The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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If you are celebrating a single mother get eliminated you are the problem!!

As we've said with Tony Cory and every other father...it's not the cast's fault you had kids. 

you are gonna be that angry guy sitting on his porch yelling "GET OFF MY LAWN" at kids

Not sure what your point is. Someone having kids is irrelevant. Most people have kids. Would you care if CT was eliminated because he has a kid?  Of course not. 

the point is it was a tongue and cheek joke and you came running with your cane

Devyn made it to the end and lost. Back then you won money if you finished, they don't do that anymore. I don't give brownie points for making the final and leaving empty handed. 

The only people who are smart for not voting CT in are the women. If none of the guys tried to get him in to elimination, they aren't smart. 

 

Being good at the game is subjective. The purpose is to put you in the best position to win, even if that means keeping all layups in the game until the final

If you can be a layup and play that to your advantage to reach the end like Devyn the more power to you. 

If you're trying to say everyone that didn't vote in CT made a mistake you're wrong. 

 

 

You can root for people who are entertaining and are decent competitors. This trend of bringing athletes who can't do both is what ruins the show

Why? I don't care about the drama  Kaycee is not "ruining" the game

Learn how to read, they said it ruins the show, not the game.

 

Ct is beatable in eliminations I don't know why people are so scared.... it's ct in a final you have to be more worried about 

He has one real loss that wasn't a puzzle a DQ a 2 vs 1 or a partner quiting. CT is a very tough out and everyone knows it. 

Why si a puzzle not a legitinate loss like??

Might as well give the win to whoever is partnered with CT 

 

You can root for people who are entertaining and are decent competitors. This trend of bringing athletes who can't do both is what ruins the show

Why? I don't care about the drama  Kaycee is not "ruining" the game

Learn how to read, they said it ruins the show, not the game.

The show is the game---the show doesn't exist without the game.  This isn't The Bachelor

Woohoo go CT and Nelly baby!  Either one wins is a good season!  They are both so hot!

I feel bad for Amanda she was so close to making her first final. She might as well gone home week 1 she woulda earned the same amount instead of spending 3 months not seeing her son 

Don't they get paid for the weeks they're on location too??

Fessy either had issues or talk shit about all 4 males in the final this season lol. This really ain't Fessy season 

Ct is beatable in eliminations I don't know why people are so scared.... it's ct in a final you have to be more worried about 

He has one real loss that wasn't a puzzle a DQ a 2 vs 1 or a partner quiting. CT is a very tough out and everyone knows it. 

Why si a puzzle not a legitinate loss like??

It is--he's improved greatly  in that area though and even John admits CT would have beat him 9 times out of 10 on that.  That's why CT is dangerous--unless you get something purely speed based he's the favorite.  Doesn't mean he'll win but he's the favorite

Devyn made it to the end and lost. Back then you won money if you finished, they don't do that anymore. I don't give brownie points for making the final and leaving empty handed. 

The only people who are smart for not voting CT in are the women. If none of the guys tried to get him in to elimination, they aren't smart. 

 

 

Being good at the game is subjective. The purpose is to put you in the best position to win, even if that means keeping all layups in the game until the final

If you can be a layup and play that to your advantage to reach the end like Devyn the more power to you. 

If you're trying to say everyone that didn't vote in CT made a mistake you're wrong. 

None of the guys and half of the women arent smart. The only person who will be smart at the end of this final for keeping CT will be the girl who was tied to him. The otehr 3 girls and 3 guys are not smart for keeping CT.

 

Ct is beatable in eliminations I don't know why people are so scared.... it's ct in a final you have to be more worried about 

He has one real loss that wasn't a puzzle a DQ a 2 vs 1 or a partner quiting. CT is a very tough out and everyone knows it. 

It wasn't 2 v 1 it would've reset if he was smart 

I feel bad for Amanda she was so close to making her first final. She might as well gone home week 1 she woulda earned the same amount instead of spending 3 months not seeing her son 

Don't they get paid for the weeks they're on location too??

It may have changed but I'm pretty sure back in the day it was a set fee--it's not like BB

 

I feel bad for Amanda she was so close to making her first final. She might as well gone home week 1 she woulda earned the same amount instead of spending 3 months not seeing her son 

Don't they get paid for the weeks they're on location too??

It may have changed but I'm pretty sure back in the day it was a set fee--it's not like BB

That sucks...

The one season Cory tries to play smart he gets turned on and singled out. Kam and Leroy would've never let CT skate to the end like this untouched 

Exactly we need more kam's on this show cause obviously this current crop of vets ain't got many brain cells 

 

 

You can root for people who are entertaining and are decent competitors. This trend of bringing athletes who can't do both is what ruins the show

Why? I don't care about the drama  Kaycee is not "ruining" the game

Learn how to read, they said it ruins the show, not the game.

The show is the game---the show doesn't exist without the game.  This isn't The Bachelor

The show and the game are 2 different things. How do you not undertand that? The game is the actual format and the competition. The show is what is presented to us as the edited product. Bringing atheletes onto the show like Kaycee ruins the show because they add nothing of value in terms of entertainment.

 

Ct is beatable in eliminations I don't know why people are so scared.... it's ct in a final you have to be more worried about 

He has one real loss that wasn't a puzzle a DQ a 2 vs 1 or a partner quiting. CT is a very tough out and everyone knows it. 

It wasn't 2 v 1 it would've reset if he was smart 

You can blame his strategy if you want.  No complaints there.  It still wasn't a straight up H2H elimination.

Hoping Amanda got at least a 50k appearance check....

You can root for people who are entertaining and are decent competitors. This trend of bringing athletes who can't do both is what ruins the show

Why? I don't care about the drama  Kaycee is not "ruining" the game

Learn how to read, they said it ruins the show, not the game.

The show is the game---the show doesn't exist without the game.  This isn't The Bachelor

The show and the game are 2 different things. How do you not undertand that? The game is the actual format and the competition. The show is what is presented to us as the edited product. Bringing atheletes onto the show like Kaycee ruins the show because they add nothing of value in terms of entertainment.

You're wrong.  The entire show is the game.  The competition is the entertainment and the drama that comes from it.  Using your logic sports aren't entertaining.

Hoping Amanda got at least a 50k appearance check....

No chance IMO

 

 

 

The fact that Devin and Kyle were up CT smelly *** all season and didn't even think to try to get him out in one of the last eliminations is so sad

Why do you think Kyle was with him?  

I think they all were working together because Kyle works with CT every season who's to say anything changed this season. Also Devin are definitely BFF buddy buddy with the both of them.

Then why do you think Kyle got thrown in that early?

Someone who's against kyle could've won the daily

Kam not coming back really gave CT too much power

 

You can root for people who are entertaining and are decent competitors. This trend of bringing athletes who can't do both is what ruins the show

Why? I don't care about the drama  Kaycee is not "ruining" the game

Learn how to read, they said it ruins the show, not the game.

The show is the game---the show doesn't exist without the game.  This isn't The Bachelor

The show and the game are 2 different things. How do you not undertand that? The game is the actual format and the competition. The show is what is presented to us as the edited product. Bringing atheletes onto the show like Kaycee ruins the show because they add nothing of value in terms of entertainment.

You're wrong.  The entire show is the game.  The competition is the entertainment and the drama that comes from it.  Using your logic sports aren't entertaining.

That has to be the dumbest shit ive ever heard. Sports are presented exactly how they are, and they dont have an aspect of drama to them. There is no editing. 

Someone like Kaycee is ruining the SHOW by making it boring, not through her competition prowess but through her ability to lack a personality and bring nothing to the table in terms of entertainment, which is exactly what the show is, a Reality TV Show.

In the meantime..... if it's partners what are your partner predictions? 

I really hope they don't pick partners nany will end up giving herself 4th picking Kyle 

I said it multiple times before but CT really deserves this W if they let him skate by without seeing a single elim. These vets are BIG dumb for allowing this to happen, quite unheard of if he really was never in danger. I just hope if it's a partner final, he's with anyone but Tori

Whoever wins the mission should throw ct in as much as possible with the weakest girl there. That way they have a shot. Its risky but without that risk you end up losing in the end

You can root for people who are entertaining and are decent competitors. This trend of bringing athletes who can't do both is what ruins the show

Why? I don't care about the drama  Kaycee is not "ruining" the game

Learn how to read, they said it ruins the show, not the game.

The show is the game---the show doesn't exist without the game.  This isn't The Bachelor

The show and the game are 2 different things. How do you not undertand that? The game is the actual format and the competition. The show is what is presented to us as the edited product. Bringing atheletes onto the show like Kaycee ruins the show because they add nothing of value in terms of entertainment.

You're wrong.  The entire show is the game.  The competition is the entertainment and the drama that comes from it.  Using your logic sports aren't entertaining.

That has to be the dumbest shit ive ever heard. Sports are presented exactly how they are, and they dont have an aspect of drama to them. There is no editing. 

Someone like Kaycee is ruining the SHOW by making it boring, not through her competition prowess but through her ability to lack a personality and bring nothing to the table in terms of entertainment, which is exactly what the show is, a Reality TV Show.

You just said don't have drama yet you called what I wrote the dumbest shit ever

Aggain, Kaycee isn't ruining the show or game.  Her being boring has no negative impact.  Josh and the fake drama is way worse for the "show".  It's a COMPETITION BASED REALITY SHOW.  Again, if you don't care for competition stop watching it.  I don't watch EOTB Love Island The Bachelor and complain it's boring because there's no competition.

In the meantime..... if it's partners what are your partner predictions? 

CT/Emy, Kyle/Kaycee, Devin/Tori, Nelson/Nany

Honestly, the last girl to win an elimination probably has CT and the last guy to win an elimination probably has Kaycee so I'm guessing that was Emy & Kyle

 

Hoping Amanda got at least a 50k appearance check....

No chance IMO

This says there is a flat fee of 4000 and then newbies make 1k a week.. known people make 3-5k a week. Idk...

https://screenrant.com/mtv-challenge-cast-members-earnings-paid-salary-amount/tldr/7

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