The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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yeah these vets are thick in the head fr. EVERY SEASON ashley and kyle are typically the first targeted (ashley right away for being one of very few female champs, and kyle towards the end after riding a bigger alliance's coattails and waiting too late to do anything). they really should've seen this coming and done something sooner while they had the numbers

But when did they have the numbers?   Ashley being targeted right away is exactly why she wanted to play the game this way

I just remember Double Agents premiered in December and didn't end until April oh yeah I would've been quit this show is too long 

 

yeah these vets are thick in the head fr. EVERY SEASON ashley and kyle are typically the first targeted (ashley right away for being one of very few female champs, and kyle towards the end after riding a bigger alliance's coattails and waiting too late to do anything). they really should've seen this coming and done something sooner while they had the numbers

But when did they have the numbers?   Ashley being targeted right away is exactly why she wanted to play the game this way

in the beginning, play with the vets - it made the most sense for them regardless of the boring boot order. down the line while rookie numbers dwindle, they could've used the remaining rookies to pull a move to flip the game dynamics in their favor. but they waited too long and now have no numbers to pull an upset

i remember the days where i could re watch challenge seasons but now i can't even make it past episode 5

I don't need Ashley to win because I can already see people comparing her to Evelyn...

yeah these vets are thick in the head fr. EVERY SEASON ashley and kyle are typically the first targeted (ashley right away for being one of very few female champs, and kyle towards the end after riding a bigger alliance's coattails and waiting too late to do anything). they really should've seen this coming and done something sooner while they had the numbers

But when did they have the numbers?   Ashley being targeted right away is exactly why she wanted to play the game this way

in the beginning, play with the vets - it made the most sense for them regardless of the boring boot order. down the line while rookie numbers dwindle, they could've used the remaining rookies to pull a move to flip the game dynamics in their favor. but they waited too long and now have no numbers to pull an upset

I'm just not convinced that group would have built good relationships with the rookies to make that kind of move.  I'm also convinced they probably thought they had the numbers and that CT/Tori were with them so they'd be fine.

I don't need Ashley to win because I can already see people comparing her to Evelyn...

I feel like that would be shot down instantly--maybe she gets compared to Veronica

I bet season 38 will not feel as long because I bet it will be without quarantine restraints and if they are smart they will not dump All Stars 2 on Paramount Network until after Season 37 run is done. That can give them a longer break between seasons 37 and 38 to give the cast/production a extended break that they all def desperately need after this shit show of a long *** season.

 

 

I really don't see myself doing another long season of spoilers after this one. Maybe I am just over it since it has been going for so long and this past week has been bad timing for me by the time of next season I would be hype about speculation again.

They need to go back to the 4-6 weeks of filming lol

when did they do 4-6 weeks of filming? two-three full months isnt the norm?

 Before Dirty 30 it was max 6 weeks

wait a minute, this is hell. yall were living

Millionaire Ashley>>>Pocket Change Evelyn

I bet season 38 will not feel as long because I bet it will be without quarantine restraints and if they are smart they will not dump All Stars 2 on Paramount Network until after Season 37 run is done. That can give them a longer break between seasons 37 and 38 to give the cast/production a extended break that they all def desperately need after this shit show of a long *** season.

What we aren't going to do is push back All-Stars. That better be airing by Labor Day.

 

I bet season 38 will not feel as long because I bet it will be without quarantine restraints and if they are smart they will not dump All Stars 2 on Paramount Network until after Season 37 run is done. That can give them a longer break between seasons 37 and 38 to give the cast/production a extended break that they all def desperately need after this shit show of a long *** season.

What we aren't going to do is push back All-Stars. That better be airing by Labor Day.

That is just dumb. Why air 2 seasons simutaneously? I never got why they did it for All Stars 1 and I hope they do not do it again. Makes the off season pass by faster when we had the Champs VS seasons in between.

I just remember Double Agents premiered in December and didn't end until April oh yeah I would've been quit this show is too long 

and this made me realize that the double agents era was actually 9 months straight lol a whole pregnancy

filming started in august, ended on halloween, promo started exactly 6 days later and then it aired. idk how someone like Aneesa can deal with the constant cycle 

emy, logan or emmanuel could win this whole thing. thats crazy to think about

what is yall obsession with these europeans its weird af

This seasons finale will probably be at the end of December lmao 

I bet season 38 will not feel as long because I bet it will be without quarantine restraints and if they are smart they will not dump All Stars 2 on Paramount Network until after Season 37 run is done. That can give them a longer break between seasons 37 and 38 to give the cast/production a extended break that they all def desperately need after this shit show of a long *** season.

What we aren't going to do is push back All-Stars. That better be airing by Labor Day.

That is just dumb. Why air 2 seasons simutaneously? I never got why they did it for All Stars 1 and I hope they do not do it again. Makes the off season pass my faster when we had the Champs VS seasons in between.

The overlapped last time plus Paramount needs material--badly

emy, logan or emmanuel could win this whole thing. thats crazy to think about

what is yall obsession with these europeans its weird af

I think they just meant a rookie but that's not crazy since the same thing happened last season when Amber won

 

emy, logan or emmanuel could win this whole thing. thats crazy to think about

what is yall obsession with these europeans its weird af

Because Americans suck 

Dirty 30 and FR spoiler season sucked because it had the redemption house and it was only every 2 weeks spoilers leaked out. WOTW1 was def the best recent season with spoilers because of the excitement of Johnny and CT going back to back followed by Zach soon after.

I remember before dirty 30, I'd always complain about how they need to make the cast bigger. Now, I think they should go back to alternating between 26-32 people 

 

I bet season 38 will not feel as long because I bet it will be without quarantine restraints and if they are smart they will not dump All Stars 2 on Paramount Network until after Season 37 run is done. That can give them a longer break between seasons 37 and 38 to give the cast/production a extended break that they all def desperately need after this shit show of a long *** season.

What we aren't going to do is push back All-Stars. That better be airing by Labor Day.

That is just dumb. Why air 2 seasons simutaneously? I never got why they did it for All Stars 1 and I hope they do not do it again. Makes the off season pass my faster when we had the Champs VS seasons in between.

The overlapped last time plus Paramount needs material--badly

They have that new streaming show now with Whoopi Goldberg on there and that movie that got dumped on there with Mark Wahlberg. They should be set for awhile lmao.

Dirty 30 and FR spoiler season sucked because it had the redemption house and it was only every 2 weeks spoilers leaked out. WOTW1 was def the best recent season with spoilers because of the excitement of Johnny and CT going back to back followed by Zach soon after.

Yeah WOTW went Champ, Champ, Champ, Champ, Leroy, Amanda, Jenna then Kam--definitely not something we're used to getting and more interesting than rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie, rookie lol

I bet season 38 will not feel as long because I bet it will be without quarantine restraints and if they are smart they will not dump All Stars 2 on Paramount Network until after Season 37 run is done. That can give them a longer break between seasons 37 and 38 to give the cast/production a extended break that they all def desperately need after this shit show of a long *** season.

What we aren't going to do is push back All-Stars. That better be airing by Labor Day.

That is just dumb. Why air 2 seasons simutaneously? I never got why they did it for All Stars 1 and I hope they do not do it again. Makes the off season pass my faster when we had the Champs VS seasons in between.

The overlapped last time plus Paramount needs material--badly

They have that new streaming show now with Whoopi on there and that movie that got dumped on there with Mark Wahlberg. They should be set for awhile lmao.

They need about 1000 more things  lol

 

emy, logan or emmanuel could win this whole thing. thats crazy to think about

what is yall obsession with these europeans its weird af

lol what? i mean gamer said logan could be the turbo of this season, and emy's been on a elimination streak. what's weird about it lol?

Didn't WOTW2 Have Wes>Laurel>Bananas too? I was shook especially by Laurel

I remember Laurel elimination because Jenna was the one who spoiled it out of all people Lmao ugh those were the Vevmo days TAKE ME BACK

 

emy, logan or emmanuel could win this whole thing. thats crazy to think about

what is yall obsession with these europeans its weird af

Because we don't like most of the US vets? like keep up

Didn't WOTW2 Have Wes>Laurel>Bananas too? I was shook especially by Laurel

Great point. I just remember the WOTW1 spoilers firing off so quickly it seemed like.

Didn't WOTW2 Have Wes>Laurel>Bananas too? I was shook especially by Laurel

i feel like thats what every season needs, a shock factor by a big name going out early then being intrigued by how the rest of the season goes

I remember Laurel elimination because Jenna was the one who spoiled it out of all people Lmao ugh those were the Vevmo days TAKE ME BACK

It was a random twitter user who is a casual challenge fan who did not even know a season was being filmed. She saw Laurel and Jenna out in Michigan somewhere and was all excited. And then people were attacking her because they were pissed Laurel was out lmao.

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