The Challenge: Ride or Dies (Pointless Speculation)

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I don't mind Kaycee but they can't only have "Kaycees"

I don't mind Kaycee but they can't only have "Kaycees"

But saying Kaycee as a cast member is "at another level?"

What to expect for 38

https://t.co/Ibv1Gg8inT“There’s a lot happening in The Challengeuniverse,” Harkin said. “It has a cult following around the world, and our casting this season reflected that. The show is literally expanding to where we’re gonna be rolling out the franchise in multiple continents, beyond our flagship, which is obviously The Challenge here in the States. It’s totally crazy. We’re so excited. We’re totally beyond proud of our show. For me, our games are on another level. Our casts are at another level, Kaycee being a prime example.”

i mean obviously she's gonna say kaycee since her and CT were doing the panel with them. not that big of a deal 

I don't mind Kaycee but they can't only have "Kaycees"

But saying Kaycee as a cast member is "at another level?"

I think they mean "double minority" and "great competitor" not in terms of entertainment.  Not saying they're right but I think that's what they're saying.  We all know I'd rather have old schoolers  lol

Josh and Derek F doing a season together? Interesting.

She was destined to be a failure when her parents named her Emer.

I can't believe that Emer has been working on this show since The Duel 2.

The challenge youtube made an entire kaycee's best moments video lol and shockingly it was 45 minutes long so her being named in the article isnt too shocking. Clearly they are pushing this hard to be america's 5th sport all while cutting out all the drama.

She was destined to be a failure when her parents named her Emer.

lmaoo

I can't believe that Emer has been working on this show since The Duel 2.

Been declining ever since too lol.

The challenge youtube made an entire kaycee's best moments video lol and shockingly it was 45 minutes long so her being named in the article isnt too shocking. Clearly they are pushing this hard to be america's 5th sport all while cutting out all the drama.

That's fine if that's the (misguided) direction they want to take. But it needs to be a 30 minute show for 10 weeks. You can't cast boringass people wanting it to be a competition show that can't carry a 90 minute show for 20 weeks. It just doesn't work as the past two seasons have proven. Especially this day and age when the viewing audience has the attention span of a gnat.

They alt Jenny for being boring (rightfully) but Kaycee is the greatest casting? Lol 

They alt Jenny for being boring (rightfully) but Kaycee is the greatest casting? Lol 

Because kaycee is a double minority. I just dont understand why they praise kaycee to the heavens yet sideline amber and act like she doesnt exist when she was the first black person to win the show in like 15 years. Plus even amber's "boring" *** contributes, it was pretty much the amber show in the first half of spies lies and allies. Kaycee brings nothing but they are too lazy to try to find another asian female just like production apparently loves snoozefest nam vo and dont want to branch out and find another asian man.

 

just bc he is working out doesnt mean he's on it

there is someone sabotaging the main show if they cast him lol. casting for the CBS one and All Stars have been great 

 

Gamervev already said he was contacted for 38. I just don't see lazy *** DF training this hard for almost 2 months now if they didn't offer him a conditional spot on 38, plus he's been getting close with several of the MTV challenge folks and even Wes has commented on one of his past IG posts which is random. Everything points to him being casted for it.

what did Wes say?

 

 

just bc he is working out doesnt mean he's on it

there is someone sabotaging the main show if they cast him lol. casting for the CBS one and All Stars have been great 

 

Gamervev already said he was contacted for 38. I just don't see lazy *** DF training this hard for almost 2 months now if they didn't offer him a conditional spot on 38, plus he's been getting close with several of the MTV challenge folks and even Wes has commented on one of his past IG posts which is random. Everything points to him being casted for it.

what did Wes say?

 

Just typical IG positive comment you find on anyone's picture....nothing special.

How would you guys feel about an championdarrell & KVM breaks?

How would you guys feel about an championdarrell & KVM breaks?

really Sad  

if it gets kvm off i'll sacrifice for the group but i havent done anything pr ?? 

How would you guys feel about an championdarrell & KVM breaks?

2 weeks of peace would be nice 

Imagine thinking Kaycee is on another level.. I'm dead.. lol Should we even bother spoiling/watching this season?

Imagine thinking Kaycee is on another level.. I'm dead.. lol Should we even bother spoiling/watching this season?

Only to watch Laurel seek redemption on Knot So Fast and take Kaycee out in the process.

How would you guys feel about an championdarrell & KVM breaks?

lol I haven't even been fighting with people.  OS should go way before me

Casting on different continents would be great if they cast the entertaining/loudmouths/ shit starters / game bots / intiminating people from all genders etc and not boring first round layups.

 

 

How would you guys feel about an championdarrell & KVM breaks?

lol I haven't even been fighting with people.  OS should go way before me

lol now what have I done? 

Casting on different continents would be great if they cast the entertaining/loudmouths/ shit starters / game bots / intiminating people from all genders etc and not boring first round layups.

Casting in different countries would work if this show actually work anywhere else other than here. But it has failed in every single country even when they had Tasha in Nigeria. All they are doing is hurting their product for their "cult audience" hence ratings here stay going down too.

In order for this to work outside here they need to adapt this show to another demographic, which they haven't done. What works there doesn't work here and what works here doesn't work there.

Other countries like the violence, drama, and ***. America is one of the few extremely soft PG countries so this boring competition show they created doesn't translate well in the other countries they are trying. It's wild how out of touch these people are.

And that's not the only thing. Im from Spain and some friends were going to watch the show out of curiosity cause Logan was there. They left in episode 2 cause, for understanding dinamics and relationshps, you have to be invested on prior seasons, relationships....

If you want to expand it outside, the WOTW tournament is a great idea, but putting international players randomly is not gonna get engagement.

I also think casting some many international is hurting the ratings because there is a major disconnect between the viewers and those cast members. We don't know them , we don't understand them , and we don't have anything in common with them which make the show unappealing to watch.

And that's not the only thing. Im from Spain and some friends were going to watch the show out of curiosity cause Logan was there. They left in episode 2 cause, for understanding dinamics and relationshps, you have to be invested on prior seasons, relationships....

If you want to expand it outside, the WOTW tournament is a great idea, but putting international players randomly is not gonna get engagement.

This! It's like bringing a show after 20 seasons from another country with an assemble cast & just snooki in the mix thinking we are going to watch because she is on. When we don't know the other people , the format for us would be weird to get into and the translation is horrendous. 

Like I wrote before the America version doesn't work in other countries the ratings and engagement of it doesn't lie. In order for this to work they need to adapt the format and cast for that country or region specifically,  if not it will end miserably like it has whenever they air our version there & no one watches.

 

They alt Jenny for being boring (rightfully) but Kaycee is the greatest casting? Lol 

Because kaycee is a double minority. I just dont understand why they praise kaycee to the heavens yet sideline amber and act like she doesnt exist when she was the first black person to win the show in like 15 years. Plus even amber's "boring" *** contributes, it was pretty much the amber show in the first half of spies lies and allies. Kaycee brings nothing but they are too lazy to try to find another asian female just like production apparently loves snoozefest nam vo and dont want to branch out and find another asian man.

Derek X from BB23 can be the new token Asian.

For international they'd need seperate shows entirely catering to each dynamic. Then maybe they can integrate them or have crossovers. The show doesn't do well in other countries, and they're just damaging the Americam fan base.

That being said was there a CBS show that was doing international versions and just that?

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