John is criticized as much if not more than Ashley for stealing the money. And yes doing that once should make you a target for the rest of your challenge career.
i was glad CT brought up that tired *** argument about Ashley stealing money lol. I never understood why people use that to show Ashley is untrustworthy when that was a one-time twist for that one format. But i guess this is The Challenge so any little thing gets a target on your back
I think misogyny plays a big part in it. You notice how Nelson bashes Amanda for giving up her game in Final Reckoning and only got a $500 gift card (which wasn't even true) but Nelson did it for free on Total Madness for Cory and didn't see a single penny. Also Amanda was attached to Zach and it was his choice to send themselves in and yet I don't hear a single word about him giving up his game for Bananas/Tony, who don't even give a shit about him.
And Bananas infamously stole Sarah's half of the money and openly brags about it, but I have never seen any of them give the same energy to him that they do Ashley for that move. And his was a lot more cold-blooded since he had Sarah believing that they had made up whereas Hunter/Ashley had problems before going into the final.
These challenge guys will crucify women for making moves they proudly make. It's a boys club. Always has been.
All of this. I love Nelly but my least favorite thing about him is how he comes at the women on this show.
i was glad CT brought up that tired *** argument about Ashley stealing money lol. I never understood why people use that to show Ashley is untrustworthy when that was a one-time twist for that one format. But i guess this is The Challenge so any little thing gets a target on your back
I think misogyny plays a big part in it. You notice how Nelson bashes Amanda for giving up her game in Final Reckoning and only got a $500 gift card (which wasn't even true) but Nelson did it for free on Total Madness for Cory and didn't see a single penny. Also Amanda was attached to Zach and it was his choice to send themselves in and yet I don't hear a single word about him giving up his game for Bananas/Tony, who don't even give a shit about him.
And Bananas infamously stole Sarah's half of the money and openly brags about it, but I have never seen any of them give the same energy to him that they do Ashley for that move. And his was a lot more cold-blooded since he had Sarah believing that they had made up whereas Hunter/Ashley had problems before going into the final.
These challenge guys will crucify women for making moves they proudly make. It's a boys club. Always has been.
All of this. I love Nelly but my least favorite thing about him is how he comes at the women on this show.
i hate when ppl say this nelson has the same energy with everyone
i was glad CT brought up that tired *** argument about Ashley stealing money lol. I never understood why people use that to show Ashley is untrustworthy when that was a one-time twist for that one format. But i guess this is The Challenge so any little thing gets a target on your back
I think misogyny plays a big part in it. You notice how Nelson bashes Amanda for giving up her game in Final Reckoning and only got a $500 gift card (which wasn't even true) but Nelson did it for free on Total Madness for Cory and didn't see a single penny. Also Amanda was attached to Zach and it was his choice to send themselves in and yet I don't hear a single word about him giving up his game for Bananas/Tony, who don't even give a shit about him.
And Bananas infamously stole Sarah's half of the money and openly brags about it, but I have never seen any of them give the same energy to him that they do Ashley for that move. And his was a lot more cold-blooded since he had Sarah believing that they had made up whereas Hunter/Ashley had problems before going into the final.
These challenge guys will crucify women for making moves they proudly make. It's a boys club. Always has been.
because cory didnt win so why tf would he give nelson money??????????/
John is criticized as much if not more than Ashley for stealing the money. And yes doing that once should make you a target for the rest of your challenge career.
John is criticized as much if not more than Ashley for stealing the money. And yes doing that once should make you a target for the rest of your challenge career.
like you famously say, who cares what we say on here?
I think the point is that the CAST rarely ever brings up Johnny stealing the money, sometimes I forget it even happened fr. On the other hand they have mentioned or played the clip of ashley stealing the money every time since it happened.
I do think she gets a lot of **** about stealing that money compared to Bananas. But if I was playing a game with her I would never trust her not because she stole the money but because I think she is shaddy and will back stab at anyone given the chance.
I am not talking about vevmo users or fans...I am talking about other cast members I feel like that moment isn't brought for him in negative way by other cast members and not as often as it does for Ashley
Let's remember the big morality rant he went on earlier in the season about how he would NEVER do what Sarah did on Exes 2 and that it shows a lot about the kind of person she is outside of the shows, blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile she just voted him into an elimination and he wasn't even her partner. This is much worse. Excuses... excuses when he does something. "I would have NEVER done that" hahahaha. Such a hypocrite
can't wait to hear how it's sarah's fault. according to johnny. anyone else think TJ would have layed into ANYONE else but the golden boy johnny if they took the money
"Sorry" but you not sorry or else you wouldn't of did it. Lyin ***.
I mean, I can copy tons of comments attacking John from that thread and countless others
I am not talking about vevmo users or fans...I am talking about other cast members I feel like that moment isn't brought for him in negative way by other cast members and not as often as it does for Ashley
After that they continually talked about how he was cursed and he was often targeted after that. I mean, we don't have a Day saying "she stole from her partner" line but I don't recall anyone other than Vince praising him for it.
Ashley and John are garbage for doing it--and pretty much everything else they do
john stole like 130k while ashley stole 500k lol plus ashley's was more recent. Unfortunately its always gonna get brought up until someone new steals money in a twist.
no one is bringing up praise ****, all we saying is that the cast doesnt give johnny the same shit about it. Him being "cursed" even a big thing, I feel like only him and jemmye said that. And even still that doesnt come off super negative. He was able to turn his moment into a joke whilst Ashley is still getting shit for it.
the revisionist history with final reckoning is so wild ashley was toxic, threatned to quit and constantly berated hunter from what we could see so imagine what the cast actually saw
Shes always gonna be a target when the last 6 female champions are either banned or not called anymore. She's lucky amber came in or she woulda been the only one.
the revisionist history with final reckoning is so wild ashley was toxic, threatned to quit and constantly berated hunter from what we could see so imagine what the cast actually saw
True--and I dislike Ashley because she constantly threatened to quit and how she handled stealing the money. John was a **** for taking it but he didn't attack Sarah when he did so. Ashley made a lot of mistakes with how she behaved during and after it.
I do agree that she needs to wear her target with thicker skin. Its not going anywhere anytime soon so she should stop expecting to walk around feeling safe
john stole like 130k while ashley stole 500k lol plus ashley's was more recent. Unfortunately its always gonna get brought up until someone new steals money in a twist.
130k or 500k. It doesn't matter. He still snaked Sarah out of it.
And back then, that kind of money was huge to the challengers and stung just the same.
john stole like 130k while ashley stole 500k lol plus ashley's was more recent. Unfortunately its always gonna get brought up until someone new steals money in a twist.
130k or 500k. It doesn't matter. He still snaked Sarah out of it.
And back then, that kind of money was huge to the challengers and stung just the same.
The amount of money matters a little bit but look at how they did it. Yeah, John was still a **** but Ashley handled it as poorly as anyone could.
john stole like 130k while ashley stole 500k lol plus ashley's was more recent. Unfortunately its always gonna get brought up until someone new steals money in a twist.
130k or 500k. It doesn't matter. He still snaked Sarah out of it.
And back then, that kind of money was huge to the challengers and stung just the same.
The amount of money matters a little bit but look at how they did it. Yeah, John was still a **** but Ashley handled it as poorly as anyone could.
Yeah but Bananas did it even worse, even with less money. The way he handled it was worse than the way Ashley did. And yet, he's never given the same kind of energy for it the way Ashley is.
The Challenge has always been a boys club. They're always gonna crucify women for the same moves men make. And you're willfully blind if you believe otherwise.
john stole like 130k while ashley stole 500k lol plus ashley's was more recent. Unfortunately its always gonna get brought up until someone new steals money in a twist.
130k or 500k. It doesn't matter. He still snaked Sarah out of it.
And back then, that kind of money was huge to the challengers and stung just the same.
The amount of money matters a little bit but look at how they did it. Yeah, John was still a **** but Ashley handled it as poorly as anyone could.
Yeah but Bananas did it even worse, even with less money. The way he handled it was worse than the way Ashley did. And yet, he's never given the same kind of energy for it the way Ashley is.
The Challenge has always been a boys club. They're always gonna crucify women for the same moves men make. And you're willfully blind if you believe otherwise.
How did he handle it worse? Ashley literally attacked Hunter as a human being. John said "sorry I'm going to take the money and run" or whatever. You can't try to claim John did it worse. That's dead wrong.
And I'm someone that think Sarah played Exes 2 perfectly and loved when the women ran the show in the golden era. Ashley handled it far worse than John. The fact i call him John should tell you what I think of him too.
You can't just play the "women can't do what men do" and pretend it's true. It's completely nonsense.
And to say it's always been a boys club mean you didn't watch until Fresh Meat.
Criticized by who?
All of this. I love Nelly but my least favorite thing about him is how he comes at the women on this show.
i hate when ppl say this nelson has the same energy with everyone
because cory didnt win so why tf would he give nelson money??????????/
Literally pretty much everyone here.
Wait--are we pretending people thought John did the right thing? The only people that don't trash John are those that simply hate Sarah.
Once again by who? Give us names and receipts?
like you famously say, who cares what we say on here?
I think the point is that the CAST rarely ever brings up Johnny stealing the money, sometimes I forget it even happened fr. On the other hand they have mentioned or played the clip of ashley stealing the money every time since it happened.
I mean yeah we all know she did it better but thats not the point lol
https://vevmo.com/forums/challenge-rivals-3-split-decision?page=7
I do think she gets a lot of **** about stealing that money compared to Bananas. But if I was playing a game with her I would never trust her not because she stole the money but because I think she is shaddy and will back stab at anyone given the chance.
I am not talking about vevmo users or fans...I am talking about other cast members I feel like that moment isn't brought for him in negative way by other cast members and not as often as it does for Ashley
Let's remember the big morality rant he went on earlier in the season about how he would NEVER do what Sarah did on Exes 2 and that it shows a lot about the kind of person she is outside of the shows, blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile she just voted him into an elimination and he wasn't even her partner. This is much worse. Excuses... excuses when he does something. "I would have NEVER done that" hahahaha. Such a hypocrite
can't wait to hear how it's sarah's fault. according to johnny. anyone else think TJ would have layed into ANYONE else but the golden boy johnny if they took the money
"Sorry" but you not sorry or else you wouldn't of did it. Lyin ***.
I mean, I can copy tons of comments attacking John from that thread and countless others
After that they continually talked about how he was cursed and he was often targeted after that. I mean, we don't have a Day saying "she stole from her partner" line but I don't recall anyone other than Vince praising him for it.
Ashley and John are garbage for doing it--and pretty much everything else they do
john stole like 130k while ashley stole 500k lol plus ashley's was more recent. Unfortunately its always gonna get brought up until someone new steals money in a twist.
The called herself Millionaire Mitchell which will put a target on you
no one is bringing up praise ****, all we saying is that the cast doesnt give johnny the same shit about it. Him being "cursed" even a big thing, I feel like only him and jemmye said that. And even still that doesnt come off super negative. He was able to turn his moment into a joke whilst Ashley is still getting shit for it.
Thats literally the only point being made here
the revisionist history with final reckoning is so wild ashley was toxic, threatned to quit and constantly berated hunter from what we could see so imagine what the cast actually saw
ashley and these tantrums need to go though. She was basically handed 1 million dollars on a silver platter while others never will get a **** win.
Shes always gonna be a target when the last 6 female champions are either banned or not called anymore. She's lucky amber came in or she woulda been the only one.
True--and I dislike Ashley because she constantly threatened to quit and how she handled stealing the money. John was a **** for taking it but he didn't attack Sarah when he did so. Ashley made a lot of mistakes with how she behaved during and after it.
I do agree that she needs to wear her target with thicker skin. Its not going anywhere anytime soon so she should stop expecting to walk around feeling safe
130k or 500k. It doesn't matter. He still snaked Sarah out of it.
And back then, that kind of money was huge to the challengers and stung just the same.
The amount of money matters a little bit but look at how they did it. Yeah, John was still a **** but Ashley handled it as poorly as anyone could.
Part of the difference also is I believe Hunter would have split it. I'm not convinced Sarah would have.
Yeah but Bananas did it even worse, even with less money. The way he handled it was worse than the way Ashley did. And yet, he's never given the same kind of energy for it the way Ashley is.
The Challenge has always been a boys club. They're always gonna crucify women for the same moves men make. And you're willfully blind if you believe otherwise.
How did he handle it worse? Ashley literally attacked Hunter as a human being. John said "sorry I'm going to take the money and run" or whatever. You can't try to claim John did it worse. That's dead wrong.
And I'm someone that think Sarah played Exes 2 perfectly and loved when the women ran the show in the golden era. Ashley handled it far worse than John. The fact i call him John should tell you what I think of him too.
You can't just play the "women can't do what men do" and pretend it's true. It's completely nonsense.
And to say it's always been a boys club mean you didn't watch until Fresh Meat.
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