I mean none of the cast members on All Stars or the regular show are bringing in many people (unless they are CT or maybe Bananas) so I don't see how that's a good argument for Darrell not being there? Any video posted on the mtv instagrams with darrel has people saying "i love hin" or "i wish he had won" which is a lot more than you can say about fessy or josh. Darrell was one of the few that casuals didn't laugh at for being considered an All Stars. He's not Homecoming Queen but clearly he's more popular than some of you give him credit for
Like only on this message board can coming second twice in an incredibly difficult show be considered a "flop"
I don't think anyone should be doing 3 of these in a row--not even Darrell. I'm more willing to see someone three times in a row if they haven't made 2 finals--so Kendal or Katie. I won't be mad if Darrell is back but I'd like to see some variety depending on who those options are lol
Hot take, but Darrell really isn't much different from what he used to be. He was NEVER a focal point on a season, never had much of a story line. Just a solid competitor and solid person. Its nice to have that energy in the house with all of these attention-starved kids
I love Darrell but coming back has definitely hurt his stats. I still enjoy him and would much rather watch him than an obnoxious try hard personality like Bananas. But I honestly don't think he would even do season 3 if its still going to film that soon, seems like he's focusing on opening his gym back up. Plus that would be what? 4 seasons in a year when you count DA? Thats way too much. But who knows, money talks
no darrell, not as good as S2. the best season of all stars.
If they really bring back Tony and Nicole Z for this though...
Darrell doesn't bring anything to the table other than being an snooze fest and losing to people that haven't done this show in years on finals.
think we had a long debate about this in the ratings thread lol.
Darrell is a competitor and entertaining. casuals favorite all star :)
For being a casual "favorite" and being doin this show since the early 2000s it sure isn't showing on his following. He doesn't affect ratings or subscribers in any way he is just there he is the senior version of Jeremiah a guy you constantly attack for being boring.
looking at "IG following" is exactly how we got these awful SLA casts w people having 200k followers and doing nothing on the show and the ratings suck. None of the OG all stars have large SM followings obviously, casuals aren't stans on Twitter. More about engagement than "fake followers"
I'd look more at those surveys they were giving out.
and Jeremiah can't even get a second of airtime on the show no matter how hard the editors try. Compare that to Darrell on all stars who was the most heavily featured guy besides mark
Where is the engagement you talk about with og fan favorites?
Once again Darrell bring as much as Jeremiah has done boring game play and can't beat this random guys on all stars final
like coffeelover said, " Any video posted on the mtv instagrams with darrel has people saying "i love hin" or "i wish he had won" "when are you coming back?" etc
Darrell always brings the entertainment, im really surprised you didnt like him on all stars 1. Again, editors can't even put Jeremiah on the show for a second. Nothing! Even on Double Agents, Darrell was delivering at least 3-4 solid confessionals a week and it only got better for All Stars 1.
People like watching strong competitors like him, Zach, Jordan etc compete.. it's not all about random hookups and fake fights people get into like Josh.
I agree he should've won All Stars 2, but IDK how it worked with the partner thing. At least he took out Brad that should be a legendary moment
Not quoting them all, but literally everything the last 5 posters above said Darrell is FACTS.
Given how many unlikable, not charismatic vets they put on the show, Darrell is a breath of fresh air of people fans actually ROOT FOR. That's desperately needed on both this and the main show.
Not 100% sure why the hate, but didnt PR say they didn't watch Gauntlet or both Infernos?? That has a lot to do with it imo
Hot take, but Darrell really isn't much different from what he used to be. He was NEVER a focal point on a season, never had much of a story line. Just a solid competitor and solid person. Its nice to have that energy in the house with all of these attention-starved kids
Hot take, but Darrell really isn't much different from what he used to be. He was NEVER a focal point on a season, never had much of a story line. Just a solid competitor and solid person. Its nice to have that energy in the house with all of these attention-starved kids
100% agreed
I say it all the time but him, Wes, Bananas, should all be automatic regulars every main show at this point given how bad casting has been. Like production REALLY thought fans would care more about random Jeremiah, Tommy, and Circle guy? Ratings don't lie.
Hot take, but Darrell really isn't much different from what he used to be. He was NEVER a focal point on a season, never had much of a story line. Just a solid competitor and solid person. Its nice to have that energy in the house with all of these attention-starved kids
100% agreed
I say it all the time but him, Wes, Bananas, should all be automatic regulars every main show at this point given how bad casting has been. Like production REALLY thought fans would care more about random Jeremiah, Tommy, and Circle guy? Ratings don't lie.
I like Darrell 1000x more than those 2 but he's not in the same league as John or Wes when it comes to casting. You know that. The ratings have absolutely nothing to do with Darrell--stop.
Hot take, but Darrell really isn't much different from what he used to be. He was NEVER a focal point on a season, never had much of a story line. Just a solid competitor and solid person. Its nice to have that energy in the house with all of these attention-starved kids
100% agreed
I say it all the time but him, Wes, Bananas, should all be automatic regulars every main show at this point given how bad casting has been. Like production REALLY thought fans would care more about random Jeremiah, Tommy, and Circle guy? Ratings don't lie.
I like Darrell 1000x more than those 2 but he's not in the same league as John or Wes when it comes to casting. You know that. The ratings have absolutely nothing to do with Darrell--stop.
So replace Bananas/Wes with like a Zach and Jordan then.
My main point is that they need to focus BACK on casting veterans of the show and not these random people with "Social media followings" that no one cares about. It's not 1 person in particular, but the general theme they used to cut costs or whatever which clearly didnt work.
Wrong thread though to discuss all this main show wise. But in terms of All Stars 3 casting, yeah obviously Darrell should be a lock, that's not even a question. Think they are running out of people to cast anyway.
But in terms of All Stars 3 casting, yeah obviously Darrell should be a lock, that's not even a question. Think they are running out of people to cast anyway.
Pink doesn't seem to believe that's true. I don't think it is either. I just think they can't get the people we obviously want (Coral, Jamie, Theo, Miz, etc) so we act as though they can't get people.
Laurel came in second place 3 times before getting a win and who would ever call her a flop?
A lot of people on Fresh Meat 2 bashed her for losing to Carley then on Cutthroat people claimed Cara did better in the final (as Laurel carried her around the track). People always say stupid stuff like that. Laurel was always a beast but people see what they want.
I'm so ready to see Ayanna back on our screens. I'm so happy she makes it to the final. I have a feeling Katie, Kendal, Beth, Ruthie, Derrick, Darrell and Mark are locks for season 3
I mean none of the cast members on All Stars or the regular show are bringing in many people (unless they are CT or maybe Bananas) so I don't see how that's a good argument for Darrell not being there? Any video posted on the mtv instagrams with darrel has people saying "i love hin" or "i wish he had won" which is a lot more than you can say about fessy or josh. Darrell was one of the few that casuals didn't laugh at for being considered an All Stars. He's not Homecoming Queen but clearly he's more popular than some of you give him credit for
Like only on this message board can coming second twice in an incredibly difficult show be considered a "flop"
Who called him a "flop"? All that was said is that he lost to two guys that haven't been on this shows for years 2 seasons in a row which is a fact and that he hasn't brought anything as far as entertainment goes since he beat up Brad over a decade ago...That he is a ancient version of Jeremiah.
I mean none of the cast members on All Stars or the regular show are bringing in many people (unless they are CT or maybe Bananas) so I don't see how that's a good argument for Darrell not being there? Any video posted on the mtv instagrams with darrel has people saying "i love hin" or "i wish he had won" which is a lot more than you can say about fessy or josh. Darrell was one of the few that casuals didn't laugh at for being considered an All Stars. He's not Homecoming Queen but clearly he's more popular than some of you give him credit for
Like only on this message board can coming second twice in an incredibly difficult show be considered a "flop"
Who called him a "flop"? All that was said is that he lost to two guys that haven't been on this shows for years 2 seasons in a row which is a fact and that he hasn't brought anything as far as entertainment goes since he beat up Darrell over a decade ago...That he is a ancient version of Jeremiah.
Not quoting them all, but literally everything the last 5 posters above said Darrell is FACTS.
Given how many unlikable, not charismatic vets they put on the show, Darrell is a breath of fresh air of people fans actually ROOT FOR. That's desperately needed on both this and the main show.
Not 100% sure why the hate, but didnt PR say they didn't watch Gauntlet or both Infernos?? That has a lot to do with it imo
Some of you guys are delusional with your favs it's like if I were to get mad if someone calls Jonna boring. When I know she is pretty laid back and doesn't bring drama act more mature than the linked of Trashelle that is 10 years older than her.
I felt Darrell was more lively and funny in his confessionals on All Stars than other seasons but his gameplay is boring.
I mean none of the cast members on All Stars or the regular show are bringing in many people (unless they are CT or maybe Bananas) so I don't see how that's a good argument for Darrell not being there? Any video posted on the mtv instagrams with darrel has people saying "i love hin" or "i wish he had won" which is a lot more than you can say about fessy or josh. Darrell was one of the few that casuals didn't laugh at for being considered an All Stars. He's not Homecoming Queen but clearly he's more popular than some of you give him credit for
Like only on this message board can coming second twice in an incredibly difficult show be considered a "flop"
I don't even care that much about him but PR is being weirdly unfair about Darrell, what's your beef with him lmao
I don't think anyone should be doing 3 of these in a row--not even Darrell. I'm more willing to see someone three times in a row if they haven't made 2 finals--so Kendal or Katie. I won't be mad if Darrell is back but I'd like to see some variety depending on who those options are lol
Hot take, but Darrell really isn't much different from what he used to be. He was NEVER a focal point on a season, never had much of a story line. Just a solid competitor and solid person. Its nice to have that energy in the house with all of these attention-starved kids
I love Darrell but coming back has definitely hurt his stats. I still enjoy him and would much rather watch him than an obnoxious try hard personality like Bananas. But I honestly don't think he would even do season 3 if its still going to film that soon, seems like he's focusing on opening his gym back up. Plus that would be what? 4 seasons in a year when you count DA? Thats way too much. But who knows, money talks
like coffeelover said, " Any video posted on the mtv instagrams with darrel has people saying "i love hin" or "i wish he had won" "when are you coming back?" etc
Darrell always brings the entertainment, im really surprised you didnt like him on all stars 1. Again, editors can't even put Jeremiah on the show for a second. Nothing! Even on Double Agents, Darrell was delivering at least 3-4 solid confessionals a week and it only got better for All Stars 1.
People like watching strong competitors like him, Zach, Jordan etc compete.. it's not all about random hookups and fake fights people get into like Josh.
I agree he should've won All Stars 2, but IDK how it worked with the partner thing. At least he took out Brad
that should be a legendary moment
Not quoting them all, but literally everything the last 5 posters above said Darrell is FACTS.
Given how many unlikable, not charismatic vets they put on the show, Darrell is a breath of fresh air of people fans actually ROOT FOR. That's desperately needed on both this and the main show.
Not 100% sure why the hate, but didnt PR say they didn't watch Gauntlet or both Infernos?? That has a lot to do with it imo
100% agreed
I say it all the time but him, Wes, Bananas, should all be automatic regulars every main show at this point given how bad casting has been. Like production REALLY thought fans would care more about random Jeremiah, Tommy, and Circle guy? Ratings don't lie.
Anyways...you know who will deliver? Ayanna, Tina, Katie, Casey, and Kendal. TACK ladies are coming!
I like Darrell 1000x more than those 2 but he's not in the same league as John or Wes when it comes to casting. You know that. The ratings have absolutely nothing to do with Darrell--stop.
Define deliver?
So replace Bananas/Wes with like a Zach and Jordan then.
My main point is that they need to focus BACK on casting veterans of the show and not these random people with "Social media followings" that no one cares about. It's not 1 person in particular, but the general theme they used to cut costs or whatever which clearly didnt work.
Wrong thread though to discuss all this main show wise. But in terms of All Stars 3 casting, yeah obviously Darrell should be a lock, that's not even a question. Think they are running out of people to cast anyway.
Bringing the entertainment, humor, fun, gameplay and drama!
Katie will deliver as long as she doesn't volunteer to go in again.
Pink doesn't seem to believe that's true. I don't think it is either. I just think they can't get the people we obviously want (Coral, Jamie, Theo, Miz, etc) so we act as though they can't get people.
Fair enough--we shall see. I think some will deliver and some won't (maybe they'll have a moment but everyone does)
Laurel came in second place 3 times before getting a win and who would ever call her a flop?
as well as queen melinda!
Tbh- I haven't t heard anything regarding Kendal this season other than she DQ lol
A lot of people on Fresh Meat 2 bashed her for losing to Carley then on Cutthroat people claimed Cara did better in the final (as Laurel carried her around the track). People always say stupid stuff like that. Laurel was always a beast but people see what they want.
I'm so ready to see Ayanna back on our screens. I'm so happy she makes it to the final. I have a feeling Katie, Kendal, Beth, Ruthie, Derrick, Darrell and Mark are locks for season 3
I'm just grateful to see my favorites again. Especially Sophia, Ryan, Jodi and Ayanna.
Who called him a "flop"? All that was said is that he lost to two guys that haven't been on this shows for years 2 seasons in a row which is a fact and that he hasn't brought anything as far as entertainment goes since he beat up Brad over a decade ago...That he is a ancient version of Jeremiah.
Aside from having the ability to compete...
Darrel is cool.....but you need to get a hobby
She breathed. She delivered.
Some of you guys are delusional with your favs it's like if I were to get mad if someone calls Jonna boring. When I know she is pretty laid back and doesn't bring drama act more mature than the linked of Trashelle that is 10 years older than her.
I cant think of an storyline Darrell had since coming back on Invasion
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