The Challenge: All Stars - Season 3 (Spoilers Discussion)

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KVM's *** got on here calling someone else condescending and rude LMAO pot meet kettle

KVM: cancel culture sucks. Also KVM: Tori sucks for her past actions. 

Make. It. Make. Sense. 

What?  I didn't say cancel Tori.  I said she sucks as a person.  Lots of people that have been "canceled" suck as people but they should be "canceled"--see Jon Gruden

Lol Kvm keep doing that, you act like a know it all and your opinion is allways the right oje just shows your extreme ignorance about people behaviour and personality, and stop making it about you saying people attack you. 

Tori had 23 years the last time she appeared on TV, like 10 years ago and like everyone in this world she as virtues and flaws, and none of those flaws were enough to call her a bad person, 10 years have passed since then she has grown up and i can see the love she has for her kids and how is she behaves in real life, i trust much more in what i see than in your opinion from a person 10 years ago

People don't change--All Stars has proved that.   

Roni <3

Let's go Kailah and Nia 

There are aspects of people's personality that makes them who they are, sometimes good, sometimes bad. But change is literally an ever constant thing. We can get angry at the same things, but we can change how we react to them. But changing your overall/general behavior is not negated by moments in which you go back to behaviors you thought you were past. I don't know what kvm means when *he* says change, but it sounds like his definition of change is different than a lot of people's more nuanced understanding of it.  You'll always be you...so in a sense, kvm is right. But "you" is composed of about a million different things, thoughts, feelings, actions and reactions. And people can certainly change many of these things. And depending on if you want to be a pedantic ***** that nobody likes or if you're more capable of understanding the complexity of human beings, then the statement "people don't change can" can be true or false.

 

So yeah, Nia might still be Nia in that she can be a mean person ( i don't know this myself, just as an example). But I bet she won't sexually assault someone this season. That's literally change lol

While we might not all be happy with this cast, I'll at least admit that the eliminations are probably the most interesting of any of the All Stars seasons. And yes I say that having not seen All Stars 2, yet, but these eliminations seem more dramatic. I'm basing that on my intuition and nothing else so please don’t call me out.  

also I'm probably in the minority here but I'm hoping for a KellyAnne win with this one. Not sure who I want for the guys yet since my favorites are out already. 

KVM do you think you are a good person?

KVM do you think you are a good person?

That's for others to determine but I also, unlike many, don't care what anyone here believes. 

Listen the fact someone just stated that if Nia doesn't sexually assault someone she's changed proves how clueless do many are. Change is permanent not temporary.  Change can't occur in adults. All they can do is remove the temptation.  See Paula.  

I think everyone has the potential to be a good person.

Change is such a loose term, people change parts of themselves but other parts MIGHT always stay the same. Life experiences change people. 

Change is such a loose term, people change parts of themselves but other parts always stay the same. Life experiences change people. 

I am glad you and KVM believe the same thing. I want both of you to thrive.

What a boring topic to harp on. I'm sleep

Change is such a loose term, people change parts of themselves but other parts always stay the same. Life experiences change people. 

They don't. Not after a certain age.  Adults are incapable of changing who they are. Life experiences can cause you to be more or less of who you naturally are over fear or desire but you don't change. 

What a boring topic to harp on. I'm sleep

lmao. 

Anyway done listening to condescending KVTori try and act like it's all-knowing.

What do we think Veronica and Nia's relationship is like?

So.... All Stars 3, y'all. 

???? i almost responded seriously 

Change is such a loose term, people change parts of themselves but other parts MIGHT always stay the same. Life experiences change people. 

 

Change is such a loose term, people change parts of themselves but other parts MIGHT always stay the same. Life experiences change people. 

No. It is a scientific fact that change is not a thing. It was made up by some guy in the 50s

 

Lol Kvm keep doing that, you act like a know it all and your opinion is allways the right oje just shows your extreme ignorance about people behaviour and personality, and stop making it about you saying people attack you. 

Tori had 23 years the last time she appeared on TV, like 10 years ago and like everyone in this world she as virtues and flaws, and none of those flaws were enough to call her a bad person, 10 years have passed since then she has grown up and i can see the love she has for her kids and how is she behaves in real life, i trust much more in what i see than in your opinion from a person 10 years ago

People don't change--All Stars has proved that.   

People do change you can saynehat you want, im not the same person i was ten years ago if you are you have a really big problem, even so Toru didn't need to change l, she was not a bad person back in the day, having flaws don't make you a bad person, only a person that has little understanding of human personality can say that, go watch some documentaries on the matter

Change is such a loose term, people change parts of themselves but other parts MIGHT always stay the same. Life experiences change people. 

No. It is a scientific fact that change is not a thing. It was made up by some guy in the 50s

Now we also know you can't do simple math

 

Change is such a loose term, people change parts of themselves but other parts MIGHT always stay the same. Life experiences change people. 

No. It is a scientific fact that change is not a thing. It was made up by some guy in the 50s

Now we also know you can't do simple math

sorry i always get my years wrong

Lol Kvm keep doing that, you act like a know it all and your opinion is allways the right oje just shows your extreme ignorance about people behaviour and personality, and stop making it about you saying people attack you. 

Tori had 23 years the last time she appeared on TV, like 10 years ago and like everyone in this world she as virtues and flaws, and none of those flaws were enough to call her a bad person, 10 years have passed since then she has grown up and i can see the love she has for her kids and how is she behaves in real life, i trust much more in what i see than in your opinion from a person 10 years ago

People don't change--All Stars has proved that.   

People do change you can saynehat you want, im not the same person i was ten years ago if you are you have a really big problem, even so Toru didn't need to change l, she was not a bad person back in the day, having flaws don't make you a bad person, only a person that has little understanding of human personality can say that, go watch some documentaries on the matter

You are the same you were unless you were younger than 17 ten year ago.  Watch this shows--people don't change.  They simply take away the temptation.  People are who they are--you just want to believe people change because you want to believe you aren't the same person that you were when you know you are.

 

 

Change is such a loose term, people change parts of themselves but other parts MIGHT always stay the same. Life experiences change people. 

No. It is a scientific fact that change is not a thing. It was made up by some guy in the 50s

Experiences make people change interactions with others make people change, of course your character doesnt shift 100% but there are shifts in personality 

giggles

Shut up this is a reality show spoiler thread not a psychology class taught by a commumity college professor who couldn't get hired at a university.

 

Lol Kvm keep doing that, you act like a know it all and your opinion is allways the right oje just shows your extreme ignorance about people behaviour and personality, and stop making it about you saying people attack you. 

Tori had 23 years the last time she appeared on TV, like 10 years ago and like everyone in this world she as virtues and flaws, and none of those flaws were enough to call her a bad person, 10 years have passed since then she has grown up and i can see the love she has for her kids and how is she behaves in real life, i trust much more in what i see than in your opinion from a person 10 years ago

People don't change--All Stars has proved that.   

People do change you can saynehat you want, im not the same person i was ten years ago if you are you have a really big problem, even so Toru didn't need to change l, she was not a bad person back in the day, having flaws don't make you a bad person, only a person that has little understanding of human personality can say that, go watch some documentaries on the matter

You are the same you were unless you were younger than 17 ten year ago.  Watch this shows--people don't change.  They simply take away the temptation.  People are who they are--you just want to believe people change because you want to believe you aren't the same person that you were when you know you are.

It shows a lot about you that the thing you use to say people change or not is a scripted reality show, it shows you clearly have a lack of real human relationships, again clearly there is something wrong with you, probably you are a sociopath or you lack contact with real people. My father death changed me for example, im not the same person i was before that, having to change country also changed

It shows a lot about you that the thing you use to say people change or not is a scripted reality show, it shows you clearly have a lack of real human relationships, again clearly there is something wrong with you, probably you are a sociopath or you lack contact with real people. My father death changed me for example, im not the same person i was before that, having to change country also changed

It didn't change you--again, you want to believe it did.  My condolences for your loss but you didn't change.  No one ever does.  

Also, notice you said "change country" meaning you altered the surroundings/temptation not who you are.

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