The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 1

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Kvm spent PAGES claiming tommy would provide competition, gameplay and strategy. People said I think kelz might be the strongest, it's not the same thing but nice try newbie. 

I said "he was perfect casting based on being a survivor champs, young, athletic and strategic".  I never said he'd provide anything.

People literally said Kelz was the favorite--try again kiddo

Yes you did, check page 150 of the cast thread.

Is that when I said "Looking forward to Tori and Tommy winning" or something like that because it would **** people off not because it's what I wanted or cared about?

If you actually looked you'd see it's not that.

 

i know Kevin didn't say Vecepia is a worse winner than Tommy.....let's not get the thread off topic but **** 

You realize Vecepia is widely considered one of the worst winners, yes?  Another person I like but I'm talking about "overall" opinion not my opinion.

i don't care what reddit users think about Survivor 40 years ago. Vecepia played a great game. her personal item being journal she used to take notes on every castaway for that final 4 challenge alone was a better move than anything Tommy did. he's not the worst winner but don't do Vecepia **** 

 

Have you watched Survivor?  Ben, Tina, Danni, Vecepia, JT, Amber and even Michele are widely considered the worst winners not Tommy.  

He's a Survivor champ that's 28--as I said from the beginning--he was a lock to make the cast.  I was right.

You really threw JT on that list who played a perfect game and people were destroying their own games just to work with him? ****. Ben's the wort winner by a mile, then Chris, then creeper Bob who barely beat Susie who was a massive goat. Anyways not a Survivor thread so whatever

I like JT's game but many say he's one of the worst.   I should have included Bob and Chris as well--just rambled names people complain about.  

No one says that. He did ruin his reputation with Game Changers, but no one said his winning game was bad.

Literally on the very next page of the casting thread 

Are you talking to me?   The only person I "want to win" this season is Michaela.  I've been begging for her to be on this show for years. 

If you all aren't capable of comprehending when I'm saying something because you guys are being ridiculous then I can't help you.

KVM if you're mad at being incorrectly labeled a Tommy fan, just a guess but it's possible jumping in 5 times a day to defend his honor every time someone even slightly suggested he was boring might've contributed to that perception.

Yeah as someone who wants a lot of Survivor players to crossover here Tommy was never someone I had ever considered. Just not someone who belongs on an MTV show, he's almost certainly never coming back to Survivor since he's so boring so him being cast on this was just weird. Cutting Johnny from LI over him was an embarrassing decision on production's part

No one says that. He did ruin his reputation with Game Changers, but no one said his winning game was bad.

Google it--I promise you that you'll see his name a lot

I truly though Michaela was gonna be the Survivor to finally actually do well. If even she couldnt do well Idk who should be asked at this point lol

Anyways, the VETS are running the show. We love to see it.

 

 

He didnt even say he was rooting for Tommy

Now this is a lie 

Find anything where I said I was rooting for Tommy...

hi

bye

**** lmaoooo not y'all got the receipts ready lol

KVM if you're mad at being incorrectly labeled a Tommy fan, just a guess but it's possible jumping in 5 times a day to defend his honor every time someone even slightly suggested he was boring might've contributed to that perception.

The only thing I ever "defended" was casting him stating it was obvious which it was.  I'd say that about any Survivor winner in their 20s or early 30s that is physical.  You can all think I care Tommy is out--I don't at all but if that makes you somehow happy then believe it.

Yeah as someone who wants a lot of Survivor players to crossover here Tommy was never someone I had ever considered. Just not someone who belongs on an MTV show, he's almost certainly never coming back to Survivor since he's so boring so him being cast on this was just weird. Cutting Johnny from LI over him was an embarrassing decision on production's part

the fact that tommy has/and had a better chance of getting on the challenge than EVER going back on survivor should have been a sign. STOP CASTING  ROOKIES. 

King jeremiah using his soical game to get him to the end 

I like JT's game but many say he's one of the worst.   I should have included Bob and Chris as well--just rambled names people complain about.  

No one says that. He did ruin his reputation with Game Changers, but no one said his winning game was bad.

Agreed. If anything HvV & GC made his Tocantins game look even better since we realized he managed to dominate that much despite playing with the hinderance of being a massive idiot

Anyways, the VETS are running the show. We love to see it.

boring imo 

I wonder who was tommy's partner my first guess would be big t just cause she followed his wife

i'm kinda glad Johnny and Tre didn't get on this season, Johnny will probably be on the next after EOTB but had they all came in together theyd have gotten that Survivor treatment too ****.

being alone allows Jeremiah to be the first one of them to create bonds that Johnny might be able to use if they end up on together 

Anyways, the VETS are running the show. We love to see it.

Who is we?

when love island takes over next season>>>

I truly though Michaela was gonna be the Survivor to finally actually do well. If even she couldnt do well Idk who should be asked at this point lol

I'd still ask Michaela, she has the most potential to be another dominant female personality/competitor (especially if they're done with Natalie). Maybe Cydney as well. 

STOP CASTING  ROOKIES. 

What??

 

Anyways, the VETS are running the show. We love to see it.

Who is we?

I have a strong feeling Amanda was part of the reason Tommy is out. Queen is always looking out for the viewers for providing the entertainment

Just remember that we don't know who these people went against! They could have been taken out by some big dogs. 

I still can't believe this cast has **** near 40 people

rookies getting dragged also means there's no skulls likely. so my tail wagging regardless. i'll take what i can get to get rid of them **** skulls 

I have a strong feeling Amanda was part of the reason Tommy is out. Queen is always looking out for the viewers for providing the entertainment

Well she needs to gun for Kaycee ASAP

Hopefully Lauren makes a comeback like Ashley did so she can lead the vet resistance. The rookies need a scamming strategic leader.

**** Tommy lost. #OOMF in this thread SHAKING MAD *****

rookies getting dragged also means there's no skulls likely. so my tail wagging regardless. i'll take what i can get to get rid of them **** skulls 

True. If there's no skulls which seems like may be the case at least we're getting real gameplay and not people volunteering to go in. Even with the questionable casting it feels like the show is going back to normal after two garbage seasons

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