every day and maybe 10 more semi consistent posters.
that's not gonna be anybody's demo test group ****
i wasnt posting here but did vevmo have this many people mad about the show during like WOTW1/2? this seems more than usual the last 2 seasons
why does production not listen to fans?
why would a production staff listen to Vevmo?? this site consists of literally just you, OldSchooler, KVM arguing every day and maybe 10 more semi consistent posters.
that's not gonna be anybody's demo test group ****
everyone on twitter hates the season, reddit, idk where else casuals go (facebook?) but lats season was universally hated. and the ratings showed it.
i don't get it. i guess they think bringing back bananas, tony, will be enough.
i think they're too far removed from ever being culturally relevant again. They'd have to have culturally relevant programming to actually pull from to get the old feeling of what it meant to be on the challenge.
Netflix is also dying or it'd be a good idea for them to just steal the whole thing since people do actually watch their reality tv shows lol
I don't think this show is dead or I wouldn't be here talking about it. WOTW2 wasn't that long ago and minus a few awful castings, making it too dark, and not understanding how to make challenges fair by sitting people out it was GREAT. Then they thought the bunker was sooo great but watching miserable people compete isn't good tv. It's draining. People watched The Challenge because it seemed fun, All-Stars did a good job capturing that. But we alsonwant DRAMA. MTV is supposed to be risque, it's what attracts young people. They want to keep it wholesome while the most watched show by their demographics is Euphoria...people don't want boring. PEOPLE WANT DRAMA. Real Housewives continues to stay in the millions because they thrive on drama and living a glamorous lifestyle. The Challenge needs to do the same. Ugh, the necessary changes are so simple. How do these well paid executives not get it.
Maybe if ratings get low enough they'll just cancel it.
It's stil the highest rated show on MTV, right?
Well i would hope so with them having 40 castmembers on. You would think though with that 500k drop between seasons plus spies lies and allies having over 10 of its episodes in the all time lowest watched episodes ever chart that things would change. But clearly they dont care as they only air the new episode once a week and never again anyways. Can't wait for the 20 new internationals from yugoslavia! :)
Yea and like you said why can't they at least cast from US shows where we actually know the people? Is it because of pay? The Challenge has always been notoriously cheap. Is it cheaper to just get randoms from other countries over US reality tv talent?
I don't think this show is dead or I wouldn't be here talking about it. WOTW2 wasn't that long ago and minus a few awful castings, making it too dark, and not understanding how to make challenges fair by sitting people out it was GREAT. Then they thought the bunker was sooo great but watching miserable people compete isn't good tv. It's draining. People watched The Challenge because it seemed fun, All-Stars did a good job capturing that. But we alsonwant DRAMA. MTV is supposed to be risque, it's what attracts young people. They want to keep it wholesome while the most watched show by their demographics is Euphoria...people don't want boring. PEOPLE WANT DRAMA. Real Housewives continues to stay in the millions because they thrive on drama and living a glamorous lifestyle. The Challenge needs to do the same. Ugh, the necessary changes are so simple. How do these well paid executives not get it.
I agree. Bravo listens to their fans almost always a lot of the times they even base their decisions on who to keep there based on what the fans say mtv should seriously take notes. Bravo's ratings aren't like they were maybe 10 years ago HOWEVER most of their shows stay in the millions or a little below that...this should've been mtv but for some reason they wanna destroy their network
Are they doing another season of AYTO? At least then we can hope for some MTV cast members. Are they even making many MTV shows anymore? It's the Big Brother ones I can't stand, even more than international randoms.
Are they doing another season of AYTO? At least then we can hope for some MTV cast members. Are they even making many MTV shows anymore? It's the Big Brother ones I can't stand, even more than international randoms.
New seasons of Ayto and Eotb (with no reality stars) however knowing mtv they'll pay both of those shows dust
sooo we're definitely getting someone from there
Exactly. This is why the CBS Challenge will be better than The Challenge and why All-Stars is better even with the horrible editing. They need to bring back the Challenge back to roots and then do a knock-off Ninja Warrior style comp show.
I just think this game fell apart when they went international. The Brits were cool because they were amazing TV and had huge personalities. I think WOTW2 is one of the best seasons in modern times.. If they wanted to cast overseas I wish they stayed that course, because nobody in the US knows who any of these people are and it's turning people off.
Forget the producers, I still blame MTV. There is no reason to cancel all their reality TV shows in favor of ridiculousness. This is mtv's fault for not having a casting pool.
Brits were fine at first because they had relationships. They all knew eachother so their dynamics were interesting. The audience just isn't going to connect with randoms from all over the world and they aren't going to fit into the game unless they kiss the vets *** and that just makes awful tv.
& people were mad last season that random rookies from completely different shows didnt form some magical rookies alliance despite being big in numbers. This all shows how bad casting but also how bad the fan base is ****.
I'd be here for a kind of casting/format repeat of some sorts of WOTW1/2. Anything other than the last 3 seasons surely has to be an upgrade... can it get much worse than SLA?
It's hilarious they don't even acknowledge how piss-poor a product S37 was. Let's get more rookies who suck at challenges and can't speak English!
If we're gonna get more rookies can we draft them from 90 Day Fiance rather than wherever the scrubs from S37 came from?
CANCEL THE MAIN CHALLENGE
PUT ALL STARS ON MTV
i wasnt posting here but did vevmo have this many people mad about the show during like WOTW1/2? this seems more than usual the last 2 seasons
why does production not listen to fans?
nope. I want my uncensored cursing.
Let some Poles in . We are messy loud and like to drink .we hook up like crazy and our seasons of ex on the beach had people quiting and production getting involved .
So after production adding 20 unknown rookies last season from yugoslavia that made the ratings fall from 1 million to 500k their solution is just adding even more international unknowns LOL. If you're gonna have all those random rookies the least you can do is have most of them be from american shows that the audience actually know of.
Maybe if ratings get low enough they'll just cancel it. I feel the show has run its course and it's time for it to go. Let them continue to add all these random people no one cares about and let the show die into the sunset.
It's stil the highest rated show on MTV, right?
Well i would hope so with them having 40 castmembers on. You would think though with that 500k drop between seasons plus spies lies and allies having over 10 of its episodes in the all time lowest watched episodes ever chart that things would change. But clearly they dont care as they only air the new episode once a week and never again anyways. Can't wait for the 20 new internationals from yugoslavia! :)
I think it's safe to say we all hate ratings but I think we also understand why they do what they do. It hurts the quality of show especially for long time fans but that doesn't alter they're happy with what they're getting.
And 500k while factual is misleading--see all shows.
why would a production staff listen to Vevmo?? this site consists of literally just you, OldSchooler, KVM arguing every day and maybe 10 more semi consistent posters.
that's not gonna be anybody's demo test group ****
They should listen to me. I guarantee I could save this horrid mess.
Production def was more open to casting suggestions during invasion - dirty 30 trilogy..
everyone on twitter hates the season, reddit, idk where else casuals go (facebook?) but lats season was universally hated. and the ratings showed it.
i don't get it. i guess they think bringing back bananas, tony, will be enough.
i think they're too far removed from ever being culturally relevant again. They'd have to have culturally relevant programming to actually pull from to get the old feeling of what it meant to be on the challenge.
Netflix is also dying or it'd be a good idea for them to just steal the whole thing since people do actually watch their reality tv shows lol
I don't think this show is dead or I wouldn't be here talking about it. WOTW2 wasn't that long ago and minus a few awful castings, making it too dark, and not understanding how to make challenges fair by sitting people out it was GREAT. Then they thought the bunker was sooo great but watching miserable people compete isn't good tv. It's draining. People watched The Challenge because it seemed fun, All-Stars did a good job capturing that. But we alsonwant DRAMA. MTV is supposed to be risque, it's what attracts young people. They want to keep it wholesome while the most watched show by their demographics is Euphoria...people don't want boring. PEOPLE WANT DRAMA. Real Housewives continues to stay in the millions because they thrive on drama and living a glamorous lifestyle. The Challenge needs to do the same. Ugh, the necessary changes are so simple. How do these well paid executives not get it.
Yea and like you said why can't they at least cast from US shows where we actually know the people? Is it because of pay? The Challenge has always been notoriously cheap. Is it cheaper to just get randoms from other countries over US reality tv talent?
I agree. Bravo listens to their fans almost always a lot of the times they even base their decisions on who to keep there based on what the fans say mtv should seriously take notes. Bravo's ratings aren't like they were maybe 10 years ago HOWEVER most of their shows stay in the millions or a little below that...this should've been mtv but for some reason they wanna destroy their network
Yea it may be MTV's highest rated show but how many original shows do they have now? 5?
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Are they doing another season of AYTO? At least then we can hope for some MTV cast members. Are they even making many MTV shows anymore? It's the Big Brother ones I can't stand, even more than international randoms.
New seasons of Ayto and Eotb (with no reality stars) however knowing mtv they'll pay both of those shows dust
leroy really invited everyone possible huh
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