The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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the guys in the house overrate tori because shes a gym rat. I cant remember one shining moment from Tori in a daily or final

I feel like the guys would know better.. And she doesn't give up, she looked good in the WotW final until the puzzle. I'm not sayin she's Laurel or Emily but I don't think she's weak or mediocre.

Yeah I mean she's not balanced as a finals runner but she did do well on WOTW2.

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Listen, I ******* LOVE Amanda. But what puzzles has she won that weren't the bloodbath? I'm honestly asking, I can't remember. She's solid as ****, and I adore the *****.

Also Kaycee was good at all the puzzles on DA, and she was good at the mental comps on BB. I think people take one bad performance (at math) and start thinking someone is dumb as rocks.

At some point a level of intelligence has to be exhibited and not a lot of these people have that which is why CT will keep winning until someone smarter and faster gets put on the show. They got rid of Theo and Turbo two of the only newcomers who can stand toe to toe with CT in a final IMO ❤️

Listen, I ******* LOVE Amanda. But what puzzles has she won that weren't the bloodbath? I'm honestly asking, I can't remember. She's solid as ****, and I adore the *****.

Also Kaycee was good at all the puzzles on DA, and she was good at the mental comps on BB. I think people take one bad performance (at math) and start thinking someone is dumb as rocks.

One that stuck out was her on FR memorizing all the things in the cage to win that daily. She thinks ahead and that's something Kaycee or Tori would never do.

Ashley can run better than both kaycee and tori and is also smarter than both of them. They gotta go in another tier cause IMO finals wise they're not on ashley's level

i agree. i think ashley is the CT for the girls side. 

Ashley about to get her 3rd win. That's right

I think everyone has to agree that there are certain finals that could cater to certain people. If a final relies on physical strength, carrying things, pulling sleds, whatever.. Tori and Kaycee would be top tier. Puzzle heavy? Tori drops a tier, Ashley jumps above everyone. It really just depends and it's been shown, puzzles have been really helping people in finals.

Now that i think about it amanda's endurance i would hope is on par with tori's(it isn't that great to begin with) and we know amanda is better at puzzles and math than tori so IMO amanda could definitely beat tori in a final

amanda really has barely anything going for her. people act like she has cooke level potential because they're in denial that she's a bottom tier girl.

which is why they pulled "shes a great runner" out of their ***** because no one has ever seen that girl run long distance.

amanda really has barely anything going for her. people act like she has cooke level potential because they're in denial that she's a bottom tier girl.

which is why they pulled "shes a great runner" out of their ***** because no one has ever seen that girl run long distance.

we'll she's not the best but she's one of the smartest girls left. she'll be extremely helpful in a final. 

some of yall need to give it up. NANY AND AMANDA HAVE NO CHANCE IN A FINAL.

amanda really has barely anything going for her. people act like she has cooke level potential because they're in denial that she's a bottom tier girl.

which is why they pulled "shes a great runner" out of their ***** because no one has ever seen that girl run long distance.

rewatch FR

I think people are letting their opinion of people impact how they think they'd do in a final especially when one has never seen a final

I think everyone has to agree that there are certain finals that could cater to certain people. If a final relies on physical strength, carrying things, pulling sleds, whatever.. Tori and Kaycee would be top tier. Puzzle heavy? Tori drops a tier, Ashley jumps above everyone. It really just depends and it's been shown, puzzles have been really helping people in finals.

yup. If the final is puzzle heavy then Ashley is top tier and Amanda is second tier and Kaycee and Tori drop below them. If it's endurance heavy then Ashley and Kaycee are at the top, Tori is below them and Amanda is probably below Tori. If it's a lot of strength and carrying then Tori and Kaycee are at the top, etc.

There's a lot of variables based on partners and what the final actually looks like but I'd say the only thing we can probably agree on is that Ashley is the most balanced overall for the girls.

I'm so over this season I don't even get any enjoyment coming in here talking about how "Yas Amanda and Nelson are winning" because even if they did... this format and boot list is so boring, the game will be a snooze to watch.

all i have to say is

 

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amanda really has barely anything going for her. people act like she has cooke level potential because they're in denial that she's a bottom tier girl.

which is why they pulled "shes a great runner" out of their ***** because no one has ever seen that girl run long distance.

who is even hyping her up like that? Where? Cause all people are saying is she's good at puzzles and she's a good runner (and yes we did see it, but it was before becoming a mother and taking time off. She was one of the better runners on the challenger team that Ashley was part of, right up with Shane and Nicole who have excellent endurance).

And that "bottom tier girl" won half of the challenges on Final Reckoning and it wasn't only because of her ******* partner.

 

amanda really has barely anything going for her. people act like she has cooke level potential because they're in denial that she's a bottom tier girl.

which is why they pulled "shes a great runner" out of their ***** because no one has ever seen that girl run long distance.

rewatch FR

to watch zach carry her 80% of the time in dailies? like hello, she does better with bigger guys because bigger guys can carry her. josh LITERALLY carried her in wotw1 in that elimination.

I'm so over this season I don't even get any enjoyment coming in here talking about how "Yas Amanda and Nelson are winning" because even if they did... this format and boot list is so boring, the game will be a snooze to watch.

exactly which is why SeauxMTV view will be lost in the mail after my faves get booted this will be a slightly better season than DA and that's really because of the rookies.

in all seriousness, if cory WAS targeting CT, i can easily see devin/kyle even josh ratting back to CT, and he becomes the target.

cory's the only one who has ever made a point tryign to target the "threats" on these shows (darrell, bananas), and once again he keeps getting trashed for it.

 

BYE BYE CORY!! 

 

 

amanda really has barely anything going for her. people act like she has cooke level potential because they're in denial that she's a bottom tier girl.

which is why they pulled "shes a great runner" out of their ***** because no one has ever seen that girl run long distance.

who is even hyping her up like that? Where? Cause all people are saying is she's good at puzzles and she's a good runner (and yes we did see it, but it was before becoming a mother and taking time off. She was one of the better runners on the challenger team that Ashley was part of, right up with Shane and Nicole who have excellent endurance).

And that "bottom tier girl" won half of the challenges on Final Reckoning and it wasn't only because of her ******* partner.

 

I think everyone has to agree that there are certain finals that could cater to certain people. If a final relies on physical strength, carrying things, pulling sleds, whatever.. Tori and Kaycee would be top tier. Puzzle heavy? Tori drops a tier, Ashley jumps above everyone. It really just depends and it's been shown, puzzles have been really helping people in finals.

yup. If the final is puzzle heavy then Ashley is top tier and Amanda is second tier and Kaycee and Tori drop below them. If it's endurance heavy then Ashley and Kaycee are at the top, Tori is below them and Amanda is probably below Tori. If it's a lot of strength and carrying then Tori and Kaycee are at the top, etc.

There's a lot of variables based on partners and what the final actually looks like but I'd say the only thing we can probably agree on is that Ashley is the most balanced overall for the girls.

Exactly. Out of these girls, there's no perfect all around competitor. I hate her, but (recent) Cara Maria is one of those perfect competitors.

Amanda was always pretty good in dailies even without Zach. Dailies are a better indication of how someone would do in a final than eliminations are. That's why there's potential there but we won't know until she gets there.

It's the same reason people thought Jonna would do well in a final despite never getting there. They're very similar competitors.

Honestly yall underrate Kaycee's puzzle skills and overrate her endurance. She sucks at math (though she did get better from TM to DA , she's okay with puzzles), but her endurance is not all that. She got last in her first final out of everyone that wasn't injured/pregnant and she was struggling to keep up the pace in her last final even before the injury. She also finished in like 6th in the mini final last season.

I think people are letting her physicality overrate her ability in finals, but she's also not that dumb, and this is coming from someone who hates her.

Honestly yall underrate Kaycee's puzzle skills and overrate her endurance. She sucks at math (though she did get better from TM to DA , she's okay with puzzles), but her endurance is not all that. She got last in her first final out of everyone that wasn't injured/pregnant and she was struggling to keep up the pace in her last final even before the injury. She also finished in like 6th in the mini final last season.

I think people are letting her physicality overrate her ability in finals, but she's also not that dumb, and this is coming from someone who hates her.

 

 

amanda really has barely anything going for her. people act like she has cooke level potential because they're in denial that she's a bottom tier girl.

which is why they pulled "shes a great runner" out of their ***** because no one has ever seen that girl run long distance.

rewatch FR

to watch zach carry her 80% of the time in dailies? like hello, she does better with bigger guys because bigger guys can carry her. josh LITERALLY carried her in wotw1 in that elimination.

You sound so stupid, almost as stupid as you did on twitter earlier.

Amanda performed just as well and sometimes better than Zach, and she was also ahead of Josh I thst elimination (moving faster and higher than him) until HE fell. Can you please just go back to getting roasted on Twitter?

If Amanda is out I will die 

Ratings after Berna Amber and Jeremiah leave back to back

 

amanda really has barely anything going for her. people act like she has cooke level potential because they're in denial that she's a bottom tier girl.

which is why they pulled "shes a great runner" out of their ***** because no one has ever seen that girl run long distance.

who is even hyping her up like that? Where? Cause all people are saying is she's good at puzzles and she's a good runner (and yes we did see it, but it was before becoming a mother and taking time off. She was one of the better runners on the challenger team that Ashley was part of, right up with Shane and Nicole who have excellent endurance).

And that "bottom tier girl" won half of the challenges on Final Reckoning and it wasn't only because of her ******* partner.

okay so where are the facts? where are the receipts? because all this doesn't mean anything, being one of the better runners on the challengers team doesn't mean anything because half the team was composed of weaker competitors with bruno, anthony, dario, marie, latoya etc. ashley and nicole were her only competition on that team.

and that bottom tier girl won half cause of zach. she wouldn't have won that many if it wasn't for him because god knows she wouldn't have done the same thing with any other girl, but zach could win that many with any other girl or guy.

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