The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies ( Pointless early speculation)

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Casting is so bad recently I'm actually fine with Marie as useless as she is. She'll be gone in the first week or two anyways. 

That ***** isn't coming back and that's a reality y'all are gonna have to deal with <3 

I dont get the hype for Marie lol 

Casting is so bad recently I'm actually fine with Marie as useless as she is. She'll be gone in the first week or two anyways. 

Lmaooooo 

Marie would be welcomed but she's not making it a month with the new crop of girls castings goes after nowadays. That's a easy gold skull for whoever gets her in a elimination 

I dont get the hype for Marie lol 

Same here. I remember Gamer commented last year that he hates quiters. Oh the irony.

Gotta love Marie keeping em' pressed.

Please prayers for no Josh, Bananas, Kyle, Aneesa !!! I wouldn't mind any AYTO people debuts of course along side Hunter, Amanda, Nelson, Kam. That would be a cool team for a battle of the shows format. 

Gotta love Marie keeping em' pressed.

No one is pressed. She's just irrelevant. Doesn't matter if she shows up or not because she'll never win. 

Doesn't matter if Marie will ever win or not, IMO it's fun to have people that aren't there to take everything super seriously and that want to have fun, maybe will get into some drama and will always provide some moments

I liked Marie during Battle of the Seasons 2012. 

We need people who can actually win stuff and break apart the boring majority alliance. Marie is too easy to get a skull from 

We need people who can actually win stuff and break apart the boring majority alliance. Marie is too easy to get a skull from 

I agree. It's annoying when there are a bunch of influencers competing against people like Nam and Jenny. I wish there was a smaller gap between people's competitive ability.

In reality the only Maire elim loss that was really that bad was against Kailah on Vendettas (and she threw that), she never really lost to anyone that was a bad competitor and with the exception of Invasion, every person/team she lost to made the final that season and was one of the top competitors (not counting FR in this since her/cara came back from redemption)

BOTS - Beat Alton/Nany, Loss to Trishelle/Dustin mostly because Robb couldnt hold himself under long enough

Invasion - She definitely tried against Kailah and just didn't have as much stamina....if it was a regular Hall Brawl i think Marie would have one, her first 2 hits to Kailah were pretty hard

Dirty 30 - It was said by multiple ppl, pretty sure Tori herself said it as well in a podcast, that they edited that elim weirdly and that Marie actually got a few patches off of her, the redemption yeah she gave up but i feel like a lot of the girls would have too eating that stuff (we cant all be aneesa and put anything in our mouths)

Vendettas - she threw the elim to Kailah bc she knew Kailah would have a better chance than her making it far, and Kailah made it to the final

Final Reckoning - She definitely tried hard in the elim against Shane/Nelson, and then won the redemption 

Doesn't matter if Marie will ever win or not, IMO it's fun to have people that aren't there to take everything super seriously and that want to have fun, maybe will get into some drama and will always provide some moments

Her memorable moments since Seasons are quitting and yelling at Brad about pizza.  Jemmye brings more if we're not worried about competiting.  

Y'all complain about the randoms that get cast, but honestly that's what this show needs. People who have businesses (Kam), or the the fitness models, influencers are not about to get on a show for and show their *** WITH a million dollars on the line. We need to cast more of these randoms, and lower that grand prize back to 350K. 

 

We need people who can actually win stuff and break apart the boring majority alliance. Marie is too easy to get a skull from 

I agree. It's annoying when there are a bunch of influencers competing against people like Nam and Jenny. I wish there was a smaller gap between people's competitive ability.

I def agree with this too but i think the bigger issue in itself is casting people like Nam and Jenny in the first place that most people (even the regulars from Free Agents-Rivals 2 days and Invasion-FR) wouldnt stand a chance against....not to mention that they are too concerned with how they appear on the show to be messy etc.

In reality the only Maire elim loss that was really that bad was against Kailah on Vendettas (and she threw that), she never really lost to anyone that was a bad competitor and with the exception of Invasion, every person/team she lost to made the final that season and was one of the top competitors (not counting FR in this since her/cara came back from redemption)

BOTS - Beat Alton/Nany, Loss to Trishelle/Dustin mostly because Robb couldnt hold himself under long enough

Invasion - She definitely tried against Kailah and just didn't have as much stamina....if it was a regular Hall Brawl i think Marie would have one, her first 2 hits to Kailah were pretty hard

Dirty 30 - It was said by multiple ppl, pretty sure Tori herself said it as well in a podcast, that they edited that elim weirdly and that Marie actually got a few patches off of her, the redemption yeah she gave up but i feel like a lot of the girls would have too eating that stuff (we cant all be aneesa and put anything in our mouths)

Vendettas - she threw the elim to Kailah bc she knew Kailah would have a better chance than her making it far, and Kailah made it to the final

Final Reckoning - She definitely tried hard in the elim against Shane/Nelson, and then won the redemption 

If Nicole Ramos is willing to eat then Marie should be or shouldn't be on the show.  Mrie also was awful in the final--Big Easy level bad.   Throwing an elimination to Kaliah because she thinks Kaliah is better than her isn't a good argument for wanting her on the show.

 

Doesn't matter if Marie will ever win or not, IMO it's fun to have people that aren't there to take everything super seriously and that want to have fun, maybe will get into some drama and will always provide some moments

Her memorable moments since Seasons are quitting and yelling at Brad about pizza.  Jemmye brings more if we're not worried about competiting.  

What does Jemmye bring? 

Gotta love Marie keeping em' pressed.

Gotta love Josh keeping u pressed.

 

 

Doesn't matter if Marie will ever win or not, IMO it's fun to have people that aren't there to take everything super seriously and that want to have fun, maybe will get into some drama and will always provide some moments

Her memorable moments since Seasons are quitting and yelling at Brad about pizza.  Jemmye brings more if we're not worried about competiting.  

What does Jemmye bring? 

her trailer park chic vibes

The big paragraph explaining Marie's losses is completely unnecessary and it isn't changing anybody's mind. Marie sucks and is lucky she went up the girls she went against to produce those L's. Marie does too much for attention and her only storyline is inserting herself in someone else's drama to become relevant. 

In reality the only Maire elim loss that was really that bad was against Kailah on Vendettas (and she threw that), she never really lost to anyone that was a bad competitor and with the exception of Invasion, every person/team she lost to made the final that season and was one of the top competitors (not counting FR in this since her/cara came back from redemption)

BOTS - Beat Alton/Nany, Loss to Trishelle/Dustin mostly because Robb couldnt hold himself under long enough

Invasion - She definitely tried against Kailah and just didn't have as much stamina....if it was a regular Hall Brawl i think Marie would have one, her first 2 hits to Kailah were pretty hard

Dirty 30 - It was said by multiple ppl, pretty sure Tori herself said it as well in a podcast, that they edited that elim weirdly and that Marie actually got a few patches off of her, the redemption yeah she gave up but i feel like a lot of the girls would have too eating that stuff (we cant all be aneesa and put anything in our mouths)

Vendettas - she threw the elim to Kailah bc she knew Kailah would have a better chance than her making it far, and Kailah made it to the final

Final Reckoning - She definitely tried hard in the elim against Shane/Nelson, and then won the redemption 



For some reason I have never buy that story just like Emilee saying she threw the elimination for Jonna on Free Agents lol

 

In reality the only Maire elim loss that was really that bad was against Kailah on Vendettas (and she threw that), she never really lost to anyone that was a bad competitor and with the exception of Invasion, every person/team she lost to made the final that season and was one of the top competitors (not counting FR in this since her/cara came back from redemption)

BOTS - Beat Alton/Nany, Loss to Trishelle/Dustin mostly because Robb couldnt hold himself under long enough

Invasion - She definitely tried against Kailah and just didn't have as much stamina....if it was a regular Hall Brawl i think Marie would have one, her first 2 hits to Kailah were pretty hard

Dirty 30 - It was said by multiple ppl, pretty sure Tori herself said it as well in a podcast, that they edited that elim weirdly and that Marie actually got a few patches off of her, the redemption yeah she gave up but i feel like a lot of the girls would have too eating that stuff (we cant all be aneesa and put anything in our mouths)

Vendettas - she threw the elim to Kailah bc she knew Kailah would have a better chance than her making it far, and Kailah made it to the final

Final Reckoning - She definitely tried hard in the elim against Shane/Nelson, and then won the redemption 

If Nicole Ramos is willing to eat then Marie should be or shouldn't be on the show.  Mrie also was awful in the final--Big Easy level bad.   Throwing an elimination to Kaliah because she thinks Kaliah is better than her isn't a good argument for wanting her on the show.

she also ran that final with a near broken ankle lol, thats a terrible comparison comparing her to Easy

Doesn't matter if Marie will ever win or not, IMO it's fun to have people that aren't there to take everything super seriously and that want to have fun, maybe will get into some drama and will always provide some moments

She wasn't that bad. My main issue with her is her toxic fanbase and the fact that she enables them.

 

In reality the only Maire elim loss that was really that bad was against Kailah on Vendettas (and she threw that), she never really lost to anyone that was a bad competitor and with the exception of Invasion, every person/team she lost to made the final that season and was one of the top competitors (not counting FR in this since her/cara came back from redemption)

BOTS - Beat Alton/Nany, Loss to Trishelle/Dustin mostly because Robb couldnt hold himself under long enough

Invasion - She definitely tried against Kailah and just didn't have as much stamina....if it was a regular Hall Brawl i think Marie would have one, her first 2 hits to Kailah were pretty hard

Dirty 30 - It was said by multiple ppl, pretty sure Tori herself said it as well in a podcast, that they edited that elim weirdly and that Marie actually got a few patches off of her, the redemption yeah she gave up but i feel like a lot of the girls would have too eating that stuff (we cant all be aneesa and put anything in our mouths)

Vendettas - she threw the elim to Kailah bc she knew Kailah would have a better chance than her making it far, and Kailah made it to the final

Final Reckoning - She definitely tried hard in the elim against Shane/Nelson, and then won the redemption 

For some reason I have never buy that story just like Emilee saying she threw the elimination for Jonna on Free Agents lol

only reason i believe it more than some theories similar to it is mostly because marie never took the shows too seriously and always had an "IDGAF" attitude

 

 

In reality the only Maire elim loss that was really that bad was against Kailah on Vendettas (and she threw that), she never really lost to anyone that was a bad competitor and with the exception of Invasion, every person/team she lost to made the final that season and was one of the top competitors (not counting FR in this since her/cara came back from redemption)

BOTS - Beat Alton/Nany, Loss to Trishelle/Dustin mostly because Robb couldnt hold himself under long enough

Invasion - She definitely tried against Kailah and just didn't have as much stamina....if it was a regular Hall Brawl i think Marie would have one, her first 2 hits to Kailah were pretty hard

Dirty 30 - It was said by multiple ppl, pretty sure Tori herself said it as well in a podcast, that they edited that elim weirdly and that Marie actually got a few patches off of her, the redemption yeah she gave up but i feel like a lot of the girls would have too eating that stuff (we cant all be aneesa and put anything in our mouths)

Vendettas - she threw the elim to Kailah bc she knew Kailah would have a better chance than her making it far, and Kailah made it to the final

Final Reckoning - She definitely tried hard in the elim against Shane/Nelson, and then won the redemption 

If Nicole Ramos is willing to eat then Marie should be or shouldn't be on the show.  Mrie also was awful in the final--Big Easy level bad.   Throwing an elimination to Kaliah because she thinks Kaliah is better than her isn't a good argument for wanting her on the show.

she also ran that final with a near broken ankle lol, thats a terrible comparison comparing her to Easy

She wasn't winning it regardless and that final is one of the easiest finals in challenge history. She's not doing anything, sorry to break it to you. 

 

 

 

In reality the only Maire elim loss that was really that bad was against Kailah on Vendettas (and she threw that), she never really lost to anyone that was a bad competitor and with the exception of Invasion, every person/team she lost to made the final that season and was one of the top competitors (not counting FR in this since her/cara came back from redemption)

BOTS - Beat Alton/Nany, Loss to Trishelle/Dustin mostly because Robb couldnt hold himself under long enough

Invasion - She definitely tried against Kailah and just didn't have as much stamina....if it was a regular Hall Brawl i think Marie would have one, her first 2 hits to Kailah were pretty hard

Dirty 30 - It was said by multiple ppl, pretty sure Tori herself said it as well in a podcast, that they edited that elim weirdly and that Marie actually got a few patches off of her, the redemption yeah she gave up but i feel like a lot of the girls would have too eating that stuff (we cant all be aneesa and put anything in our mouths)

Vendettas - she threw the elim to Kailah bc she knew Kailah would have a better chance than her making it far, and Kailah made it to the final

Final Reckoning - She definitely tried hard in the elim against Shane/Nelson, and then won the redemption 

If Nicole Ramos is willing to eat then Marie should be or shouldn't be on the show.  Mrie also was awful in the final--Big Easy level bad.   Throwing an elimination to Kaliah because she thinks Kaliah is better than her isn't a good argument for wanting her on the show.

she also ran that final with a near broken ankle lol, thats a terrible comparison comparing her to Easy

She wasn't winning it regardless and that final is one of the easiest finals in challenge history. She's not doing anything, sorry to break it to you. 

lol never said she was going to win it, nor did i ever expect her to just was pointing something out, sorry to break it to you 

 

Doesn't matter if Marie will ever win or not, IMO it's fun to have people that aren't there to take everything super seriously and that want to have fun, maybe will get into some drama and will always provide some moments

She wasn't that bad. My main issue with her is her toxic fanbase and the fact that she enables them.

Are you really acting like the majority of these people fan base aren't as toxic? Lol 

To be honest I haven't seen any of their stans group not having toxicity

 

Doesn't matter if Marie will ever win or not, IMO it's fun to have people that aren't there to take everything super seriously and that want to have fun, maybe will get into some drama and will always provide some moments

Her memorable moments since Seasons are quitting and yelling at Brad about pizza.  Jemmye brings more if we're not worried about competiting.  

What does Jemmye bring? 

Marie and Jemmye are the same archetype.

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