The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 1

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I just can't believe even after double agents they once again let CT last this long

I see emy as a right before the finls boot

 

 

These rookies are embarrassing. And no the vets are not playing amazing games. Aligning with people who beat you for numbers over people who have no experience is dumb. If you're going to murder all of the rookies, at least do it right and make them take out strong vets with them.

There is no reason Berna should have been set up with Hughie. They should have used him for Kaycee. 

 

Why are you assuming Kaycee is a bigger threat than Berna?

Because Berna is a rookie with no experience and Kaycee has made 2 finals and never been eliminated?? Like....

And Berna is an elite athlete. Kaycee is friends with everyone and hasn't done well in finals. Thus is like thinking Laurel or Emily weren't threats when they were rookies or that the other girls shouldn't have thrown in someone good to take out Amber. 

gamer said they heard bettina's weak, i can see them pairing her up with a strong male rookie (either of the remaining 3 tbh). emy's won 2 elims so far so they can't do that setup for her unless they backdoor devin or josh. depending on how priscilla is performing, i can see her either sliding by or getting paired with another strong male rookie. either way i think we're gonna see at least 1 more rookie-rookie pair be sent out

When Hughies win to loss elimination percentage is still better than Josh

They really wasted HUGHIE on trying to get out amber and berna when kaycee and ashley are still there........

You're the one hyping Berna as a great competitor. If that's the case then it wasn't a waste at all.  On the other hand, Ashley is very beatable in eliminations so that would really be a waste. 

Kaycee, nany, cory all fall in that category of amazing social players but if they want a chance to win they all need a partner to balance out their weaknesses and they need to be better strategic players

International Survivors still at it, loving the concept.

I just can't believe even after double agents they once again let CT last this long

CT is better at the game than people acknowledge. He was smart for the whole let's take our show back. 

Kaycee, nany, cory all fall in that category of amazing social players but if they want a chance to win they all need a partner to balance out their weaknesses and they need to be better strategic players

Nany doesn't need a good partner, she needs the other girls in the final to be weak. She isn't out-running anyone and a partner there can't do much about it.

 

They really wasted HUGHIE on trying to get out amber and berna when kaycee and ashley are still there........

You're the one hyping Berna as a great competitor. If that's the case then it wasn't a waste at all.  On the other hand, Ashley is very beatable in eliminations so that would really be a waste. 

All of this. Just because people want vets out it doesn't mean the cast should be doing it. 

Nany just needs a motivational partner that can push her correctly. 

 

Kaycee, nany, cory all fall in that category of amazing social players but if they want a chance to win they all need a partner to balance out their weaknesses and they need to be better strategic players

Nany doesn't need a good partner, she needs the other girls in the final to be weak. She isn't out-running anyone and a partner there can't do much about it.

shes an okay runner. She was up against 3 of the best runners there last season tho so ofc her running is gonna look bad.

 

They really wasted HUGHIE on trying to get out amber and berna when kaycee and ashley are still there........

You're the one hyping Berna as a great competitor. If that's the case then it wasn't a waste at all.  On the other hand, Ashley is very beatable in eliminations so that would really be a waste. 

Yk what y'all are right at the end of the day it is was a good move to set berna up with hughie im just mad that she's the one who lost with him lol

Like toss CT in with big t, or Bettina or Tracy weeks ago. I don't know what's not clicking when there's been 9 eliminations and he is still in the game as a 4x champ 

Nany just needs a motivational partner that can push her correctly. 

I agree but who is that and I think that person also needs to be able to solve puzzles and do most of the heavy lifting. Leroy on paper should have been great other than the puzzle part. 

gamer said they heard bettina's weak, i can see them pairing her up with a strong male rookie (either of the remaining 3 tbh). emy's won 2 elims so far so they can't do that setup for her unless they backdoor devin or josh. depending on how priscilla is performing, i can see her either sliding by or getting paired with another strong male rookie. either way i think we're gonna see at least 1 more rookie-rookie pair be sent out

But if players that win eliminations can choose their partners, they are probably paired with a vet as of now. Vet are going to start seeing eliminations, cause the house votes for a couple, not individual.

 

 

 

These rookies are embarrassing. And no the vets are not playing amazing games. Aligning with people who beat you for numbers over people who have no experience is dumb. If you're going to murder all of the rookies, at least do it right and make them take out strong vets with them.

There is no reason Berna should have been set up with Hughie. They should have used him for Kaycee. 

 

Why are you assuming Kaycee is a bigger threat than Berna?

Because Berna is a rookie with no experience and Kaycee has made 2 finals and never been eliminated?? Like....

And Berna is an elite athlete. Kaycee is friends with everyone and hasn't done well in finals. Thus is like thinking Laurel or Emily weren't threats when they were rookies or that the other girls shouldn't have thrown in someone good to take out Amber. 

?? Being a circus performer and going on Survivor doesnt make you an "elite athlete". Kaycee is an actual athlete LMAO. Berna was clearly a threat, but Kaycee is an athlete, is more of a social threat and has more experience. The choice is clear, on paper Kaycee is a much bigger threat.

 

Kaycee, nany, cory all fall in that category of amazing social players but if they want a chance to win they all need a partner to balance out their weaknesses and they need to be better strategic players

Nany doesn't need a good partner, she needs the other girls in the final to be weak. She isn't out-running anyone and a partner there can't do much about it.

She outran Ashley in the WOTW2 elimination so

 

Nany just needs a motivational partner that can push her correctly. 

I agree but who is that and I think that person also needs to be able to solve puzzles and do most of the heavy lifting. Leroy on paper should have been great other than the puzzle part. 

idk who itd be tbh. Im not so worried abt the puzzle part anymore tho. She did rather well at them in the da final.

 

Nany just needs a motivational partner that can push her correctly. 

I agree but who is that and I think that person also needs to be able to solve puzzles and do most of the heavy lifting. Leroy on paper should have been great other than the puzzle part. 

idk who itd be tbh. Im not so worried abt the puzzle part anymore tho. She did rather well at them in the da final.

Like toss CT in with big t, or Bettina or Tracy weeks ago. I don't know what's clicking when there's been 9 eliminations and he is still in the game as a 4x champ 

Buy why?  They need numbers early on...now is when you make that move. Big T and Bettina are still there. 

 

 

Kaycee, nany, cory all fall in that category of amazing social players but if they want a chance to win they all need a partner to balance out their weaknesses and they need to be better strategic players

Nany doesn't need a good partner, she needs the other girls in the final to be weak. She isn't out-running anyone and a partner there can't do much about it.

shes an okay runner. She was up against 3 of the best runners there last season tho so ofc her running is gonna look bad.

She was up against 3 of the best runners, and Ashley wasnt there, Tori wasnt there.... There are a lot of girls that beat her easily. She's not going to reach a final and fight against BigT and Aneessa for the win.

 

 

Nany just needs a motivational partner that can push her correctly. 

I agree but who is that and I think that person also needs to be able to solve puzzles and do most of the heavy lifting. Leroy on paper should have been great other than the puzzle part. 

idk who itd be tbh. Im not so worried abt the puzzle part anymore tho. She did rather well at them in the da final.

True about the puzzle. I'm on board for a Nany win. I like her more years ago but she fights. 

 

 

Kaycee, nany, cory all fall in that category of amazing social players but if they want a chance to win they all need a partner to balance out their weaknesses and they need to be better strategic players

Nany doesn't need a good partner, she needs the other girls in the final to be weak. She isn't out-running anyone and a partner there can't do much about it.

She outran Ashley in the WOTW2 elimination so

ash had gotten lost tho. I think nany wasn't really pushing herself that hard tho cuz she heard puzzle and was up against ashley(the puzzle master) .

Honestly the 6 rookies that are left are kinda shocking. We have a duo from an international Survivor season who don't look extremely physically imposing, a soccer player, 2 girls presumably with no athletic background and an alternate man.

Credit to all of them for lasting as long as they have. I only see Emanuel/Emy/Logan having a shot at winning though.

I knew Emanuel would be SUPER likeable so im not really shocked that he's made it this far (I am shocked that both him and Emy are still in though). He got 0 votes cast against him in Survivor and you can just tell he's a really charming guy.

I had a feeling Emy would ruffle some feathers and I love her trajectory in terms of winning 2 eliminations. I think she's definitely going to serve and I can see her winning 1-2 more eliminations given the other female players left, but I can also see her being put up against a strong player. I dont see her making the final because of that.

Logan is a complete wildcard to me. He seems to have a very athletic background, but he's also the only one from his country on this season. I dont know how well he's doing socially, so I could see him being thrown in again and losing, but he did take out a guy bigger than him and he also gives me Amber B vibes so I see the potential for him to go far and possibly win.

I don't really think Bettina has any shot lmao but i'm rooting for her. Even if she's been kept as a layup, im impressed with how long she's lasted because I thought she might rub people the wrong way. While she still may have done that, she's still there and I could see her winning a surprise elimination like Hughie did. She also won her last show.

I think Priscilla has more potential than Bettina. She seems a bit more athletic and I feel like she'll do more well socially. I feel like she has a lot of potential and I could see her going far. I really don't know what else to say about her because she's given us nothing :/

Ed is also a wildcard to me. I see him being the last boot of the rookie massacre before the vets start turning on each other. He's at a disadvantage coming in as an alternate while everyone else has already made connections for a while (being in the house + the extended quarantine) and we've seen that he's already been in 1/4 of the possible eliminations. I dont think he'll do well socially.

 

 

Kaycee, nany, cory all fall in that category of amazing social players but if they want a chance to win they all need a partner to balance out their weaknesses and they need to be better strategic players

Nany doesn't need a good partner, she needs the other girls in the final to be weak. She isn't out-running anyone and a partner there can't do much about it.

She outran Ashley in the WOTW2 elimination so

No she didnt lmao ashley got lost and even when she got back her and nany were right next to each other, she got to the puzzle before nany as well 

Now an interesting game should start, because we have no idea who is paired with whom.If the rookies aren't paired with each other(which was stupid), one veteran or two go home today

 

 

 

Kaycee, nany, cory all fall in that category of amazing social players but if they want a chance to win they all need a partner to balance out their weaknesses and they need to be better strategic players

Nany doesn't need a good partner, she needs the other girls in the final to be weak. She isn't out-running anyone and a partner there can't do much about it.

shes an okay runner. She was up against 3 of the best runners there last season tho so ofc her running is gonna look bad.

She was up against 3 of the best runners, and Ashley wasnt there, Tori wasnt there.... There are a lot of girls that beat her easily. She's not going to reach a final and fight against BigT and Aneessa for the win.

Nany has a chance against tori tbh. I do agree that she needs to get ashley out of there tho.

Ugh if CT didn't save Tori then Nany woulda made the WOTW2 final like ugh what is this

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