The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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Say what you will about Cara but 90% of the time drama involving her is actually authentic. That along with her probably targeting Devin Josh and Tori we should be celebrating

The last people that she should be enemies with are those 3 people lol, those 3 with their social games have the potential to steamroll their oppossition in any season.

really want cara so kyle can stop making it so far. time for his flop era againn

wait ... if we get cara and kam next season issa wrap

really want cara so kyle can stop making it so far. time for his flop era againn

At the peak of their rivalry Kyle had one of his best seasons lol, I want Cara back for the mess too but let's not overrate her.

Cara without Paulie please. I can't take them together.

The regular vets on now all hate her guts, but then she's used to an entire house hating her.

 

 

Say what you will about Cara but 90% of the time drama involving her is actually authentic. That along with her probably targeting Devin Josh and Tori we should be celebrating

The last people that she should be enemies with are those 3 people lol, those 3 with their social games have the potential to steamroll their oppossition in any season.

cara has outlasted devin josh and tori in literally every single season she's been on with any of them. Multiple of those seasons having some sort of combination out of the 3. I'm sure she'll be fine unless she absolutely ***** up an elimination.

MTV realized that Kaycee doesn't need to ever win again 

I'm going to be mad if Darrell isn't on next season!!

There should be at least 3-4 all stars contestants on the main show at worse. I would think paramount would tell them that for synergy 

 

 

 

Say what you will about Cara but 90% of the time drama involving her is actually authentic. That along with her probably targeting Devin Josh and Tori we should be celebrating

The last people that she should be enemies with are those 3 people lol, those 3 with their social games have the potential to steamroll their oppossition in any season.

cara has outlasted devin josh and tori in literally every single season she's been on with any of them. Multiple of those seasons having some sort of combination out of the 3. I'm sure she'll be fine unless she absolutely ***** up an elimination.

Its a different climate now, Cara has way less pull than before, and Tori and Kaycee can handle her in elimination. Her only hope is to have Paulie on the cast too since he's a much better politician than Cara. 

Why does Casey wear the same clothes in all her confessionals? Like switch up the look. It's like her goal is to be boring in EVERY way possible.

 

 

 

 

Say what you will about Cara but 90% of the time drama involving her is actually authentic. That along with her probably targeting Devin Josh and Tori we should be celebrating

The last people that she should be enemies with are those 3 people lol, those 3 with their social games have the potential to steamroll their oppossition in any season.

cara has outlasted devin josh and tori in literally every single season she's been on with any of them. Multiple of those seasons having some sort of combination out of the 3. I'm sure she'll be fine unless she absolutely ***** up an elimination.

Its a different climate now, Cara has way less pull than before, and Tori and Kaycee can handle her in elimination. Her only hope is to have Paulie on the cast too since he's a much better politician than Cara. 

Kaycee maybe, Tori I doubt

Cara can come, Paulie can come, just do not cast 50% boring rookies like last season!! We do not care!!!!

im begging you. This was the first season I only watched like 2-3 episodes of... since bloodlines. They have another shit season like this it's seriously going to be on the hot seat 

one bad season is fine, two in a row awful casting seasons and people are going to think that's just how the show is now 

 

 

I stand by what i said, Zach might be a mysoginist pig, and a ****** but he had the best male confessionals of this show 

Zach had somee good humor in his conffessionals. 

And he was funny even when he was dry, and he didn't need to do to much like the Nelson's and Kyle's of this life

I mean this is like people praising Jordan for being one of the best competitors on the show.

Like yes, AND? It doesn't excuse his behavior at all. One positive aspect of someone isn't enough to make up for his disgusting behavior. The trash can stay gone. But they won't because MTV forgives men more than women.

It's sad, but we need Cara's cult back to end the current vets dominance.

Some BB23 people signed contracts for something The Challenge related, I'm pretty sure Kyland is one of them

It's sad, but we need Cara's cult back to end the current vets dominance.

Natalie and Paulie can can stay home.

It's sad, but we need Cara's cult back to end the current vets dominance.

Missing them, except Natalie

 

 

 

I stand by what i said, Zach might be a mysoginist pig, and a ****** but he had the best male confessionals of this show 

Zach had somee good humor in his conffessionals. 

And he was funny even when he was dry, and he didn't need to do to much like the Nelson's and Kyle's of this life

I mean this is like people praising Jordan for being one of the best competitors on the show.

Like yes, AND? It doesn't excuse his behavior at all. One positive aspect of someone isn't enough to make up for his disgusting behavior. The trash can stay gone. But they won't because MTV forgives men more than women.

I don't actually really like Jordan at all but can someone fill me in on what he did that was racist? I'm not being facetious I genuinely don't know/must have missed it. I haven't seen Rivals 1, Battle of The Exes & Battle of the Seasons (seen everything before then from The Inferno 2 if anyone can HMU with a link to those 3 seasons I'd be grateful) so it might have been in there.

I think he's a **** but I definitely must have missed the racist part?

kyland can do the spinoff, not the main show 

Jordans racist because his behavior from the real world, see links for clips 

https://twitter.com/malik_mtv/status/1270733310382280705?s=21

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https://streamable.com/si5rqu

https://streamable.com/kzmlu1

 

 

 

It's sad, but we need Cara's cult back to end the current vets dominance.

Missing them, except Natalie

Natalia Ninja was the troll of all trolls. She pissed everyone (fans and cast) off by just existing LOVED her

Jordans racist because his behavior from the real world, see links for clips 

https://twitter.com/malik_mtv/status/1270733310382280705?s=21

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https://streamable.com/si5rqu

https://streamable.com/kzmlu1

 

 

Wow. Absolute trash. Had never seen this before. I never liked him before seeing this I don't like him even more now. What a pig. Have never been a fan of cancel culture when it's not deserved and I do think several things are misconstrued heavily and several people do make seemingly innocent mistakes but that's just gross. So glad I've seen this as it just confirms what I thought about Jordan anyway. I hate him even more now. Ergh

Jordan hate is understandable. Just keep that same energy. Cara has also called a black person a monkey & supported white supremacists & blue lives matter. 

LMAO I forgot how universally hated Ninja was and Zach's foot was on her neck all season

Jordan hate is understandable. Just keep that same energy. Cara has also called a black person a monkey & supported white supremacists & blue lives matter. 

This might be something I need to see too... I used to like Cara, have been indifferent/not liked her in recent seasons but this could be a complete game changer...

LMAO I forgot how universally hated Ninja was and Zach's foot was on her neck all season

Anyone who has Zach fuming is excellent tv in my book

LMAO I forgot how universally hated Ninja was and Zach's foot was on her neck all season

The only time Zach has ever been even close to funny or entertaining was when he was shit talking Ninja Turtle.

Some BB23 people signed contracts for something The Challenge related, I'm pretty sure Kyland is one of them

Kyland was an obvious choice with his big ego and messy delusional self. Lets hope hes ends up being the only one because I dont see anyone else that would provide more than him

I'm really bummed that Tori lost. She really deserves that win and seriously got robbed of another W like wotw2 once again. She should be a 2x champ by now.

I'm really bummed that Tori lost. She really deserves that win and seriously got robbed of another W like wotw2 once again. She should be a 2x champ by now.

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