TYB/LL screwed themselves by not working with the rookies to get the other vets out. They're dumb if they thought someone like Kaycee, Tori, Josh, etc had their back in the end
Let's say the tried to work with the rookies early on. What are the odds any of them would still be there?
It would've turned out better then this mess.....the rookies don't know enough about how to play the game to execute an all rookie final, so they could've run the game, by bondinf with some rookies and having the numbers to turn on the other vets first. Cory wouldn't have ended up being the first male vet out.
Who says the rookies would have sided with them? I don't see that at all and I think we'll see the remaining rookies aren't with them
Cory left first before. What difference does it make if you're the first vet male out or second?
They played their best game they just didn't execute after the midpoint.
kvm is right for once, if they created numbers from the start they would still be there, there late/mid game exuation was bad
Nahh I think they played the best game for CT to get to the end not for Cory and Nelson to get to the end. When it was all vets left you need the numbers on your side otherwise u might as well go out first. If they could've thrown someone like Josh or Kyle in they would've had a better shot of having the numbers in the end, instead of getting rid of some of these rookies. Sure u don't know where the rookies stand but u for sure know Josh isn't going to have your back over several other people, same goes for Kyle and CT. Then someone like Kaycee that voted in Nelson several times indeed DA will not have your back, same goes for Tori. They put themselves in this sh** position for not thinking about how the game would play out when it was all vets. Play to win not to get to final 7.
I like Ashley but she had to go for the greater good. Now the female side is wide open and it wouldn't shock me if any of them won (besides maybe Big T)
Now Nany and Amanda have no obstacles and they'll share 1st and 2nd place
TYB/LL screwed themselves by not working with the rookies to get the other vets out. They're dumb if they thought someone like Kaycee, Tori, Josh, etc had their back in the end
Let's say the tried to work with the rookies early on. What are the odds any of them would still be there?
It would've turned out better then this mess.....the rookies don't know enough about how to play the game to execute an all rookie final, so they could've run the game, by bondinf with some rookies and having the numbers to turn on the other vets first. Cory wouldn't have ended up being the first male vet out.
Who says the rookies would have sided with them? I don't see that at all and I think we'll see the remaining rookies aren't with them
Cory left first before. What difference does it make if you're the first vet male out or second?
They played their best game they just didn't execute after the midpoint.
kvm is right for once, if they created numbers from the start they would still be there, there late/mid game exuation was bad
Nahh I think they played the best game for CT to get to the end not for Cory and Nelson to get to the end. When it was all vets left you need the numbers on your side otherwise u might as well go out first. If they could've thrown someone like Josh or Kyle in they would've had a better shot of having the numbers in the end, instead of getting rid of some of these rookies. Sure u don't know where the rookies stand but u for sure know Josh isn't going to have your back over several other people, same goes for Kyle and CT.
they sent kyle in... they got to a point where you just have to win and they failed to do that, they could not secure there own safety and thats on them
I think we're putting too much stock into who is/isn't in trouble. Maybe I'm just being optimistic but we don't know the format and this late into the game it comes down to which team/pair/individual wins the daily and they can take a shot at anyone. If it's teams, maybe they'll target the other teams perceived strongest members.
I will keep telling myself that and pray Amanda finishes first and Big T gets a heroic Devyn-style final finish. I stanned Big T last season but sis knew better than to gas out on a half mile run.
TYB/LL screwed themselves by not working with the rookies to get the other vets out. They're dumb if they thought someone like Kaycee, Tori, Josh, etc had their back in the end
Let's say the tried to work with the rookies early on. What are the odds any of them would still be there?
It would've turned out better then this mess.....the rookies don't know enough about how to play the game to execute an all rookie final, so they could've run the game, by bondinf with some rookies and having the numbers to turn on the other vets first. Cory wouldn't have ended up being the first male vet out.
Who says the rookies would have sided with them? I don't see that at all and I think we'll see the remaining rookies aren't with them
Cory left first before. What difference does it make if you're the first vet male out or second?
They played their best game they just didn't execute after the midpoint.
kvm is right for once, if they created numbers from the start they would still be there, there late/mid game exuation was bad
Nahh I think they played the best game for CT to get to the end not for Cory and Nelson to get to the end. When it was all vets left you need the numbers on your side otherwise u might as well go out first. If they could've thrown someone like Josh or Kyle in they would've had a better shot of having the numbers in the end, instead of getting rid of some of these rookies. Sure u don't know where the rookies stand but u for sure know Josh isn't going to have your back over several other people, same goes for Kyle and CT. Then someone like Kaycee that voted in Nelson several times indeed DA will not have your back, same goes for Tori. They put themselves in this sh** position for not thinking about how the game would play out when it was all vets. Play to win not to get to final 7.
That's where we disagree. I think they absolutely thought the other guys had their back and maybe they would have depending on what happened and how things play out.
I like Ashley but she had to go for the greater good. Now the female side is wide open and it wouldn't shock me if any of them won (besides maybe Big T)
Now Nany and Amanda have no obstacles and they'll share 1st and 2nd place
The last few seasons' themes have not matched the cast and vice versa. TM needed more politically savvy players to counteract Wes and Banana's dominance. Dee thought she was doing something but she was just messy. DA could have used messier players to bring more drama to the table. I don't ever have to see him again, but this season would have been perfect for Wes to form an army of rookies. And Kam would have not only used rookies to take out vets, but she would have understood the need to pit Tori against Kaycee. Ashley is a huge threat but she's easier to get rid of.
I think we're putting too much stock into who is/isn't in trouble. Maybe I'm just being optimistic but we don't know the format and this late into the game it comes down to which team/pair/individual wins the daily and they can take a shot at anyone. If it's teams, maybe they'll target the other teams perceived strongest members.
I will keep telling myself that and pray Amanda finishes first and Big T gets a heroic Devyn-style final finish. I stanned Big T last season but sis knew better than to gas out on a half mile run.
All true. My concern for Nelson though is he's the second biggest threat on paper. As far as Amanda goes the concern would be they dislike her and want her gone. We know Amanda causes drama.
The last few seasons' themes have not matched the cast and vice versa. TM needed more politically savvy players to counteract Wes and Banana's dominance. Dee thought she was doing something but she was just messy. DA could have used messier players to bring more drama to the table. I don't ever have to see him again, but this season would have been perfect for Wes to form an army of rookies. And Kam would have not only used rookies to take out vets, but she would have understood the need to pit Tori against Kaycee. Ashley is a huge threat but she's easier to get rid of.
agree with this! This season would've been so much better with people like Wes and Kam that understand how to leverage rookies to make their games better and get to the end.
The last few seasons' themes have not matched the cast and vice versa. TM needed more politically savvy players to counteract Wes and Banana's dominance. Dee thought she was doing something but she was just messy. DA could have used messier players to bring more drama to the table. I don't ever have to see him again, but this season would have been perfect for Wes to form an army of rookies. And Kam would have not only used rookies to take out vets, but she would have understood the need to pit Tori against Kaycee. Ashley is a huge threat but she's easier to get rid of.
She declined and flopped hard at the end of last season strategically
The last few seasons' themes have not matched the cast and vice versa. TM needed more politically savvy players to counteract Wes and Banana's dominance. Dee thought she was doing something but she was just messy. DA could have used messier players to bring more drama to the table. I don't ever have to see him again, but this season would have been perfect for Wes to form an army of rookies. And Kam would have not only used rookies to take out vets, but she would have understood the need to pit Tori against Kaycee. Ashley is a huge threat but she's easier to get rid of.
agree with this! This season would've been so much better with people like Wes and Kam that understand how to leverage rookies to make their games better and get to the end.
amen! the game needs more game players and strategists. i didn't hate the inclusion of bb at first, but look at the material of who they cast now: josh and kaycee won their seasons by playing safe and sticking to a large group, and they've shown to do the same here, which has encouraged other vets to do the same
The last few seasons' themes have not matched the cast and vice versa. TM needed more politically savvy players to counteract Wes and Banana's dominance. Dee thought she was doing something but she was just messy. DA could have used messier players to bring more drama to the table. I don't ever have to see him again, but this season would have been perfect for Wes to form an army of rookies. And Kam would have not only used rookies to take out vets, but she would have understood the need to pit Tori against Kaycee. Ashley is a huge threat but she's easier to get rid of.
agree with this! This season would've been so much better with people like Wes and Kam that understand how to leverage rookies to make their games better and get to the end.
If Big T did make the final, I do wonder how she would compete. I wish it was a team final because imagine big t and tori are on the same team and big t loses it for them
If Big T did make the final, I do wonder how she would compete. I wish it was a team final because imagine big t and tori are on the same team and big t loses it for them
It's individual, no way it's teams and Big T is still around.
So I'm guessing its a 10 person final
Nahh I think they played the best game for CT to get to the end not for Cory and Nelson to get to the end. When it was all vets left you need the numbers on your side otherwise u might as well go out first. If they could've thrown someone like Josh or Kyle in they would've had a better shot of having the numbers in the end, instead of getting rid of some of these rookies. Sure u don't know where the rookies stand but u for sure know Josh isn't going to have your back over several other people, same goes for Kyle and CT. Then someone like Kaycee that voted in Nelson several times indeed DA will not have your back, same goes for Tori. They put themselves in this sh** position for not thinking about how the game would play out when it was all vets. Play to win not to get to final 7.
I like Ashley but she had to go for the greater good. Now the female side is wide open and it wouldn't shock me if any of them won (besides maybe Big T)
Now Nany and Amanda have no obstacles and they'll share 1st and 2nd place
they sent kyle in... they got to a point where you just have to win and they failed to do that, they could not secure there own safety and thats on them
I think we're putting too much stock into who is/isn't in trouble. Maybe I'm just being optimistic but we don't know the format and this late into the game it comes down to which team/pair/individual wins the daily and they can take a shot at anyone. If it's teams, maybe they'll target the other teams perceived strongest members.
I will keep telling myself that and pray Amanda finishes first and Big T gets a heroic Devyn-style final finish. I stanned Big T last season but sis knew better than to gas out on a half mile run.
That's where we disagree. I think they absolutely thought the other guys had their back and maybe they would have depending on what happened and how things play out.
amanda is next on the chopping block...
The last few seasons' themes have not matched the cast and vice versa. TM needed more politically savvy players to counteract Wes and Banana's dominance. Dee thought she was doing something but she was just messy. DA could have used messier players to bring more drama to the table. I don't ever have to see him again, but this season would have been perfect for Wes to form an army of rookies. And Kam would have not only used rookies to take out vets, but she would have understood the need to pit Tori against Kaycee. Ashley is a huge threat but she's easier to get rid of.
All true. My concern for Nelson though is he's the second biggest threat on paper. As far as Amanda goes the concern would be they dislike her and want her gone. We know Amanda causes drama.
agree with this! This season would've been so much better with people like Wes and Kam that understand how to leverage rookies to make their games better and get to the end.
Team Emy and Amanda!
Amanda and Emy are our only hope for the girls
and Emanuel, Logan and Nelson for the guys
Amanda and Emy are our only hope for the girls
and Emanuel, Logan and Nelson for the guys
She declined and flopped hard at the end of last season strategically
Remember you can't win unless.you get to F7
Nany making 2 finals in a row, IKTR!
amen! the game needs more game players and strategists. i didn't hate the inclusion of bb at first, but look at the material of who they cast now: josh and kaycee won their seasons by playing safe and sticking to a large group, and they've shown to do the same here, which has encouraged other vets to do the same
Ashley is texting Kam right this moment politicking for next season.
but really I feel like C*** is coming back next season too tbh. So I see them 3 running the game cutthroat style and casuals hating the season
If individual elims started with ed and or priscilla then we should be at episode 14?
ALL FACTS
I think she would have made the TM final had it not been for that skull twist
If Big T did make the final, I do wonder how she would compete. I wish it was a team final because imagine big t and tori are on the same team and big t loses it for them
i'm jumping on the nany train! queen!
If Josh and Nany are partners (since Nany loves being his partner) somehow, they are making the final.
If the main game is individual now, I see Josh / Big T being eliminated next . Anybody else would be a surprise
It's individual, no way it's teams and Big T is still around.
tori will not win this season. it's pride month and she tweeted gay slurs in the past. karma comes back to bite, especially the lgbtq+ kind
Honestly i hope josh makes it to the final so we can see him crying and calling for medical a quarter of the way in
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