There are other vets that can be brought back besides these absolute disasters. But yes, I'd rather have a whole new cast because if it's a SLA repeat I will not be watching. It shouldn't be random people though; it should be a mix of BBCan, BBUS, Survivor, Australian Survivor, and Love Island.
There are other vets that can be brought back besides these absolute disasters. But yes, I'd rather have a whole new cast because if it's a SLA repeat I will not be watching. It shouldn't be random people though; it should be a mix of BBCan, BBUS, Survivor, Australian Survivor, and Love Island.
You and I both know that isn't happening. It will be random people and then they lose the small loyal fan base that still watch. The show always had regulars--they just had more so they could break them up a bit. "Best" case is you see John, Wes, Cara, etc with people they find on youtube
You and I both know that isn't happening. It will be random people and then they lose the small loyal fan base that still watch. The show always had regulars--they just had more so they could break them up a bit. "Best" case is you see John, Wes, Cara, etc with people they find on youtube
1) I didn't say it will happen, I said it should. We all know Skye and company is too incompetent to make smart decisions. 2) I don't need you to educate me on the history of the show. I know they need regular vets but Escort, Kasi, Devyn, J*sh, and Nany aren't it.
Speaking of that final, the scenes where they were saying the codes out loud looked heavily edited for me, to make it seem like a photo finish or something, I doubt CT & Kaycee really got it wrong 3 times.
I mean Georgia and Rogan were getting annoying anyway.
AF. The only reason I liked Dee was because atleast on total madness she went against the main alliance. She was never gonna be socially likeable enough to have fake beef even though she was trying to. I think she wouldve made these last 2 seasons super entertaining
You and I both know that isn't happening. It will be random people and then they lose the small loyal fan base that still watch. The show always had regulars--they just had more so they could break them up a bit. "Best" case is you see John, Wes, Cara, etc with people they find on youtube
1) I didn't say it will happen, I said it should. We all know Skye and company is too incompetent to make smart decisions. 2) I don't need you to educate me on the history of the show. I know they need regular vets but Escort, Kasi, Devyn, J*sh, and Nany aren't it.
Of the people you mentioned only Josh is a problem
these shows used to have barely any rookies on them, now it's constantly 50% of the cast?? Why?
The format for SLA was fine, it was the cast that ruined it.
Because they don't cost anything, A lot of these internationals think being on American TV is the dream and would pretty much do it for free just for the exposure, not to mention the exchange rates of these countries is ridiculous. A quick google search shows a decent monthly salary in Romania is equivalent to about $700 USD, so you pay them 3 or 4 grand US and they're probably more than happy
Holy **** was that final challenge underwhelming. CT and Amber's win last season was way more emotional than the blue balling that we got this season. Also could they get those lame looking safes off my face already? They look like some half assed props straight out of a kindergarten play.
Anyways, glad CT won, Bananas' money won record BTFO, love to see it ****. Cogratiluations to KC too the 2nd BB to get a win. Man BB is crushing Survivor this thing.
Kyle leggit made me laugh when he said that he'll name his kid "CT" instead of something like Christopher lol
Because they don't cost anything, A lot of these internationals think being on American TV is the dream and would pretty much do it for free just for the exposure, not to mention the exchange rates of these countries is ridiculous. A quick google search shows a decent monthly salary in Romania is equivalent to about $700 USD, so you pay them 3 or 4 grand US and they're probably more than happy
They tried it though and it didn't work. The internationals didn't connect with the audience. They just hand the game to the vets, they didn't play. It doesn't make good tv. If they want to be cheap, they won't have a show much longer.
Because they don't cost anything, A lot of these internationals think being on American TV is the dream and would pretty much do it for free just for the exposure, not to mention the exchange rates of these countries is ridiculous. A quick google search shows a decent monthly salary in Romania is equivalent to about $700 USD, so you pay them 3 or 4 grand US and they're probably more than happy
They tried it though and it didn't work. The internationals didn't connect with the audience. They just hand the game to the vets, they didn't play. It doesn't make good tv. If they want to be cheap, they won't have a show much longer.
Are we sure the fans don't like the game being handed to the vets? I mean, we don't but the casual fans. .
Still the best rated show on MTV right? I hate what they're doing to it but it's not getting canceled
The casuals don't like the current vets as a whole, no one does. CT is the only one they love. This seasons ratings were not good, it saw a big drop from DA. The drop was because they brought back all the unlikable vets and tons of new rookies that the audience didn't know or care to know. And they predictably all flopped minus Michaela. You can play devils advocate all you want, but we both know the casting is beyond tragic.
The casuals don't like the current vets as a whole, no one does. CT is the only one they love. This seasons ratings were not good, it saw a big drop from DA. The drop was because they brought back all the unlikable vets and tons of new rookies that the audience didn't know or care to know. And they predictably all flopped minus Michaela. You can play devils advocate all you want, but we both know the casting is beyond tragic.
We agree 100% about casting. We disagree that this will get the show canceled. At the very least if CT makes the cast and gets a free ride to the final I think the casuals are generally happy.
You are probably right about cancellation. They have no other content and the network is a giant joke as a whole. But 90 minute episodes for 20 straight weeks of boring content and an unlikable cast also can't go on forever.
This season had the most amount of least watched episodes ever so it's clear they need a Shakeup. First step is not casting 20 international rookies that the American audience don't know or give a shit about.
Aren't ratings down for every show? Comparing it to past seasons doesn't make sense when their target audience generally speaking doesn't watch live tv
Aren't ratings down for every show? Comparing it to past seasons doesn't make sense when their target audience generally speaking doesn't watch live tv
It does make sense comparing it to last season. A couple hundred thousand people didn't realize in a couple months that they could dvr it. Survivor and BB are consistent with their previous season ratings. But you already know all this, this is you baiting a fight lol. Have a good day KVM.
Aren't ratings down for every show? Comparing it to past seasons doesn't make sense when their target audience generally speaking doesn't watch live tv
It does make sense comparing it to last season. A couple hundred thousand people didn't realize in a couple months that they could dvr it. Survivor and BB are consistent with their previous season ratings. But you already know all this, this is you baiting a fight lol. Have a good day KVM.
Survivor lost over a million viewers from the finale of 40 to the finale of 41--granted that was more than a few months but that's still a big hit
BB lost 400k from the 22 finale to the 23 finale
The Challenge lost about 250k
Seems pretty consistently--but you're still taking this as though the show doensn't have issues. The point is that it's stil doing fine even though there's a ton of issues.
The drop from Double Agents to SLA was enormous just ONE SEASON AGO. The fans have spoken and we hate this garbage. They bring back 50% of more international rookies or even random *** US rookies (12 days of Christmas?!?!) and they are just self sabotaging their show on purpose at this point
I mean Georgia and Rogan were getting annoying anyway.
Id take them both without question next season over any 37 vet besides Amanda
There are other vets that can be brought back besides these absolute disasters. But yes, I'd rather have a whole new cast because if it's a SLA repeat I will not be watching. It shouldn't be random people though; it should be a mix of BBCan, BBUS, Survivor, Australian Survivor, and Love Island.
You and I both know that isn't happening. It will be random people and then they lose the small loyal fan base that still watch. The show always had regulars--they just had more so they could break them up a bit. "Best" case is you see John, Wes, Cara, etc with people they find on youtube
1) I didn't say it will happen, I said it should. We all know Skye and company is too incompetent to make smart decisions. 2) I don't need you to educate me on the history of the show. I know they need regular vets but Escort, Kasi, Devyn, J*sh, and Nany aren't it.
You show time and time again that you don't understand what makes good tv.
Speaking of that final, the scenes where they were saying the codes out loud looked heavily edited for me, to make it seem like a photo finish or something, I doubt CT & Kaycee really got it wrong 3 times.
AF. The only reason I liked Dee was because atleast on total madness she went against the main alliance. She was never gonna be socially likeable enough to have fake beef even though she was trying to. I think she wouldve made these last 2 seasons super entertaining
Of the people you mentioned only Josh is a problem
Rogan was getting annoying? Huh....
what if this season was all vets and no rookies?
these shows used to have barely any rookies on them, now it's constantly 50% of the cast?? Why?
The format for SLA was fine, it was the cast that ruined it.
Deserves to be treated like all the other women considered liabilities to run a final with.
Because they don't cost anything, A lot of these internationals think being on American TV is the dream and would pretty much do it for free just for the exposure, not to mention the exchange rates of these countries is ridiculous. A quick google search shows a decent monthly salary in Romania is equivalent to about $700 USD, so you pay them 3 or 4 grand US and they're probably more than happy
Holy **** was that final challenge underwhelming. CT and Amber's win last season was way more emotional than the blue balling that we got this season. Also could they get those lame looking safes off my face already? They look like some half assed props straight out of a kindergarten play.
Anyways, glad CT won, Bananas' money won record BTFO, love to see it ****. Cogratiluations to KC too the 2nd BB to get a win. Man BB is crushing Survivor this thing.
Kyle leggit made me laugh when he said that he'll name his kid "CT" instead of something like Christopher lol
They tried it though and it didn't work. The internationals didn't connect with the audience. They just hand the game to the vets, they didn't play. It doesn't make good tv. If they want to be cheap, they won't have a show much longer.
Are we sure the fans don't like the game being handed to the vets? I mean, we don't but the casual fans. .
Still the best rated show on MTV right? I hate what they're doing to it but it's not getting canceled
The casuals don't like the current vets as a whole, no one does. CT is the only one they love. This seasons ratings were not good, it saw a big drop from DA. The drop was because they brought back all the unlikable vets and tons of new rookies that the audience didn't know or care to know. And they predictably all flopped minus Michaela. You can play devils advocate all you want, but we both know the casting is beyond tragic.
We agree 100% about casting. We disagree that this will get the show canceled. At the very least if CT makes the cast and gets a free ride to the final I think the casuals are generally happy.
You are probably right about cancellation. They have no other content and the network is a giant joke as a whole. But 90 minute episodes for 20 straight weeks of boring content and an unlikable cast also can't go on forever.
This season had the most amount of least watched episodes ever so it's clear they need a Shakeup. First step is not casting 20 international rookies that the American audience don't know or give a shit about.
Replace the vets with less awful ones, shortee filming time with less episodes, and bring back the drama.
Aren't ratings down for every show? Comparing it to past seasons doesn't make sense when their target audience generally speaking doesn't watch live tv
It does make sense comparing it to last season. A couple hundred thousand people didn't realize in a couple months that they could dvr it. Survivor and BB are consistent with their previous season ratings. But you already know all this, this is you baiting a fight lol. Have a good day KVM.
I thought filming for season 38 starts In January ?
Survivor lost over a million viewers from the finale of 40 to the finale of 41--granted that was more than a few months but that's still a big hit
BB lost 400k from the 22 finale to the 23 finale
The Challenge lost about 250k
Seems pretty consistently--but you're still taking this as though the show doensn't have issues. The point is that it's stil doing fine even though there's a ton of issues.
The drop from Double Agents to SLA was enormous just ONE SEASON AGO. The fans have spoken and we hate this garbage. They bring back 50% of more international rookies or even random *** US rookies (12 days of Christmas?!?!) and they are just self sabotaging their show on purpose at this point
call me crazy but i think production will just pretend this season never happened and only bring back like emy and michaela hopefully
they bring back some legendary all stars w some bb/survivor people and the show will be just fine
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