The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 2

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You can't call Nelson and Cory dumb as can be (they are) and then turn around and praise Tori when she's also dumb as can be is all I'm saying. Let's keep that same energy because they're all bottom of the barrel in the brains department.

Tori's smarter in terms of gameplay and in general than both of them.  Tori just sucks at puzzles although did solve one to make a final on XXX.   I don't believe for a second either of those guys are as smart as Tori.

What gameplay? Being a floater because Jenna/Kailah and Cara/Camila were too busy targetting each other? Fair but also not like some stunning play there. Sucked on FR and was gone early. Sucked on WOTW2 and was constantly targetted, sucked on TM and DA. Her only good season socially was XXX and that's cause she was in the shadows lol.

Jordan solved the puzzle for her to get into the final if i remember. 

why are we making multiple accounts for Vevmo of all places.....

Like if you get banned from Vevmo even once that's probably a sign you should re-evaluate some things

Tori has shown to be one of the dumbest people ever, **** i know the blonde hair be blinding you kevin but jesus christ 

why are we making multiple accounts for Vevmo of all places.....

Tori has shown to be one of the dumbest people ever, **** i know the blonde hair be blinding you kevin but jesus christ 

Her last 2 elim performances solidfied that for me **** like you know it's bad when Jenna is outstrategizing you and you won't even listen to you fiance and continue to push tiny pieces of plaster through the holes or when you can't think to push a cart back to try to get momentum. 

 

on the fact he has a storyline 

he does? all i ever saw was that he's close with Emy lol

Gamer i think said him and Michele had a showmance 

When are y'all gonna learn that having a little "storyline" doesn't mean it's interesting or that you're interesting 

Cool. Until I hear anything about logan Emanuel is more interesting 

 

Tori has shown to be one of the dumbest people ever, **** i know the blonde hair be blinding you kevin but jesus christ 

Her last 2 elim performances solidfied that for me **** like you know it's bad when Jenna is outstrategizing you and you won't even listen to you fiance and continue to push tiny pieces of plaster through the holes or when you can't think to push a cart back to try to get momentum. 

she's also socially inept every one else her age makes long lasting relationships. she has what Aneesa?? she's a bumbling idiot and it's pretty insulting to act like she's anything otherwise 

 

 

on the fact he has a storyline 

he does? all i ever saw was that he's close with Emy lol

Gamer i think said him and Michele had a showmance 

When are y'all gonna learn that having a little "storyline" doesn't mean it's interesting or that you're interesting 

Cool. Until I hear anything about logan Emanuel is more interesting 

im banking on him being a landon type but i had also hoped that for joss and we saw how that turned out lol

we'll see. I'd like for either/or to do well over these lame *** vets

The fact people think Tori is less intelligent than Cory and Nelson shows the bias here.  I'm sorry but that doesn't even make sense.   If I was saying Tori was smarter than Kam or Amanda or even Ashley then you'd have a point but we're talking about Cory and Nelson here.  

 

Yep they dropped cara, dropped dee which was fair but didnt drop all their other white racist/sexist white men. They dropped jenny and they were about to drop amber lol.

they're scared someone's gonna come close to the number of wins that bananas/ct/Wes have 

I don't know why people act like Wes is a 10x champ lol he's only won twice and his last win was 8 years ago

The fact people think Tori is less intelligent than Cory and Nelson shows the bias here.  I'm sorry but that doesn't even make sense.   If I was saying Tori was smarter than Kam or Amanda or even Ashley then you'd have a point but we're talking about Cory and Nelson here.  

She's been arguably one of the worst girls in puzzles/strategy in the modern era. Just a tier above Nicole who takes the cake as dumbest possibly ever.

The fact people think Tori is less intelligent than Cory and Nelson shows the bias here.  I'm sorry but that doesn't even make sense.   If I was saying Tori was smarter than Kam or Amanda or even Ashley then you'd have a point but we're talking about Cory and Nelson here.  

no it shows you're stuck in the past, Cory has made two straight finals, he's solved his puzzles, he social maneuvers, he's placed himself in the position to be a go to vet every one including Tori dumb *** goes to. 

it is not invasion of the champions any more please get over it and live in 2021 

What would be the worst outcome of the two winners this season in your opinion and the best?

Josh and Nany

You can't call Nelson and Cory dumb as can be (they are) and then turn around and praise Tori when she's also dumb as can be is all I'm saying. Let's keep that same energy because they're all bottom of the barrel in the brains department.

at the very least weve seen cory and nelson solve puzzles.  ppl like hunter and tori are legit dumb 

has there been any new information today? 

i honestly do not believe you have watched or even had an eye open about this show since dirty 30...i mean we have people on here that 100% speak on finals they did not watch.

it's okay to admit you aren't watching the show. just say that 

Still waiting on that Amanda running proof 

The fact people think Tori is less intelligent than Cory and Nelson shows the bias here.  I'm sorry but that doesn't even make sense.   If I was saying Tori was smarter than Kam or Amanda or even Ashley then you'd have a point but we're talking about Cory and Nelson here.  

She's been arguably one of the worst girls in puzzles/strategy in the modern era. Just a tier above Nicole who takes the cake as dumbest possibly ever.

Yeah, she's not even close to Nicole--again she solved a puzzle for a spot in the XXX final.  She's not good at puzzles but she's finished one before securing that final.

 

You can't call Nelson and Cory dumb as can be (they are) and then turn around and praise Tori when she's also dumb as can be is all I'm saying. Let's keep that same energy because they're all bottom of the barrel in the brains department.

at the very least weve seen cory and nelson solve puzzles.  ppl like hunter and tori are legit dumb 

this^

Cory had his Invasion final which was pathetic and he's not the brightest and Nelson has his "Nelson-isms" with how he speaks but Tori, albeit a good narrator, has been terrible in puzzles, strategy, and with the exception of XXX, socially navigating the game as well

But she can narrate and is pretty (to kvm I guess) so let's just ignore that I guess

 

 

Tori has shown to be one of the dumbest people ever, **** i know the blonde hair be blinding you kevin but jesus christ 

Her last 2 elim performances solidfied that for me **** like you know it's bad when Jenna is outstrategizing you and you won't even listen to you fiance and continue to push tiny pieces of plaster through the holes or when you can't think to push a cart back to try to get momentum. 

she's also socially inept every one else her age makes long lasting relationships. she has what Aneesa?? she's a bumbling idiot and it's pretty insulting to act like she's anything otherwise 

tori is a *******, she needs gameplay like Nany...if Nany had Caras endurance she'd prob be a multi time champ right now

Cory n Nelson in puzzles > Tori in puzzles 

 

The fact people think Tori is less intelligent than Cory and Nelson shows the bias here.  I'm sorry but that doesn't even make sense.   If I was saying Tori was smarter than Kam or Amanda or even Ashley then you'd have a point but we're talking about Cory and Nelson here.  

She's been arguably one of the worst girls in puzzles/strategy in the modern era. Just a tier above Nicole who takes the cake as dumbest possibly ever.

Yeah, she's not even close to Nicole--again she solved a puzzle for a spot in the XXX final.  She's not good at puzzles but she's finished one before securing that final.

Because Tony and Hunter can't use a crowbar and took their teams out of contention. She and Jordan just had to finish it by default, I would hope she could do it lol 

let's not praise her for the bare minimum if we aren't going to look at what others have done too

The fact people think Tori is less intelligent than Cory and Nelson shows the bias here.  I'm sorry but that doesn't even make sense.   If I was saying Tori was smarter than Kam or Amanda or even Ashley then you'd have a point but we're talking about Cory and Nelson here.  

no it shows you're stuck in the past, Cory has made two straight finals, he's solved his puzzles, he social maneuvers, he's placed himself in the position to be a go to vet every one including Tori dumb *** goes to. 

it is not invasion of the champions any more please get over it and live in 2021 

Cory literally just watched partner after partner go home last season so he wasn't even eligible to be voted in.  He ended up going against Darrell and pulled off a great win but last season was far from a great political game.  I don't give Ashley credit for her friends throwing away their game to protect her so why would i give that to Cory.

We'll see how this season plays out but all seasons matter because they give us an idea what happens in the future.  Cory is still going to probably make a mistake--like picking Ashley too soon as a partner

Tori got outsmarted by jenna of all people on total madness. She's dumb

I think Cory and Nelson have grown a lot since Invasions/Dirty 30, especially Cory. It could just be a change of edit but Cory's a public figure and recently he hasn't been involved in much drama or controversies that don't involve the Challenge, so I doubt it's a facade. Cory himself has matured a lot more in 8 seasons than people like Bananas have in 20 seasons. He'll probably be even smarter and better in a couple years and he's probably going to win eventually

The fact people think Tori is less intelligent than Cory and Nelson shows the bias here.  I'm sorry but that doesn't even make sense.   If I was saying Tori was smarter than Kam or Amanda or even Ashley then you'd have a point but we're talking about Cory and Nelson here.  

She's been arguably one of the worst girls in puzzles/strategy in the modern era. Just a tier above Nicole who takes the cake as dumbest possibly ever.

Yeah, she's not even close to Nicole--again she solved a puzzle for a spot in the XXX final.  She's not good at puzzles but she's finished one before securing that final.

Because Tony and Hunter can't use a crowbar and took their teams out of contention. She and Jordan just had to finish it by default, I would hope she could do it lol 

let's not praise her for the bare minimum if we aren't going to look at what others have done too

She beat Camila who shockingly isn't bad at puzzles despite being insane.  I'm not saying she's great.  I'm saying she's smarter than two people that would probably agree that she's smarter than them.

girl i literally know better than to do this back and forth. at least the room knows how ridiculous this sounds. if Big T wasn't there Tori would be the worst vet left in the game the end 

She beat Camila who shockingly isn't bad at puzzles despite being insane.  I'm not saying she's great.  I'm saying she's smarter than two people that would probably agree that she's smarter than them.

Amazing, she beat 1 person 1 time at a puzzle and has failed miserably at all other aspects of using her brain when tested but there was that one time at least!

girl i literally know better than to do this back and forth. at least the room knows how ridiculous this sounds. if Big T wasn't there Tori would be the worst vet left in the game the end 

 

You can't call Nelson and Cory dumb as can be (they are) and then turn around and praise Tori when she's also dumb as can be is all I'm saying. Let's keep that same energy because they're all bottom of the barrel in the brains department.

Tori's smarter in terms of gameplay and in general than both of them.  Tori just sucks at puzzles although did solve one to make a final on XXX.   I don't believe for a second either of those guys are as smart as Tori.

Nelson has 2 college degrees

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