The Challenge: CBS Early Speculation- Paramount+

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I'm just impressed most people here seem to think Maggie played a great game because often people claim she sucked

I'm not a casual fan when it comes to RTV, lol. Casual fans will think Maggie sucked because she didn't win competitions but Maggie ran a incredibly tight ship. 

She did--she was the ring leader and used shields much like Jun (who is also high underrated)

People seem to like people that actually suck at the game but win comps to save themselves.  It's why Derrick's game was so amazing.  

Jun played the floater game so well between alliances along with Allison, that after her season it became impossible to do what she did

For me the best winners are Jun, Dan, Maggie, Derrick, Andy and maybe Hayden.

I can barely remember what happened after 16 though

For me the best winners are Jun, Dan, Maggie, Derrick, Andy and maybe Hayden.

I can barely remember what happened after 16 though

I would had Cody who played an amazing game on 22 despite the season being terrible, and trade Andy with Will but other than that totally agreed

I would give Cody more credit if it wasn't for the foundation of his game already being laid out for him by Dan & Derrick.

 

For me the best winners are Jun, Dan, Maggie, Derrick, Andy and maybe Hayden.

I can barely remember what happened after 16 though

I would had Cody who played an amazing game on 22 despite the season being terrible, and trade Andy with Will but other than that totally agreed

I didn't include Will because I started at season 3 but yea I know he is up there too

is kaycee in the top 10?

is kaycee in the top 10?

I wouldn't even say she is top two of her season honestly, i would say she is a low tier winner, like Josh

I forgot all about Xavier and Cody just that fast lmaoooo but they would be in top 10

Hoping my queens Tori, Natalie Negrotti and Jennie got calls

is kaycee in the top 10?

no

is kaycee in the top 10?

had one of the best social games if shes not in the top 10 definitely top 20

 

is kaycee in the top 10?

had one of the best social games if shes not in the top 10 definitely top 20

Top 20 all-time players of Big Brother? No

She won due to a bitter jury, Tyler and J.C were clearly the better players that season, she played a good under the radar game but almost every season of Big Brother has at least 2 players better than her

Top 20 winners? Possibly, she played better than Josh and Jordan.. And possibly Jackson and Adam, don't really remember bb9, hated the season

 

 

is kaycee in the top 10?

had one of the best social games if shes not in the top 10 definitely top 20

Top 20 all-time players of Big Brother? No

She won due to a bitter jury, Tyler and J.C were clearly the better players that season, she played a good under the radar game but almost every season of Big Brother has at least 2 players better than her

Top 20 winners? Possibly, she played better than Josh and Jordan.. And possibly Jackson and Adam, don't really remember bb9, hated the season

You said Rachel R was a top 10 player...enough. You also said Paul was a better player than Nicole when he quite literally lost to her because he can't manage a jury to save his life. 

 

 

 

is kaycee in the top 10?

had one of the best social games if shes not in the top 10 definitely top 20

Top 20 all-time players of Big Brother? No

She won due to a bitter jury, Tyler and J.C were clearly the better players that season, she played a good under the radar game but almost every season of Big Brother has at least 2 players better than her

Top 20 winners? Possibly, she played better than Josh and Jordan.. And possibly Jackson and Adam, don't really remember bb9, hated the season

You said Rachel R was a top 10 player...enough. You also said Paul was a better player than Nicole when he quite literally lost to her because he can't manage a jury to save his life. 

 

And Paul is overall a better player than both Nicole and Kaycee he played two amazing games and lost because because he couldn't own his game only. Kaycee literally won because Scotty wanted to be looked cool by the fandom for not giving the "Paul type character the win", because Sam thought she needed the money more, because Rockstar wanted to give the win to a woman and because Fessy was bitter, the only vote she got due to her "amazing social game" was Bay, and she probably was bitter with Tyler too,not to mention that none of the members of her alliance voted for her to win

Imagine if EvelDick and Corinne were on tv today, this softass generation would die.

 

 

 

is kaycee in the top 10?

had one of the best social games if shes not in the top 10 definitely top 20

Top 20 all-time players of Big Brother? No

She won due to a bitter jury, Tyler and J.C were clearly the better players that season, she played a good under the radar game but almost every season of Big Brother has at least 2 players better than her

Top 20 winners? Possibly, she played better than Josh and Jordan.. And possibly Jackson and Adam, don't really remember bb9, hated the season

You said Rachel R was a top 10 player...enough. You also said Paul was a better player than Nicole when he quite literally lost to her because he can't manage a jury to save his life. 

I said Rachel R. was a better player than Nicole, didn't say she was top 10,that list had at least 12 names

 

 

 

 

is kaycee in the top 10?

had one of the best social games if shes not in the top 10 definitely top 20

Top 20 all-time players of Big Brother? No

She won due to a bitter jury, Tyler and J.C were clearly the better players that season, she played a good under the radar game but almost every season of Big Brother has at least 2 players better than her

Top 20 winners? Possibly, she played better than Josh and Jordan.. And possibly Jackson and Adam, don't really remember bb9, hated the season

You said Rachel R was a top 10 player...enough. You also said Paul was a better player than Nicole when he quite literally lost to her because he can't manage a jury to save his life. 

And Paul is overall a better player than both Nicole and Kaycee he played two amazing games and lost because because he couldn't own his game only. Kaycee literally won because Scotty wanted to be looked cool by the fandom for not giving the "Paul type character the win", because Sam thought she needed the money more, because Rockstar wanted to give the win to a woman and because Fessy was bitter, the only vote she got due to her "amazing social game" was Bay, and she probably was bitter with Tyler too,not to mention that none of the members of her alliance voted for her to win

Paul might be a flashier player but that doesn't mean he's a better player ... he had production on his side giving him so many advantages and 3 weeks of safety and he still couldn't take the W. Kaycee had an amazing social game and was never targeted all season ...that's impressive. 

Rachel nor Paul are close to Nicole.  

 

 

 

 

 

is kaycee in the top 10?

had one of the best social games if shes not in the top 10 definitely top 20

Top 20 all-time players of Big Brother? No

She won due to a bitter jury, Tyler and J.C were clearly the better players that season, she played a good under the radar game but almost every season of Big Brother has at least 2 players better than her

Top 20 winners? Possibly, she played better than Josh and Jordan.. And possibly Jackson and Adam, don't really remember bb9, hated the season

You said Rachel R was a top 10 player...enough. You also said Paul was a better player than Nicole when he quite literally lost to her because he can't manage a jury to save his life. 

And Paul is overall a better player than both Nicole and Kaycee he played two amazing games and lost because because he couldn't own his game only. Kaycee literally won because Scotty wanted to be looked cool by the fandom for not giving the "Paul type character the win", because Sam thought she needed the money more, because Rockstar wanted to give the win to a woman and because Fessy was bitter, the only vote she got due to her "amazing social game" was Bay, and she probably was bitter with Tyler too,not to mention that none of the members of her alliance voted for her to win

Paul might be a flashier player but that doesn't mean he's a better player ... he had production on his side giving him so many advantages and 3 weeks of safety and he still couldn't take the W. Kaycee had an amazing social game and was never targeted all season ...that's impressive. 

If there is no hacker twist she posibly goes home on Haleigh's HoH, Tyler had a better relationship inside the house with most of the houseguests, she literally won because she did nothing other than winning comps

anyways i don't wanna be one of those people that goes back and forth so we'll agree to disagree lol so what do we think this will be? Kinda seems like it's all stars but with CBS all stars as well? 

Rachel nor Paul are close to Nicole.  

This. Anyone who thinks so is out of their tree but.. I can't get into these long paragraph, "state my opinion as a fact" disagreements lol.

I'm really ducking pissed they're potentially interesting in Derek F. Guy is a fame ***** who can't do a damn think physically, and thinks he's God's gift to the earth. 

anyways i don't wanna be one of those people that goes back and forth so we'll agree to disagree lol so what do we think this will be? Kinda seems like it's all stars but with CBS all stars as well? 

Agree with that!

Hoping that it like that kind of an all-star season with easier challenges and a couple of reality stars favourites like Parvati, Cirie etc. Against some old-school challengers

Nicole is one of the shows worst winners strategically and socially. Will not debate this.

Still a winner giggles

Nicole is one of the shows worst winners strategically and socially. Will not debate this.

lol

Still a winner giggles

Touche lol.

They're gonna bring derek f on this or the challenge just to **** us off. I just know it lol

#bringHaleightoTheChallenge

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