The Challenge : Spies, Lies and Allies (Spoiler Discussion) - Part 1

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shes been rigged against 3 times sooo 

 

anyways KILLA KAM!

Has more nicknames than wins

I must've missed where anybody hyped Kelz up to be good at everything :/

People literally said he was the favorite to win and the best two rookies are gone. 

Kam said on patreon she was gonna throw herself down against amber but couldn't because she had severe hack pains the night of the elimination (she got into a car accident right before the season started filming). 

 

If CT is a number for you why target him first though?  I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out--we don't even know the format yet

If I was a vet though i'd always push for rookies to go in first

KVM you was the same person last season shiting on kam and leroy's game cause they didn't continue with the get the champs out plan and let ct stay in the game instead of getting him out but NOW all of sudden the vets shouldn't target ct after just winning last season.... make it make sense???????

No, I said Kam should have thrown herself into the final female elimination to get CT as a partner.  She wasn't going to lose Hall Brawl to Big T or Amber.  She played a safe scared game.   She also shouldn't have thrown the mission when CT was on her team.  Kam played an absolutely awful game despite having power.  Really not even sure why you're mentioning her at this point.   Leroy played Kam's game not his game.  Leroy never in his career played his game excpet for a few weeks when John left on Exes 2 then he gave up his game the second John walked back in the house.   

The rookies outnumber the vets--no vet should target a vet until the have numbers.   It's simple math--like high/low

I must've missed where anybody hyped Kelz up to be good at everything :/

people were saying since he was one of the biggest guys he was most likely to give CT/Fessy a run for their money

Kam said on patreon she was gonna throw herself down against amber but couldn't because she had severe hack pains the night of the elimination (she got into a car accident right before the season started filming). 

 

 

If CT is a number for you why target him first though?  I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out--we don't even know the format yet

If I was a vet though i'd always push for rookies to go in first

KVM you was the same person last season shiting on kam and leroy's game cause they didn't continue with the get the champs out plan and let ct stay in the game instead of getting him out but NOW all of sudden the vets shouldn't target ct after just winning last season.... make it make sense???????

No, I said Kam should have thrown herself into the final female elimination to get CT as a partner.  She wasn't going to lose Hall Brawl to Big T or Amber.  She played a safe scared game.   She also shouldn't have thrown the mission when CT was on her team.  Kam played an absolutely awful game despite having power.  Really not even sure why you're mentioning her at this point.   Leroy played Kam's game not his game.  Leroy never in his career played his game excpet for a few weeks when John left on Exes 2 then he gave up his game the second John walked back in the house.   

The rookies outnumber the vets--no vet should target a vet until the have numbers.   It's simple math--like high/low

So more excuses from Kam...its getting sad. 

Some of y'all needa understand that we know the bare minimum about these rookies so based off of what we knew some of us obviously guessed that kelz would be good PHYSICALLY.... that still remains true until we get more info about what he lost in that he was one of the best physically. Just cause they had 500 hall brawls last season doesn't mean what he lost was physical

I hate to agree, but she always has excuses... I I like Kam and love her and Leroy together, but I wish she could admit when she's wrong.

 

Kam said on patreon she was gonna throw herself down against amber but couldn't because she had severe hack pains the night of the elimination (she got into a car accident right before the season started filming). 

 

 

If CT is a number for you why target him first though?  I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out--we don't even know the format yet

If I was a vet though i'd always push for rookies to go in first

KVM you was the same person last season shiting on kam and leroy's game cause they didn't continue with the get the champs out plan and let ct stay in the game instead of getting him out but NOW all of sudden the vets shouldn't target ct after just winning last season.... make it make sense???????

No, I said Kam should have thrown herself into the final female elimination to get CT as a partner.  She wasn't going to lose Hall Brawl to Big T or Amber.  She played a safe scared game.   She also shouldn't have thrown the mission when CT was on her team.  Kam played an absolutely awful game despite having power.  Really not even sure why you're mentioning her at this point.   Leroy played Kam's game not his game.  Leroy never in his career played his game excpet for a few weeks when John left on Exes 2 then he gave up his game the second John walked back in the house.   

The rookies outnumber the vets--no vet should target a vet until the have numbers.   It's simple math--like high/low

So more excuses from Kam...its getting sad. 

Do we know what day eliminations are?

Do we know what day eliminations are?

i remember someone saying Tuesdays and Fridays but please don't quote me on that

Some of y'all needa understand that we know the bare minimum about these rookies so based off of what we knew some of us obviously guessed that kelz would be good PHYSICALLY.... that still remains true until we get more information that he was one of the best physically. Just cause they had 500 hall brawls last season doesn't mean what he lost was physical

This is our point though. We don't know enough about the rookies to say much about them especially if they've never been on a competition based show. Almost all of the men look capable of doing well so why was Kelz hyped over Tommy for example?

Do we know what day eliminations are?

it probaly switched to monday and thursday.

 

I must've missed where anybody hyped Kelz up to be good at everything :/

people were saying since he was one of the biggest guys he was most likely to give CT/Fessy a run for their money

And we don't know that he didn't or wouldn't yet. For all we know it was a hallbrawl or pole wrestle against them and he lost 2-1. So the whole overhyped thing isnt a fact until we know what happened 

 

 

I must've missed where anybody hyped Kelz up to be good at everything :/

people were saying since he was one of the biggest guys he was most likely to give CT/Fessy a run for their money

And we don't know that he didn't or wouldn't yet. For all we know it was a hallbrawl or pole wrestle against them and he lost 2-1. So the whole overhyped thing isnt a fact until we know what happened 

im not saying he wasn't a force, the reason he could be out so early is because the vets saw him as a threat

See this whole kelz debate is why the skulls are a dumb concept. They really have people thinking winning eliminations is the most important thing, that if you lose one then you're weak. For all we know he lost a game of blindfold dodgeball or a blind luck Elim like wes vs bananas. 

Or maybe Kelz simply looks the part but isn't a force.  That's happened countless times especially on their early seasons while they learn. 

See this whole kelz debate is why the skulls are a dumb concept. They really have people thinking winning eliminations is the most important thing, that if you lose one then you're weak. For all we know he lost a game of blindfold dodgeball or a blind luck Elim like wes vs bananas. 

Agreed about the skulls and the overhauling of eliminations. This goes back to people complaining that people like Jenn constantly played a great game an avoided eliminations. That's the entire point of the show. 

Yawn

Or maybe Kelz simply looks the part but isn't a force.  That's happened countless times especially on their early seasons while they learn. 

prime example: Jenny

 

Or maybe Kelz simply looks the part but isn't a force.  That's happened countless times especially on their early seasons while they learn. 

prime example: Jenny

Yupp

Yawn

Do we know what day eliminations are?

i could be totally off but i love guessing

(if kelz was eliminated with lauren the same night)

monday - elim lauren, kelz

tuesday - interviews

wednesday - off day (or daily if they dont do off day)

thursday - daily (or elim if they dont do off day)

friday - elim (if there was an off day)

Because of the second quarantine I'm not sure if we know the schedule to be honest

If Kelz and Lauren both got eliminated the same day and he was supposedly partners with Tori, I'm guessing it must be each person in the pairs fights for their own spot in the game and if you win you can pair up with the other winner or steal someone else 

Wendell ended up getting a different show.  Wonder if he got cut or dropped out for the hosting gig.

 

https://twitter.com/wendellholland/status/1392889491258552320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1392889491258552320%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fnbm5l8%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse

I never overhyped Kelz but I did think he and Tori would be a very solid team, so I was surprised to see him out. IMO, that's a big loss losing him and Michaela this early.

But Queen Tori still in makes me happy, and that sexy *** Ed being there also helps.

There's a lot of factors to figure out before knowing the favorites to win though. Format, other pairings, elimination set up.

We don't even know if Kelz made it back into house. Ed could of replaced him in the competition.

random fact but bettina posted her height on her story and she's 5'4 she's quite short

 

 

anyways KILLA KAM!

Has more nicknames than wins

shes been rigged against 3 times sooo 

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