The Challenge: Spies, Lies and Allies ( Pointless early speculation)

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ashley just has no friends, and she's annoying. it's not a good combination, i can't see her making it far ever again unless it's teams, or she has a good partner with good allies

She played a smart political game on WOTW2 but, I agree, she needs that format or an awesome partner with paired eliminations

Ashley needs a BREAK. If she keeps doing these seasons back to back then she's not making another final anytime soon. 

Tori sliding into dms of potential rookies. How do they find out about this? From here or production?

ashley needs to start pre-gaming. i dont know why she hasn't caught on yet, i guess it's her pride cause she use to drag wes & bananas for doing that around final reckoning and wotw1

Tori sliding into dms of potential rookies. How do they find out about this? From here or production?

Tori sliding into dms of potential rookies. How do they find out about this? From here or production?

tori doing all that work just for her to be the 3rd or 4th person to go home

I hate pregaming but it's been going on forever and it's not something you can stop  

Regardless if Ashley pregames or not she's still probably not making it pass a month of filming 

 

Lets stop acting like The Challenge has ever has real political or strategic gameplay. Red/Gold Skulls didnt change anything. Its always a group of corny white dudes running everything and the rest of the house kissing their ***. The Challenge is fundamentally flawed.

You're joking right? Why are you trying to make this about race? Don't be a race-baiting little kid, this show is about poltiics and poltiics can play in anyone's favor. It just so happens that the best political minds might be a race that you are judgemental about. I am waiting for these newbies to try and shake things up (smartly). And if they don't, then guess what? I am still enjoying the show because it's hilarious how they get outsmarted by the same people over and over again!

 

yeah because we all know race is not an issue within politics right?

smh

Wasn't in the early days of the show

some of them early seasons have like 2.5 Black folk on em max.

I hate pregaming but it's been going on forever and it's not something you can stop  

Regardless if Ashley pregames or not she's still probably not making it pass a month of filming 

wouldn't hurt trying cause with hearing kam might not be on she's about to be in trouble

She should take a page out of Wes' book and sit the season out so that she atleast goes into 38 with a lower target otherwise Hunter gonna get that ***.

I think Ashley is scared if she turns them down, she'll stop getting calls. I know she's talked about in the past how after she quit Dirty 30, she didn't get called for Vendettas and almost didn't get called for Final Reckoning (not only was she a mercenary, she was the back-up mercenary IIRC).

 

 

 

I think Jenny and Liv aren't even being considered because a UK version is in the works.

Huh? No at all lol

I want to know your thoughts on mtv losing jenny's number so soon

She should had never been cast same with Kaycee and the other old boring rookies

ugh to think we could've possibly gotten her twin sister too. that would've been so tragic 

I think Ashley is scared if she turns them down, she'll stop getting calls. I know she's talked about in the past how after she quit Dirty 30, she didn't get called for Vendettas and almost didn't get called for Final Reckoning (not only was she a mercenary, she was the back-up mercenary IIRC).

I feel like a lot of these people feel this way. but nowadays, you risk pretty much anyone coming in and taking your spot versus back in the day. it's also harder to make a name for yourself on the show as a newbie to even be memorable enough to come back after a 1-2 season break.  

honestly if you premiered after dirty 30, your best bet is to get the challenge while it's here. 

Time for Ri-demption

If Ashley goes home early for the 3rd time next season her spot is definitely in danger.

i doubt it tbh, she's the only active and entertaining female champion left. i think she'll be around for a long time, if she does leave it'll probably be on her own terms.

she's going to be the female bananas, she's already mimicking his streak of going home early 

I think Ashley will be around a little longer but I think she's going to have to take a break soon or else MTV will put her on a break themselves same with Josh and Kyle. 

There's no valid reason why someone should be on six seasons in a row......that's just absolutely too much 

If Ashley goes home early for the 3rd time next season her spot is definitely in danger.

i agree. I think they'd give her a break before completely letting her go tho. she needs to do something quick next season ****. win an elimination, provide a messy *** moment, get some power, get a storyline, etc. 

Ugh Ashley had an iconic debut season. like that season alone definitely secured her spot for a while. I think she's embarrassed of a lot of those moments tho so doubt we'll ever get full Smashley back 

 

If Ashley goes home early for the 3rd time next season her spot is definitely in danger.

i agree. I think they'd give her a break before completely letting her go tho. she needs to do something quick next season ****. win an elimination, provide a messy *** moment, get some power, get a storyline, etc. 

Yea I don't see them losing her number but they will give her a season or two off if she flops again which would be great for her game and mental state lol

Since when this website get so many ads

with the amount of rookies they have given us the past few seasons without developing them at all, i feel like it would be the perfect time to revamp The Gauntlet as a theme 

 

^^^^

They're not sitting Ashley out anytime soon. Lol

I believe she's probably transcended into that category of Bananas, Wes, Laurel, etc. that if she wants to be on a Challenge, they will have her on. Her Final Reckoning moment solified her as a regular that will be on as long as she wants to be on.

I'm not arguing that she shouldn't take a break, I think she def should. I'm just saying I don't think she's going anywhere in terms of not being casted. Maybe they will give her a break like they did Cory, Kailah, Nelson, etc, but I doubt it with how much rookies flopped, Kam likely declining, Kailah not really caring about the show, Cara's future with the show in question, etc.

with the amount of rookies they have given us the past few seasons without developing them at all, i feel like it would be the perfect time to revamp The Gauntlet as a theme 

 

Those rookies aren't worth developing the last good class of rookies was the one on War of the worlds 1 and all of them are so problematic 

the bannings & the refusal to bring back cara & paula def hit ashley the most though.

like that really took out her social game as a whole, just when she was getting in good with cara and was apart of that alliance. 

Im just happy jenny is no longer wanted. She woulda steamrolled and won the next 5 challenges if they kept bringing her back.

Vevmo needs a character limit.

 

 

Lets stop acting like The Challenge has ever has real political or strategic gameplay. Red/Gold Skulls didnt change anything. Its always a group of corny white dudes running everything and the rest of the house kissing their ***. The Challenge is fundamentally flawed.

You're joking right? Why are you trying to make this about race? Don't be a race-baiting little kid, this show is about poltiics and poltiics can play in anyone's favor. It just so happens that the best political minds might be a race that you are judgemental about. I am waiting for these newbies to try and shake things up (smartly). And if they don't, then guess what? I am still enjoying the show because it's hilarious how they get outsmarted by the same people over and over again!

 

yeah because we all know race is not an issue within politics right?

smh

Wasn't in the early days of the show

some of them early seasons have like 2.5 Black folk on em max.

What seasons did?  The Gauntlet and then Inferno had 4 black people in the finals.

**** neither battle of the sexes saw a white woman in the final. Yes all white males in then final but still there was always good diversity early on.  It was the Fresh Meat-last season that struggled at times largely due to poor casting choices 

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