Fessy is really down bad right now i just saw his explanation to the haleigh stuff on Twitter and he said he wanted to move in with her RIGHT after big brother, her family didn't even like him and didn't want her to move in with him, he was mad that she wanted to be independent and do her own thing, and claims he told people that him and haleigh were trying but hooked up with gabby and on the first night cory said "fessy's single" him and tori really are perfect for each other two lying *** cheaters
The UK challenge would blow the US version out the water
Please happen
The UK challenge would flop like anything on that dead channel in that country. MTV UK has been dying for years their last hits were the early seasons of ex on the beach and the first few seasons of Geordie Show before it became to repetitive.
MTVLA is the one that need to make their own version of this show. They still pull good ratings, have a good talent pool for it and the social media engagement they get for their channel is way higher.
I think MTVLA would do great at least the first 2-3 seasons, then it's gonna suck big time like with some similar formats other networks have done.
Something happens they can't keep a loyal fan base.
Fessy is really down bad right now i just saw his explanation to the haleigh stuff on Twitter and he said he wanted to move in with her RIGHT after big brother, her family didn't even like him and didn't want her to move in with him, he was mad that she wanted to be independent and do her own thing, and claims he told people that him and haleigh were trying but hooked up with gabby and on the first night cory said "fessy's single" him and tori really are perfect for each other two lying *** cheaters
I got the total opposite. After her graduation, they were going to move in together but she backed out. You don't go looking for places in LA and Miami if you didn't say you were going to live together. But really what I got is her family hated him and tried to keep them apart (successfully). The implication of her family not aproving of Fessy being Muslim goes back to even when they were in the house on BB20 based on her family's actions on SM.
Ultimatley, I don't understand why people care. It was a toxic on/off long distance relationship for 2 years with whats looks to be strife with racism. I don't think there' a single person involved that looks good in this and it's not a Challenge storyline either.
i really like the aftershows this year...better than in studio
I like the idea but I don't like the execution. I like the host but I think they have too many people on. And it is also very heavily edited and the convos are very choppy. I think it would be better with 2 guests and more of a free flowing convo that allows the host to ask follow ups.
Fessy is really down bad right now i just saw his explanation to the haleigh stuff on Twitter and he said he wanted to move in with her RIGHT after big brother, her family didn't even like him and didn't want her to move in with him, he was mad that she wanted to be independent and do her own thing, and claims he told people that him and haleigh were trying but hooked up with gabby and on the first night cory said "fessy's single" him and tori really are perfect for each other two lying *** cheaters
I got the total opposite. After her graduation, they were going to move in together but she backed out. You don't go looking for places in LA and Miami if you didn't say you were going to live together. But really what I got is her family hated him and tried to keep them apart (successfully). The implication of her family not aproving of Fessy being Muslim goes back to even when they were in the house on BB20 based on her family's actions on SM.
Ultimatley, I don't understand why people care. It was a toxic on/off long distance relationship for 2 years with whats looks to be strife with racism. I don't think there' a single person involved that looks good in this and it's not a Challenge storyline either.
- I personally don't find the obsession with them as a duo even when they were together. Both are extremely boring and blah.
- But they are both "public figures" that made had a public break up and made "statements". It's to an extend a challenge storyline when she is making a post accusing him on leading her on during filming by using his 10 mins calls during filming while flirting with Tori, Kissing Ashley and hooking up with Gabby. So people are going to have their opinions, he for sure loves getting engagement and his IG followers. This come with the territory he doesn't get special treatment it's not the first cast member relationship and for sure is not going to be the last that people are going to be discussing.
- I personally don't find the obsession with them as a duo even when they were together. Both are extremely boring and blah.
- But they are both "public figures" that made had a public break up and made "statements". It's to an extend a challenge storyline when she is making a post accusing him on leading her on during filming by using his 10 mins calls during filming while flirting with Tori, Kissing Ashley and hooking up with Gabby. So people are going to have their opinions, he for sure loves getting engagement and his IG followers. This come with the territory he doesn't get special treatment it's not the first cast member relationship and for sure is not going to be the last that people are going to be discussing.
You probably know better than anyone, the demographics on the there fans is a lot of old ladies. It would be fascinating if it wasn't so sad. I don't understand the obsession either.
Here's where I will disagree with you though. This is not a Challenge story lline. This is just all brought up by the twitter spoiler pages and obsessive trolls that can't let go. Only Haleigh made a statement and that was way back in the summer. Fessy hasn't mentioned her at all, till today. As far as I know, Haleigh hasn't said much besides the break up note, until a few days ago. The Challenge producers cleary don't care because they have gone out of there way to mention he's single. They haven't played any phone call (atleast yet).
This is all instigated by a very toxic challenge community.
I find Total Madness more entertaining than this season so far.. At least that season had more drama and fights within the first 4 episodes
total madness was the worst season ever. after the dee stuff happened the show became unwatchable trying to edit around her. even before that watching her and rogan and bananas hog up 90% of airtime was the worst.
I find Total Madness more entertaining than this season so far.. At least that season had more drama and fights within the first 4 episodes
total madness was the worst season ever. after the dee stuff happened the show became unwatchable trying to edit around her. even before that watching her and rogan and bananas hog up 90% of airtime was the worst.
Total Madness was trash for all the reasons listed and because everyone hated the bunker. I'd rather watch The Ruins and Rivals 3 over Total Madness
- I personally don't find the obsession with them as a duo even when they were together. Both are extremely boring and blah.
- But they are both "public figures" that made had a public break up and made "statements". It's to an extend a challenge storyline when she is making a post accusing him on leading her on during filming by using his 10 mins calls during filming while flirting with Tori, Kissing Ashley and hooking up with Gabby. So people are going to have their opinions, he for sure loves getting engagement and his IG followers. This come with the territory he doesn't get special treatment it's not the first cast member relationship and for sure is not going to be the last that people are going to be discussing.
You probably know better than anyone, the demographics on the there fans is a lot of old ladies. It would be fascinating if it wasn't so sad. I don't understand the obsession either.
Here's where I will disagree with you though. This is not a Challenge story lline. This is just all brought up by the twitter spoiler pages and obsessive trolls that can't let go. Only Haleigh made a statement and that was way back in the summer. Fessy hasn't mentioned her at all, till today. As far as I know, Haleigh hasn't said much besides the break up note, until a few days ago. The Challenge producers cleary don't care because they have gone out of there way to mention he's single. They haven't played any phone call (atleast yet).
This is all instigated by a very toxic challenge community.
Haleigh and Fessy met on a reality show and continue sharing aspects of their relationships through social media. Creating a cult fan base that were obsessive over them that now have a "war" between them by choosing either side. Their fans are intense I have been dealing with them since he made his debut but they were the ones that created that monster by opening aspects of their relationship after the show.
At the end of the day her name will always be attached to him and people will continue bringing it up. I still even see people bringing up Johanna under Wes Ig comments. I guess the cons of getting in a realationship on a reality show.
- I personally don't find the obsession with them as a duo even when they were together. Both are extremely boring and blah.
- But they are both "public figures" that made had a public break up and made "statements". It's to an extend a challenge storyline when she is making a post accusing him on leading her on during filming by using his 10 mins calls during filming while flirting with Tori, Kissing Ashley and hooking up with Gabby. So people are going to have their opinions, he for sure loves getting engagement and his IG followers. This come with the territory he doesn't get special treatment it's not the first cast member relationship and for sure is not going to be the last that people are going to be discussing.
You probably know better than anyone, the demographics on the there fans is a lot of old ladies. It would be fascinating if it wasn't so sad. I don't understand the obsession either.
Here's where I will disagree with you though. This is not a Challenge story lline. This is just all brought up by the twitter spoiler pages and obsessive trolls that can't let go. Only Haleigh made a statement and that was way back in the summer. Fessy hasn't mentioned her at all, till today. As far as I know, Haleigh hasn't said much besides the break up note, until a few days ago. The Challenge producers cleary don't care because they have gone out of there way to mention he's single. They haven't played any phone call (atleast yet).
This is all instigated by a very toxic challenge community.
Haleigh and Fessy met on a reality show and continue sharing aspects of their relationships through social media. Creating a cult fan base that were obsessive over them that now have a "war" between them by choosing either side. Their fans are intense I have been dealing with them since he made his debut but they were the ones that created that monster by opening aspects of their relationship after the show.
At the end of the day her name will always be attached to him and people will continue bringing it up. I still even see people bringing up Johanna under Wes Ig comments. I guess the cons of getting in a realationship on a reality show.
Johanna still sucks for threatening to sell the house, but like why even bring up an ex from over 10 years ago like *** not to mention is the only person from RW Austin that Wes doesnt speak to
- I personally don't find the obsession with them as a duo even when they were together. Both are extremely boring and blah.
- But they are both "public figures" that made had a public break up and made "statements". It's to an extend a challenge storyline when she is making a post accusing him on leading her on during filming by using his 10 mins calls during filming while flirting with Tori, Kissing Ashley and hooking up with Gabby. So people are going to have their opinions, he for sure loves getting engagement and his IG followers. This come with the territory he doesn't get special treatment it's not the first cast member relationship and for sure is not going to be the last that people are going to be discussing.
You probably know better than anyone, the demographics on the there fans is a lot of old ladies. It would be fascinating if it wasn't so sad. I don't understand the obsession either.
Here's where I will disagree with you though. This is not a Challenge story lline. This is just all brought up by the twitter spoiler pages and obsessive trolls that can't let go. Only Haleigh made a statement and that was way back in the summer. Fessy hasn't mentioned her at all, till today. As far as I know, Haleigh hasn't said much besides the break up note, until a few days ago. The Challenge producers cleary don't care because they have gone out of there way to mention he's single. They haven't played any phone call (atleast yet).
This is all instigated by a very toxic challenge community.
Haleigh and Fessy met on a reality show and continue sharing aspects of their relationships through social media. Creating a cult fan base that were obsessive over them that now have a "war" between them by choosing either side. Their fans are intense I have been dealing with them since he made his debut but they were the ones that created that monster by opening aspects of their relationship after the show.
At the end of the day her name will always be attached to him and people will continue bringing it up. I still even see people bringing up Johanna under Wes Ig comments. I guess the cons of getting in a realationship on a reality show.
Johanna still sucks for threatening to sell the house, but like why even bring up an ex from over 10 years ago like *** not to mention is the only person from RW Austin that Wes doesnt speak to
Honestly her doing that was the only thing she ever did that I remember or respect
Haleigh and Fessy met on a reality show and continue sharing aspects of their relationships through social media. Creating a cult fan base that were obsessive over them that now have a "war" between them by choosing either side. Their fans are intense I have been dealing with them since he made his debut but they were the ones that created that monster by opening aspects of their relationship after the show.
At the end of the day her name will always be attached to him and people will continue bringing it up. I still even see people bringing up Johanna under Wes Ig comments. I guess the cons of getting in a realationship on a reality show.
Agree. But honestly Jay challenge etc are also making it more toxic validating the crazy stalker fans and they are all so pro Haleigh it's weird.Trolls literally now @ Jay with BS. I have to say the us weekly article for me is the clearest from this mess. Seems to me Fessy wanted public acknowledgement from her to her family she wouldn't give it but expected him to acknowledge her on a tv show.Buy as many pillows as you want but letting your BF go on a show notorious for cheating in an ambiguous relationship was just asking for trouble. She handed him a free pass boys will be boys
Does anyone buy that bullshit Fessy was spilling about him and Tori being just friends ?
I don't **** my friends while on vacation together. My sister Haleigh dodged a bullet. She too good to be ******* with these reality stars bag you a baseball player girl.
Does anyone buy that bullshit Fessy was spilling about him and Tori being just friends ?
I don't **** my friends while on vacation together. My sister Haleigh dodged a bullet. She too good to be ******* with these reality stars bag you a baseball player girl.
Does anyone buy that bullshit Fessy was spilling about him and Tori being just friends ?
I don't **** my friends while on vacation together. My sister Haleigh dodged a bullet. She too good to be ******* with these reality stars bag you a baseball player girl.
No I think they definitely had a fling but have now decided to be friends . They definitely don't seem to be pursuing a relationship at this point but could happen later.
Does anyone buy that bullshit Fessy was spilling about him and Tori being just friends ?
I don't **** my friends while on vacation together. My sister Haleigh dodged a bullet. She too good to be ******* with these reality stars bag you a baseball player girl.
Who cares if they f***** or if they are just friends or not. If they didn't cross that line (and if all they did was flirt during the season that's not crossing the line IMO) then who cares. They both single now and apparently were single when they went on that trip so it's whatever. And I don't even like Fessy but if her family didn't like him and if one of those reasons being he's Muslim then he dodged bullet bullet as well.
Does anyone buy that bullshit Fessy was spilling about him and Tori being just friends ?
I don't **** my friends while on vacation together. My sister Haleigh dodged a bullet. She too good to be ******* with these reality stars bag you a baseball player girl.
Who cares if they f***** or if they are just friends or not. If they didn't cross that line (and if all they did was flirt during the season that's not crossing the line IMO) then who cares. They both single now and apparently were single when they went on that trip so it's whatever. And I don't even like Fessy but if her family didn't like him and if one of those reasons being he's Muslim then he dodged bullet bullet as well.
He wasn't single when he was smacking lips with that UK blonde bimbo.That's where the issues are coming from. Having *** with someone after a breakup is not a problem.
We'll never know what her family supposedly said or did. There's always two sides to a story. The key word in your statement is IF and that's a big if. I don't condemn racism on any level but I'm not going to blindly believe everything I read either without some form of receipts.
Does anyone buy that bullshit Fessy was spilling about him and Tori being just friends ?
I don't **** my friends while on vacation together. My sister Haleigh dodged a bullet. She too good to be ******* with these reality stars bag you a baseball player girl.
Who cares if they f***** or if they are just friends or not. If they didn't cross that line (and if all they did was flirt during the season that's not crossing the line IMO) then who cares. They both single now and apparently were single when they went on that trip so it's whatever. And I don't even like Fessy but if her family didn't like him and if one of those reasons being he's Muslim then he dodged bullet bullet as well.
He wasn't single when he was smacking lips with that UK blonde bimbo.That's where the issues are coming from. Having *** with someone after a breakup is not a problem.
We'll never know what her family supposedly said or did. There's always two sides to a story. The key word in your statement is IF and that's a big if. I don't condemn racism on any level but I'm not going to blindly believe everything I read either without some form of receipts.
Again I say she ****** up don't let your BF go on a show with an ambiguous relationship because you are scared to acknowledge him because of your family . He ****** up but she gave him a free pass. Now you publicly post that you we're together after the fact
Fessy is really down bad right now i just saw his explanation to the haleigh stuff on Twitter and he said he wanted to move in with her RIGHT after big brother, her family didn't even like him and didn't want her to move in with him, he was mad that she wanted to be independent and do her own thing, and claims he told people that him and haleigh were trying but hooked up with gabby and on the first night cory said "fessy's single" him and tori really are perfect for each other two lying *** cheaters
Yep. Working on the relationship. but let me go sleep with someone else. All the while calling Haleigh every week like nothing is wrong.
I think MTVLA would do great at least the first 2-3 seasons, then it's gonna suck big time like with some similar formats other networks have done.
Something happens they can't keep a loyal fan base.
This season is so boring. Does Tori throw her elimination to Aneesa? Seems like something she would do
I got the total opposite. After her graduation, they were going to move in together but she backed out. You don't go looking for places in LA and Miami if you didn't say you were going to live together. But really what I got is her family hated him and tried to keep them apart (successfully). The implication of her family not aproving of Fessy being Muslim goes back to even when they were in the house on BB20 based on her family's actions on SM.
Ultimatley, I don't understand why people care. It was a toxic on/off long distance relationship for 2 years with whats looks to be strife with racism. I don't think there' a single person involved that looks good in this and it's not a Challenge storyline either.
I like the idea but I don't like the execution. I like the host but I think they have too many people on. And it is also very heavily edited and the convos are very choppy. I think it would be better with 2 guests and more of a free flowing convo that allows the host to ask follow ups.
- I personally don't find the obsession with them as a duo even when they were together. Both are extremely boring and blah.
- But they are both "public figures" that made had a public break up and made "statements". It's to an extend a challenge storyline when she is making a post accusing him on leading her on during filming by using his 10 mins calls during filming while flirting with Tori, Kissing Ashley and hooking up with Gabby. So people are going to have their opinions, he for sure loves getting engagement and his IG followers. This come with the territory he doesn't get special treatment it's not the first cast member relationship and for sure is not going to be the last that people are going to be discussing.
Tori would never, she cares way too much about looking like this amazing competitor.
If I never see or hear from Josh again, it will be too soon. Such a melodramatic, lying, try hard tool.
No lol She was enjoying her time there way to much to throw something
Atp haleigh shouldn't even be brought up in this thread anymore if we're gonna talk lets just mention fessy and his hookups
Yeah tori would never throw something she's not that type of competitior to throw an elimination
You probably know better than anyone, the demographics on the there fans is a lot of old ladies. It would be fascinating if it wasn't so sad. I don't understand the obsession either.
Here's where I will disagree with you though. This is not a Challenge story lline. This is just all brought up by the twitter spoiler pages and obsessive trolls that can't let go. Only Haleigh made a statement and that was way back in the summer. Fessy hasn't mentioned her at all, till today. As far as I know, Haleigh hasn't said much besides the break up note, until a few days ago. The Challenge producers cleary don't care because they have gone out of there way to mention he's single. They haven't played any phone call (atleast yet).
This is all instigated by a very toxic challenge community.
I find Total Madness more entertaining than this season so far.. At least that season had more drama and fights within the first 4 episodes
total madness was the worst season ever. after the dee stuff happened the show became unwatchable trying to edit around her. even before that watching her and rogan and bananas hog up 90% of airtime was the worst.
Total Madness was trash for all the reasons listed and because everyone hated the bunker. I'd rather watch The Ruins and Rivals 3 over Total Madness
Haleigh and Fessy met on a reality show and continue sharing aspects of their relationships through social media. Creating a
cultfan base that were obsessive over them that now have a "war" between them by choosing either side. Their fans are intense I have been dealing with them since he made his debut but they were the ones that created that monster by opening aspects of their relationship after the show.At the end of the day her name will always be attached to him and people will continue bringing it up. I still even see people bringing up Johanna under Wes Ig comments. I guess the cons of getting in a realationship on a reality show.
Johanna still sucks for threatening to sell the house, but like why even bring up an ex from over 10 years ago like *** not to mention is the only person from RW Austin that Wes doesnt speak to
Honestly her doing that was the only thing she ever did that I remember or respect
Haleigh and Fessy met on a reality show and continue sharing aspects of their relationships through social media. Creating a
cultfan base that were obsessive over them that now have a "war" between them by choosing either side. Their fans are intense I have been dealing with them since he made his debut but they were the ones that created that monster by opening aspects of their relationship after the show.At the end of the day her name will always be attached to him and people will continue bringing it up. I still even see people bringing up Johanna under Wes Ig comments. I guess the cons of getting in a realationship on a reality show.
Agree. But honestly Jay challenge etc are also making it more toxic validating the crazy stalker fans and they are all so pro Haleigh it's weird.Trolls literally now @ Jay with BS. I have to say the us weekly article for me is the clearest from this mess. Seems to me Fessy wanted public acknowledgement from her to her family she wouldn't give it but expected him to acknowledge her on a tv show.Buy as many pillows as you want but letting your BF go on a show notorious for cheating in an ambiguous relationship was just asking for trouble. She handed him a free pass boys will be boys
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Talking about that on every single pic of Kailah there is always someone asking about Bear and Mikey.
Does anyone buy that bullshit Fessy was spilling about him and Tori being just friends ?
I don't **** my friends while on vacation together. My sister Haleigh dodged a bullet. She too good to be ******* with these reality stars bag you a baseball player girl.
Tori was wearing Fessy necklace the other day
No I think they definitely had a fling but have now decided to be friends . They definitely don't seem to be pursuing a relationship at this point but could happen later.
Who cares if they f***** or if they are just friends or not. If they didn't cross that line (and if all they did was flirt during the season that's not crossing the line IMO) then who cares. They both single now and apparently were single when they went on that trip so it's whatever. And I don't even like Fessy but if her family didn't like him and if one of those reasons being he's Muslim then he dodged bullet bullet as well.
He wasn't single when he was smacking lips with that UK blonde bimbo.That's where the issues are coming from. Having *** with someone after a breakup is not a problem.
We'll never know what her family supposedly said or did. There's always two sides to a story. The key word in your statement is IF and that's a big if. I don't condemn racism on any level but I'm not going to blindly believe everything I read either without some form of receipts.
Again I say she ****** up don't let your BF go on a show with an ambiguous relationship because you are scared to acknowledge him because of your family . He ****** up but she gave him a free pass. Now you publicly post that you we're together after the fact
is this accurate for what we thinks happens next episode?
Lio Quits (leaves gabby rogue), Ashley rejoins, Aneesa beats Tori, Aneesa picks Fessy, Kaycee picks Leroy, Devin picks Gabby/Ashley
I think Lio does the next challenge. And I know Ashley will be Cory's partner after Natalie leaves
so then Devin gets Gabby and then once Natalie leaves do Ashley/Cory immeadiately pair up?
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