Ranking the remaining girls based on likelihood to win (considering Politics & Ability to win reach & win a final). Im going to not rank Roni since I havent seen any of her seasons.
this also really varies depending on the format (if its individual, i dont have hope in KellyAnne to solve puzzles, and Kailah is much lower too, but if its paired, any of them have a chance except Tina id say)
KA is good enough in puzzles. Def above average. Kailah is average/slightly below average in puzzles
agreed with this order though
Yeah I dont think so. Kellyanne completely flopped in both of the puzzles in the S1 final and Kailah lost to Kyle in a memory game.
she did fine in the ruins final and solved some of those puzzles. She's average at worst. She'd be fine in puzzles in finals, she's no Nicole Z/Cory/Derrick etc where their whole final could go out the door based on a puzzle
Ranking the remaining girls based on likelihood to win (considering Politics & Ability to win reach & win a final). Im going to not rank Roni since I havent seen any of her seasons.
this also really varies depending on the format (if its individual, i dont have hope in KellyAnne to solve puzzles, and Kailah is much lower too, but if its paired, any of them have a chance except Tina id say)
KA is good enough in puzzles. Def above average. Kailah is average/slightly below average in puzzles
agreed with this order though
Yeah I dont think so. Kellyanne completely flopped in both of the puzzles in the S1 final and Kailah lost to Kyle in a memory game.
she did fine in the ruins final and solved some of those puzzles. She's average at worst. She'd be fine in puzzles in finals, she's no Nicole Z/Cory/Derrick etc where their whole final could go out the door based on a puzzle
KellyAnne's a great partner because she take direction well and will literally do anything (kind of like Jenna but I feel like she can eat or could back in the day) but I don't remember her ever doing well on a puzzle. She was almost as clueless as Derrick on the final puzzle on The Ruins final lol. But, yeah, realistically she's not on the pathetic level of Nicole Z/Cory. I feel like even Derrick is better than them lol
Ranking the remaining girls based on likelihood to win (considering Politics & Ability to win reach & win a final). Im going to not rank Roni since I havent seen any of her seasons.
this also really varies depending on the format (if its individual, i dont have hope in KellyAnne to solve puzzles, and Kailah is much lower too, but if its paired, any of them have a chance except Tina id say)
I feel like Tina's definitely last but other than that anything could happen--which is why i really love this cast. The men all can beat each other and the politics for the women should be awesome. Until Jemmye's name pops up though I'm thinking she's a lock for the final but who know the format.
the only reason Jemmye's "politics" work are that she's so weak that the group that normally would target her (in this case primarily KA and Kendal most likely) know she's so weak that she's essentially a nonfactor. Bigger fish to fry for them so why go for her when she has 0.00000001% chance of winning this?
Fair enough but Jemmye does play a really good game. I really can't remember her ever being a target (maybe Rivals 2). She's always made it far unless she came in last.
If she was a better athlete she'd be targeted but she's the worst in her alliance (probably Kailah and V, maybe others) so there's no reason to target her over them. If you're the worst person there of course people won't target you. Her politics are so overrated IMO
If she was a better athlete she'd be targeted but she's the worst in her alliance (probably Kailah and V, maybe others) so there's no reason to target her over them. If you're the worst person there of course people won't target you. Her politics are so overrated IMO
I disagree with you here. Jemmye plays a good strategic game. Is she Susie or Emily Bailey? No. But she's really, really good. She gets the game and manipulates people very well. She also recovers from mistakes better than most.
Ranking the remaining girls based on likelihood to win (considering Politics & Ability to win reach & win a final). Im going to not rank Roni since I havent seen any of her seasons.
this also really varies depending on the format (if its individual, i dont have hope in KellyAnne to solve puzzles, and Kailah is much lower too, but if its paired, any of them have a chance except Tina id say)
I would put Sylvia ahead of Veronica....Veronica is not in good shape like she was back in the day... she sucks now and honestly nia isn't that great either...she looks way more athletic than she really is...her body looks amazing tho
If she was a better athlete she'd be targeted but she's the worst in her alliance (probably Kailah and V, maybe others) so there's no reason to target her over them. If you're the worst person there of course people won't target you. Her politics are so overrated IMO
I disagree with you here. Jemmye plays a good strategic game. Is she Susie or Emily Bailey? No. But she's really, really good. She gets the game and manipulates people very well. She also recovers from mistakes better than most.
its easy to play the game when you have no one targeting you cause you're just that bad
I would put Sylvia ahead of Veronica....Veronica is not in good shape like she was back in the day... she sucks now and honestly nia isn't that great either...she looks way more athletic than she really is...her body looks amazing tho
I don't understand why people think Veronica isn't in good shape. Aside from her being short and getting purged she performed decently throughout the trilogy on her return and Veronica will pretty much do anything. Heights don't phase her. She's good at puzzles. She'll get dirty when she has to. And she will be plotting. Out of everyone on this she's had the best strategic resume--she learned the hard way but she was "Queen V" for a reason.
If she was a better athlete she'd be targeted but she's the worst in her alliance (probably Kailah and V, maybe others) so there's no reason to target her over them. If you're the worst person there of course people won't target you. Her politics are so overrated IMO
I disagree with you here. Jemmye plays a good strategic game. Is she Susie or Emily Bailey? No. But she's really, really good. She gets the game and manipulates people very well. She also recovers from mistakes better than most.
its easy to play the game when you have no one targeting you cause you're just that bad
It isn't--weak players go home first all the time despite not coming in last. This board just blindly refuses to give Jemmye any credit because she's an awful human
If she was a better athlete she'd be targeted but she's the worst in her alliance (probably Kailah and V, maybe others) so there's no reason to target her over them. If you're the worst person there of course people won't target you. Her politics are so overrated IMO
I disagree with you here. Jemmye plays a good strategic game. Is she Susie or Emily Bailey? No. But she's really, really good. She gets the game and manipulates people very well. She also recovers from mistakes better than most.
its easy to play the game when you have no one targeting you cause you're just that bad
It isn't--weak players go home first all the time despite not coming in last. This board just blindly refuses to give Jemmye any credit because she's an awful human
I would put Sylvia ahead of Veronica....Veronica is not in good shape like she was back in the day... she sucks now and honestly nia isn't that great either...she looks way more athletic than she really is...her body looks amazing tho
I don't understand why people think Veronica isn't in good shape. Aside from her being short and getting purged she performed decently throughout the trilogy on her return and Veronica will pretty much do anything. Heights don't phase her. She's good at puzzles. She'll get dirty when she has to. And she will be plotting. Out of everyone on this she's had the best strategic resume--she learned the hard way but she was "Queen V" for a reason.
oh I think she's still plenty good. I just don't think she has the desire to win. Like I can see her in the final just completely over it lol
Veronica was literally fine in the trilogy. She did great in Dirty Thirty, was DQ'd in Vendettas and got purged only bc of her height in FR. She's great in puzzles and still has decent endurance. But her biggest strength by far is her politics.
Sylvia's politics have been carried by Shane, she has minimal connections here and is not a great runner. She isnt a standout in puzzles either. And Veronica's more well-connected, so im definitely putting V higher.
If she was a better athlete she'd be targeted but she's the worst in her alliance (probably Kailah and V, maybe others) so there's no reason to target her over them. If you're the worst person there of course people won't target you. Her politics are so overrated IMO
I disagree with you here. Jemmye plays a good strategic game. Is she Susie or Emily Bailey? No. But she's really, really good. She gets the game and manipulates people very well. She also recovers from mistakes better than most.
its easy to play the game when you have no one targeting you cause you're just that bad
It isn't--weak players go home first all the time despite not coming in last. This board just blindly refuses to give Jemmye any credit because she's an awful human
If she was a better athlete she'd be targeted but she's the worst in her alliance (probably Kailah and V, maybe others) so there's no reason to target her over them. If you're the worst person there of course people won't target you. Her politics are so overrated IMO
I disagree with you here. Jemmye plays a good strategic game. Is she Susie or Emily Bailey? No. But she's really, really good. She gets the game and manipulates people very well. She also recovers from mistakes better than most.
its easy to play the game when you have no one targeting you cause you're just that bad
It isn't--weak players go home first all the time despite not coming in last. This board just blindly refuses to give Jemmye any credit because she's an awful human
Stop defending you and oldschooler triple
lmao--people can bash Jemmye--which is fine with me--but I don't get claiming she's not good strategically.
Some of y'all really be over exaggerating on how good of a competitor Veronica was back in the day...y'all be acting like she Evelyn or laurel or somebody lol...she was decent but nowhere near great....yes she was one of the better females back then but the female competiton was a joke back then,90% of those women had 0 althletic ability...Veronica in her prime was no better than kaliah is as a competitor if I had to compare IMO
Does anyone remember What place Veronica came in on Vendetts purge (genuinely cant remember but wanna say middle of back?
im not a veronica fan by any means, but i do hope she pulls some good political gameplay as she usually does! I do think for a final tho her endurance wont be the best (unless she trained for this)
Some of y'all really be over exaggerating on how good of a competitor Veronica was back in the day...y'all be acting like she Evelyn or laurel or somebody lol...she was decent but nowhere near great....yes she was one of the better females back then but the female competiton was so much weaker than it is now...Veronica in her prime was no better than kaliah is as a competitor if I had to compare IMO
First off, the females back then were not weaker. And Veronica was better than Kailah. But no one has ever put Veronica in that elite group with Evelyn or Laurel (or Rachel, Jodi, Emily S, etc).
Does anyone remember What place Veronica came in on Vendetts purge (genuinely cant remember but wanna say middle of back?
im not a veronica fan by any means, but i do hope she pulls some good political gameplay as she usually does! I do think for a final tho her endurance wont be the best (unless she trained for this)
The girls didn't try on that purge because Nicole was already out at the start of day 2
IDC if Veronica is boring on this. Darrell is boring and they've brought him back 3 times. Veronica used to be one of the faces of the show, so if people like CT/Darrell can be on this show and provide absolutely nothing, she's earned that right too.
she did fine in the ruins final and solved some of those puzzles. She's average at worst. She'd be fine in puzzles in finals, she's no Nicole Z/Cory/Derrick etc where their whole final could go out the door based on a puzzle
KellyAnne's a great partner because she take direction well and will literally do anything (kind of like Jenna but I feel like she can eat or could back in the day) but I don't remember her ever doing well on a puzzle. She was almost as clueless as Derrick on the final puzzle on The Ruins final lol. But, yeah, realistically she's not on the pathetic level of Nicole Z/Cory. I feel like even Derrick is better than them lol
If she was a better athlete she'd be targeted but she's the worst in her alliance (probably Kailah and V, maybe others) so there's no reason to target her over them. If you're the worst person there of course people won't target you. Her politics are so overrated IMO
I do want to say...I'm grateful Easy hasn't been back. I hope that's been production's decision and he never returns
I disagree with you here. Jemmye plays a good strategic game. Is she Susie or Emily Bailey? No. But she's really, really good. She gets the game and manipulates people very well. She also recovers from mistakes better than most.
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Wrong thread
its easy to play the game when you have no one targeting you cause you're just that bad
I don't understand why people think Veronica isn't in good shape. Aside from her being short and getting purged she performed decently throughout the trilogy on her return and Veronica will pretty much do anything. Heights don't phase her. She's good at puzzles. She'll get dirty when she has to. And she will be plotting. Out of everyone on this she's had the best strategic resume--she learned the hard way but she was "Queen V" for a reason.
It isn't--weak players go home first all the time despite not coming in last. This board just blindly refuses to give Jemmye any credit because she's an awful human
Stop defending you and oldschooler triple
oh I think she's still plenty good. I just don't think she has the desire to win. Like I can see her in the final just completely over it lol
Veronica was literally fine in the trilogy. She did great in Dirty Thirty, was DQ'd in Vendettas and got purged only bc of her height in FR. She's great in puzzles and still has decent endurance. But her biggest strength by far is her politics.
Sylvia's politics have been carried by Shane, she has minimal connections here and is not a great runner. She isnt a standout in puzzles either. And Veronica's more well-connected, so im definitely putting V higher.
lmaoooo
Yall are getting my hyped up for Veronica, im not going to be able to handle it when she gets booted next.
lmao--people can bash Jemmye--which is fine with me--but I don't get claiming she's not good strategically.
Some of y'all really be over exaggerating on how good of a competitor Veronica was back in the day...y'all be acting like she Evelyn or laurel or somebody lol...she was decent but nowhere near great....yes she was one of the better females back then but the female competiton was a joke back then,90% of those women had 0 althletic ability...Veronica in her prime was no better than kaliah is as a competitor if I had to compare IMO
lol--if she goes out I just hope it's something that she didn't have a chance in
I wonder if they will let non RW/FM/RR on this. Michele would be a cute addition
Does anyone remember What place Veronica came in on Vendetts purge (genuinely cant remember but wanna say middle of back?
im not a veronica fan by any means, but i do hope she pulls some good political gameplay as she usually does! I do think for a final tho her endurance wont be the best (unless she trained for this)
First off, the females back then were not weaker. And Veronica was better than Kailah. But no one has ever put Veronica in that elite group with Evelyn or Laurel (or Rachel, Jodi, Emily S, etc).
Absolutely not. That defeats the purpose of All Stars. Only RW, RR and FM castmembers
The girls didn't try on that purge because Nicole was already out at the start of day 2
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I hope Veronica isn't boring on this...
Veronica was decent in the days where the challenges were carnival games and no girl really took training for these shows seriously
Michele would be a cute addition on the roaster as a kindergarten teacher for the year 22-23.
IDC if Veronica is boring on this. Darrell is boring and they've brought him back 3 times. Veronica used to be one of the faces of the show, so if people like CT/Darrell can be on this show and provide absolutely nothing, she's earned that right too.
I highkey could see/hope we see Tina going at it with Jordan
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