The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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Getting a call doesn't mean much of anything

definitely does because there literally the starting point of casting, it means something 

Everyone gets the first call

The discussion should be which handful of these vets should be brought back. The rookie class this season looks exponentially more likeable-- on paper and throughout the first 2 eps.

The discussion should be which handful of these vets should be brought back. The rookie class this season looks exponentially more likeable-- on paper and throughout the first 2 eps.

I think even a handful of these current vets is even too much. Amber and Amanda. Even though i hate to say it i can kinda make a case for fessy but other than them everyone else need to take a break because they are stale and not providing anything anymore. For me no one should be doing more than 3 season in a row.

 

The discussion should be which handful of these vets should be brought back. The rookie class this season looks exponentially more likeable-- on paper and throughout the first 2 eps.

I think even a handful of these current vets is even too much. Amber and Amanda. Even though i hate to say it i can kinda make a case for fessy but other than them everyone else need to take a break because they are stale and not providing anything anymore. For me no one should be doing more than 3 season in a row.

100% agreed! 

I think the vets side for next season might look a little like this:

Females - Nany, Kaycee, Big T, Tori, Emy (unless she gets dropped due to the n word thing), Berna, Michele, Michaela, Kam (if she says yes), Esther

Males - Josh, Fessy, CT, Nelson, Emanuel, Logan, Corey L., Nam

Gamer said Ashley, Aneesa Amanda won't be on next season, and I don't think Kyle would say yes in October since that's probably around when his gf is due, and I think someone said that Cory W. said that he's only going to do only one season per year now. I can see Amber coming back too

They need to give Kaycee the Jenny treatment and not bring her back next season. We don't need back to back wins from her and realistically that will very likely happen.

So people are back to thinking the show should just roll with new people lol

I think the vets side for next season might look a little like this:

Females - Nany, Kaycee, Big T, Tori, Emy (unless she gets dropped due to the n word thing), Berna, Michele, Michaela, Kam (if she says yes), Esther

Males - Josh, Fessy, CT, Nelson, Emanuel, Logan, Corey L., Nam

Gamer said Ashley, Aneesa Amanda won't be on next season, and I don't think Kyle would say yes in October since that's probably around when his gf is due, and I think someone said that Cory W. said that he's only going to do only one season per year now. I can see Amber coming back too

Jeremiah and Ed or Gabo for the vets aswell

 

I think the vets side for next season might look a little like this:

Females - Nany, Kaycee, Big T, Tori, Emy (unless she gets dropped due to the n word thing), Berna, Michele, Michaela, Kam (if she says yes), Esther

Males - Josh, Fessy, CT, Nelson, Emanuel, Logan, Corey L., Nam

Gamer said Ashley, Aneesa Amanda won't be on next season, and I don't think Kyle would say yes in October since that's probably around when his gf is due, and I think someone said that Cory W. said that he's only going to do only one season per year now. I can see Amber coming back too

Jeremiah and Ed or Gabo for the vets aswell

Also Kelz

CT abd Kaycee definitely dont need to back thats all I I know, CT damn near won 3 seasons in a row and Kaycee has done everything she has to offer.

CT abd Kaycee definitely dont need to back thats all I I know, CT damn near won 3 seasons in a row and Kaycee has done everything she has to offer.

Why wouldn't we want competitors back?   This whole "I don't like someone therefore they don't add anything" is beyound tired at this point

 

CT abd Kaycee definitely dont need to back thats all I I know, CT damn near won 3 seasons in a row and Kaycee has done everything she has to offer.

Why wouldn't we want competitors back?   This whole "I don't like someone therefore they don't add anything" is beyound tired at this point

because its boring to see the same people win in my opinion. Johnny was never the best competitor but I used to say the same thing when he was winning constantly. There are other good competitors, I can live without CT and KC

Kaycee Nany and Tori aren't going anywhere I gave up that dream a long time ago 

CT abd Kaycee definitely dont need to back thats all I I know, CT damn near won 3 seasons in a row and Kaycee has done everything she has to offer.

Why wouldn't we want competitors back?   This whole "I don't like someone therefore they don't add anything" is beyound tired at this point

because its boring to see the same people win in my opinion. Johnny was never the best competitor but I used to say the same thing when he was winning constantly. There are other good competitors, I can live without CT and KC

Fair enough.  While I fully believe people should take breaks I don't see any reason they wouldn't both be back (next season or after a break) regardless what anyone thinks of them.

Female I see back next season from this season: Nany Tori Kaycee Amber Michaela Emy Berna Michele Esther Tacha ( if she accepts ) Big T and maybe Priscilla 

So people are back to thinking the show should just roll with new people lol

no i just think they have a plethora of possible vets and they dont need to use the same ones season after season when theyre not doing anything or if theyre creating fake drama to cling on the relavency. As for Kaycee and CT yes theyre competitors and im fine with having compeitors on the show but  if theyre never targeted and therefore dont have to actually compete then thas thats boring theyre not needed.

Tacha will definitely accept, I remember Berna said that she, Tacha, and Esther had a moment of happiness with each other in the house because a goal they had was to appear on american television 

I said 4+ years ago if you do 2-3 seasons in a row you should be mandated a break of a season or 2.  

imagine watching this with a season titled this way.

I don't think Kyle would say yes in October since that's probably around when his gf is due, and I think someone said that Cory W. said that he's only going to do only one season per year now. 

People were adamant Cory wasn't doing this season bc of his kid's birthday. Cory and Kyle are never skipping a season, this is their whole life. 

I'm actually not mad at a simular format every season as long as they get casting right.

Little tweaks make all the difference, it's not about adding 50% random new people every season. Bring back real vets and players who have things to prove. 

So people are back to thinking the show should just roll with new people lol

no i just think they have a plethora of possible vets and they dont need to use the same ones season after season when theyre not doing anything or if theyre creating fake drama to cling on the relavency. As for Kaycee and CT yes theyre competitors and im fine with having compeitors on the show but  if theyre never targeted and therefore dont have to actually compete then thas thats boring theyre not needed.

Do they really have that many vets at this point?   I think they ruined that around XXX. 

People need to target them then--at the right time.  I know people think Kaycee is boring but everyone loves Kaycee.  She's doing something right.  CT won last season and made a final without seeing an elimination.   Kudos to both of their social games.  No one has to like either but I fully respect great social games and gameplays.  They deserved to win--they're elite competitors and they clearly played an email political game.

I guess here's the question--someone list 10 realistc vets for next season (5 men/5 women) not on this season.  Realistic.

Kam, Kailah, Sylvia, Georgia, Laurel, Cara, Melissa, Nicole, Zahida, Jenny, Natalie A and BB, Marie.

Paulie, Theo + Turbo(wishful, maybe), Joss, Rogan, Wes, Jordan, Jay, Asaf, Darrell, Tony, Brad.

Kam, Kailah, Sylvia, Georgia, Laurel, Cara, Melissa, Nicole, Zahida, Jenny, Natalie A and BB, Marie.

Paulie, Theo + Turbo(wishful, maybe), Joss, Rogan, Wes, Jordan, Jay, Asaf, Darrell.

Okay now look at the list and remove those that have been dropped recently (Paulie Georgia Jordan Marie etc) and those that aren't interested and you're going to see why the keep bringing back the same people. Kam Nicole Jenny Wes Asaf and MAYBE Jay are the only ones I'd say were realistic. The rest would be shocking IMO 

Kam, Kailah, Sylvia, Georgia, Laurel, Cara, Melissa, Nicole, Zahida, Jenny, Natalie A and BB, Marie.

Paulie, Theo + Turbo(wishful, maybe), Joss, Rogan, Wes, Jordan, Jay, Asaf, Darrell, Tony, Brad.

are these names you want or see coming back next season? 

Would love an Asaf return

 

Kam, Kailah, Sylvia, Georgia, Laurel, Cara, Melissa, Nicole, Zahida, Jenny, Natalie A and BB, Marie.

Paulie, Theo + Turbo(wishful, maybe), Joss, Rogan, Wes, Jordan, Jay, Asaf, Darrell, Tony, Brad.

are these names you want or see coming back next season? 

some I want, some I could see being options cuz the pool isnt THAT big

GEORGIA ? Lmaoooooo

Zahida Nicole and Marie ? Oh god that list is terrible 

GEORGIA ? Lmaoooooo

Georgia might be a stretch, based on the radioactive Bear shit. But they like them kinda women. See Emy.

Zahida and Marie got calls this year.

Reality is almost all the veteran guys will be back including Nam (maybe Cory sits one out but I doubt it) and Tori Nany Big T Amber and Kaycee definitely return since Ashley and Aneesa are on a "break".  Amanda might come back too based on her actions since filming ended but I'm still thinking she takes a break. 

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