The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies (Cast discussion)

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Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

Sad but true

This cast feels more WOTW than the actual WOTW cast did.

Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

But now if the ratings fall production will be like SEE people do want to see Bananas and Wes

Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

And nor should they. As much as I hate how they cast its working. It's dumbfounding but working

 

Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

But now if the ratings fall production will be like SEE people do want to see Bananas and Wes

Sadly some people do

 

To be fair british BBUK watchers HATED when Americans got cast on the show same with X Factor UK comments were angry when any non UK made it to the live shows. 

We blessed them with New York on BBUK and they complain. We get their garbage disposal rejects so I think we have more of a right to complain ****

Yup! Yup! We are allowed to complain too!

wotw was the worst thing to haopen to this franchise. it set the casting back so much

WOTW had a great rookie class.. lol Georgia, Theo, Bear, Turbo, Ashley, Dee, and Mattie were all objectively good casting choices. They all just turned out to be problematic and/or unable to do the show anymore

I'm going to give this a shot mostly because I'm happy about the Survivor rookies, but it does give me Bloodlines vibes

Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

But they're basically out of people to cast. They only needed 16 vets from the history of this show and this group is the best that they could come up with. Everyone else is either too boring, declining or banned atm. If this wasn't a half rookie season and we got let's say 8 more vets this cast would probably have somehow been even worse. They're relying on these rookies to be the future of the franchise but I'm just not seeing it with this crop. I feel like production's gameplan is to cast a bunch of cheap randoms and hope they all turn out to be like Georgia who was 10x better than she was on her original show

I need Ariane to get off Ambers account every time I see a new post I think the worst 

Michaela, Amanda, and Michele are enough for me to watch this season. As long as we don't get the stupid ******* skull, I think it may just be decent

They really don't want to invest in new people at all huh lol

I mean why do that when all these tired, useless *** vets are around? Let's make the show all about them and watch them compete until their ******* 50! 

 

Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

But they're basically out of people to cast. They only needed 16 vets from the history of this show and this group is the best that they could come up with. Everyone else is either too boring, declining or banned atm. If this wasn't a half rookie season and we got let's say 8 more vets this cast would probably have somehow been even worse. They're relying on these rookies to be the future of the franchise but I'm just not seeing it with this crop

Never thought I'd say this but I think this franchise just needs Fresh Meat 3. We need a good crop of young 20 somethings to come in and potentially be regulars

 

Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

But they're basically out of people to cast. They only needed 16 vets from the history of this show and this group is the best that they could come up with. Everyone else is either too boring, declining or banned atm. If this wasn't a half rookie season and we got let's say 8 more vets this cast would probably have somehow been even worse. They're relying on these rookies to be the future of the franchise but I'm just not seeing it with this crop

Well they have a tendency to run off the vets with star potential which just leaves us with people that will say yes every season. The problem is production and the ****** shit they do behind the scenes that runs everyone off. Pulling from every country isn't helping the problem either.

they're not out of people to cast there's a whole *** CBS merger we have seen the ramifications of since Morgan and Jay ended up on that beach. we literally have Micheala and we know she declined so many times lol 

 

 

Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

But they're basically out of people to cast. They only needed 16 vets from the history of this show and this group is the best that they could come up with. Everyone else is either too boring, declining or banned atm. If this wasn't a half rookie season and we got let's say 8 more vets this cast would probably have somehow been even worse. They're relying on these rookies to be the future of the franchise but I'm just not seeing it with this crop

Well they have a tendency to run off the vets with star potential which just leaves us with people that will say yes every season. The problem is production and the ****** shit they do behind the scenes that runs everyone off. Pulling from every country isn't helping the problem either.

This too. A lot of these people get their following and can get their bag elsewhere without dealing with the BS this show puts them through so they can just move on nowadays.

 

wotw was the worst thing to haopen to this franchise. it set the casting back so much

WOTW had a great rookie class.. lol Georgia, Theo, Bear, Turbo, Ashley, Dee, and Mattie were all objectively good casting choices. They all just turned out to be problematic and/or unable to do the show anymore

I'm going to give this a shot mostly because I'm happy about the Survivor rookies, but it does give me Bloodlines vibes

your'e misunderstanding what i meant. the success of casting those internationals on wotw is why we have this problem today 

 

Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

But they're basically out of people to cast. They only needed 16 vets from the history of this show and this group is the best that they could come up with. Everyone else is either too boring, declining or banned atm. If this wasn't a half rookie season and we got let's say 8 more vets this cast would probably have somehow been even worse. They're relying on these rookies to be the future of the franchise but I'm just not seeing it with this crop. I feel like production's gameplan is to cast a bunch of cheap randoms and hope they all turn out to be like Georgia who was 10x better than she was on her original show

I don't know. I feel like if they need 10 more vets we may have got some people that WE want to see. I feel like this casting is catering very well to their demo/casuals. 

 

 

Until ratings fall nothing is going to change 

But they're basically out of people to cast. They only needed 16 vets from the history of this show and this group is the best that they could come up with. Everyone else is either too boring, declining or banned atm. If this wasn't a half rookie season and we got let's say 8 more vets this cast would probably have somehow been even worse. They're relying on these rookies to be the future of the franchise but I'm just not seeing it with this crop

Well they have a tendency to run off the vets with star potential which just leaves us with people that will say yes every season. The problem is production and the ****** shit they do behind the scenes that runs everyone off. Pulling from every country isn't helping the problem either.

Agreed, they need to keep the cast happy but they're throwing them in bunkers or in freezing weather and think they're desperate enough to agree to do it every season. **** production, makes me proud when people move on like Kailah even though I'd love to have her back

Oh and those themes Exes, Rivals, and Bloodlines aren't making their return anytime soon so we might as well get adjusted to this half rookies half veterans casts. 

Who the **** idea was it to base the themes off movies ? Whats next ? A Freddy vs Jason themed season 

they're not out of people to cast there's a whole *** CBS merger we have seen the ramifications of since Morgan and Jay ended up on that beach. we literally have Micheala and we know she declined so many times lol 

So we got one person who's good enough to be a star on the show? And she's probably not going to be a regular based on her declining in the past to focus on her career. 

There is a great pool that casting just ignores I dont think adding more rookies or a FM3 will all of a sudden solve the problem 

Who the **** idea was it to base the themes off movies ? Whats next ? A Freddy vs Jason themed season 

Superhero theme watch

Kinda wish they just did a Ruins 2 tbh 

 

 

wotw was the worst thing to haopen to this franchise. it set the casting back so much

WOTW had a great rookie class.. lol Georgia, Theo, Bear, Turbo, Ashley, Dee, and Mattie were all objectively good casting choices. They all just turned out to be problematic and/or unable to do the show anymore

I'm going to give this a shot mostly because I'm happy about the Survivor rookies, but it does give me Bloodlines vibes

your'e misunderstanding what i meant. the success of casting those internationals on wotw is why we have this problem today 

oh got it. Yea I have no problem with them casting international people as long as they're good. It seems like they're just giving anyone a chance nowadays lol

 

 

 

i  literally could give zero ***** what language someone speaks **** sounding like Trump Supporters 

The cast members who barley spoke English had zero screen time and barley spoke on the show so their presence was useless. I'm not saying people who speak different languages shouldn't be on but those people barley contribute to the game, they're just there. 

Turbo had a bit of a language barrier but still provided way more competition, drama, and funny confessionals than pretty much all of the other rookies lately combined. English not being his first language wasn't an issue

the only other time there was a language barrier was Nam so not sure what you're referring to lol I don't really count Alan as he was there all of 10 seconds

Wasn't Turbo like the biggest reality star in Turkey? Literally had armies of fans commenting under Challenge IG posts, he's a massive exception, he'd proven to be a great relity tv star by winning Survivor twice. From what we've heard about the internationals this season, they don't have nearly as much to offer

A lot of t Turkish reality stars have that same fan base

 

they're not out of people to cast there's a whole *** CBS merger we have seen the ramifications of since Morgan and Jay ended up on that beach. we literally have Micheala and we know she declined so many times lol 

So we got one person who's good enough to be a star on the show? And she's probably not going to be a regular based on her declining in the past to focus on her career. 

yeah she's giving me Davonne vibes where she's probably a one or two and done once she gets sick of production's shit. She's too good for this show lol

While wotw was a great season it really did ruin this show cause that made them get comfortable casting randoms from all around the world and doing these corny movie themes which is why we have seasons like this that are terrible before they even begin....

I need Ariane to get off Ambers account every time I see a new post I think the worst 

Lol same everytime i see a post i have to recheck that following count just to make sure

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