The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies (Cast discussion)

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WOTW2 is super underrated. It had so much drama and while most of the cast was unlikable, almost all of them got their comeuppance in some way so the payoff was great. People blame it for the decline of the show and it's the reason we got the skulls twist being introduced, but now that they got it, they complain the show is boring now. The fans got what they deserved, they couldn't appreciate what they got until it left :))

it's not a coincidence that the last season with good drama was the one WITHOUT the damn skull twist

it's not a coincidence that the last season with good drama was the one WITHOUT the damn skull twist

oop say it louder. 

I didn't like wotw2 when it ended but over time it's become a really underrated season for me there was so much drama and the daily challenges weren't extra like the last two seasons 

 

I can go tit for tat though:

Laurel vs Kam, Turbo vs Jordan, Laurel and John throwing missions, Nany vs Paulie, Josh vs Paulie, Cara vs Tori, Nany vs Tori, Nany vs Kam, Nany vs Leroy, US team deliberations, Georgia vs Kayleigh, Theo vs Paulie, the team arguments after missions.

im sure I missed some

final reckoning literal first episode was kailag getting pucnhed in the face lmaooo

.....that they didn't even show. It was over in 2 seconds

They need to drop the skull twist, the whole point is the AVOID elimination, not want to go in them 

WOTW2 is super underrated. It had so much drama and while most of the cast was unlikable, almost all of them got their comeuppance in some way so the payoff was great. People blame it for the decline of the show and it's the reason we got the skulls twist being introduced, but now that they got it, they complain the show is boring now. The fans got what they deserved, they couldn't appreciate what they got until it left :))

right? Even though I hated the cult it's not their fault they played the rules to their advantage.

imagine being told the rules and then being punished because you were too good at it? Lol

They need to drop the skull twist, the whole point is the AVOID elimination, not want to go in them 

it's not a coincidence that the last season with good drama was the one WITHOUT the damn skull twist

Plus no gloomy theme with cold weather, useless explosions, tanks, and a simple theme without so many twists in it

I didn't like wotw2 when it ended but over time it's become a really underrated season for me there was so much drama and the daily challenges weren't extra like the last two seasons 

Good eliminations and decent reunions on both WOTWs too. I will never watch that War 2 final again tho. That was some bullshit.

WOTW2 was one of the best recent seasons ever despite one alliance controlling the game. The drama was great and the finals result was hilarious given they controlled the whole game

 

They need to drop the skull twist, the whole point is the AVOID elimination, not want to go in them 

Wotw2 was great but i would still put wotw1 above it and that wouldn't change but both wotw seasons were 100x better than tm and da

WOTW2 was one of the best recent seasons ever despite one alliance controlling the game. The drama was great and the finals result was hilarious given they controlled the whole game

Production was sketchy that season. 

Rivals 3 and Bloodlines have aged great. Those seasons are fun, and MTV-centric. People were pissed back then because we all still had high standards for The Challenge. Those seasons are far above dumpster fires like Total Madness.

Holly and I loved that up all night daily from Rivals 3. It's a classic.

We had been talking to Laterrian recently and were really hoping he would be on the next season, but it doesn't look like that is happening.

Any new people who are rumored to be on?

Any new people who are rumored to be on?

Is KVM still speculated?

 

WOTW2 was one of the best recent seasons ever despite one alliance controlling the game. The drama was great and the finals result was hilarious given they controlled the whole game

Production was sketchy that season. 

mos def

Wotw2 was great but i would still put wotw1 above it and that wouldn't change but both wotw seasons were 100x better than tm and da

 

WOTW2 was one of the best recent seasons ever despite one alliance controlling the game. The drama was great and the finals result was hilarious given they controlled the whole game

Production was sketchy that season. 

i mean you could say that with day 1 of the final, but they got rid of the lead for day 1 on day 2 so it all ended up being fair-ish

I miss Turbo :/

 

Final Reckoning was ALL drama, wym???

hell, even WotW2 was chock full of it

wotw2 outsold don't @ me

Laurel was the only part of that season I enjoyed lol 

 

 

WOTW2 was one of the best recent seasons ever despite one alliance controlling the game. The drama was great and the finals result was hilarious given they controlled the whole game

Production was sketchy that season. 

i mean you could say that with day 1 of the final, but they got rid of the lead for day 1 on day 2 so it all ended up being fair-ish

And the elimination with Laurel and Ninja as well.

Having turbo and nia on will honestly break vevmo. Too bad mtv doesnt understand talent.

Having turbo and nia on will honestly break vevmo. Too bad mtv doesn't understand talent.

 

I could see people going crazy for Nia...but I don't think Turbo would break the site that much lol

Edit: unless I just really underestimate people's love for him  lol I'm biased cause I liked his first season but he lost me on WOTW2

 

 

 

WOTW2 was one of the best recent seasons ever despite one alliance controlling the game. The drama was great and the finals result was hilarious given they controlled the whole game

Production was sketchy that season. 

i mean you could say that with day 1 of the final, but they got rid of the lead for day 1 on day 2 so it all ended up being fair-ish

And the elimination with Laurel and Ninja as well.

oh ya that was def bull.

i actually dont understand why they would give Ninja the one elim she could beat Laurel in either. Laurel was giving us everything, why get rid of her?

So jordan being in the up in the air list does that mean he was given an availability call?

So jordan being in the up in the air list does that mean he was given an availability call?

It seems like everyone who is not 100% banned gets availability calls so im sure he did

people are being so ******* negative. Amanda back, Michaela debuting, and a bunch of muscular new men - including Black men - who have a great chance of taking out the old boring people like CT. plus we still have 3-5 new names to find out.

it really isn't that bad, it's the boot order that will decide it tbh 

people are being so ******* negative. Amanda back, Michaela debuting, and a bunch of muscular new men - including Black men - who have a great chance of taking out the old boring people like CT. plus we still have 3-5 new names to find out.

it really isn't that bad, it's the boot order that will decide it tbh 

That's why I'm avoiding spoilers this season... I might enjoy the show a bit more lol

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