Honestly, with how immature and irreverent the general cast seems around covid, I'd be shocked if they don't fly out 10+ alternates. One hotel outbreak could kill the season.
fessy is literally in mexico as we speak lol
And what is your point?
The point is that it is an incredibly unsafe and unethical time to be on vacation in the current health climiate. If you need this explained in further detail just lmk
So literally everyone including the cast hated filming in a cold location but they want to do it again? Watching young hotties in miserable in sweats isn't fun and it limits the missions. Why are the showrunners so beyond stupid?
I feel like they'd just stay in the states, I bet it's hard enough getting the international people to location so why not just keep it simple and avoid travel issues?
It's much more expensive to film in the states. It's also hard to get the UK people here to work--see the reunions
That said, I'd fully support a US season with no internationals
**** i totally forgot about the visas, you're right it's not gonna be here lmaoooo
I feel like they'd just stay in the states, I bet it's hard enough getting the international people to location so why not just keep it simple and avoid travel issues?
It's much more expensive to film in the states. It's also hard to get the UK people here to work--see the reunions
That said, I'd fully support a US season with no internationals
**** i totally forgot about the visas, you're right it's not gonna be here lmaoooo
The point is that it is an incredibly unsafe and unethical time to be on vacation in the current health climiate. If you need this explained in further detail just lmk
So literally everyone including the cast hated filming in a cold location but they want to do it again? Watching young hotties in miserable in sweats isn't fun and it limits the missions. Why are the showrunners so beyond stupid?
The showrunners have proven to be incompetent in the basic aspects of bettering the show for the better part of ten years. Every once in awhile they put out a top tier format or cast (Cutthroat, Rivals, Rivals II, Free Agents, WOTW I) but it's clearly an accident and the next season proves it with shit casting and awful formatting.
Look at the first four episodes of Invasion. It's beautiful. Literally perfect. Win your way into the game or go home. Then, oh *** there's the Champs. We have to battle them? Hot ****! But, oh wait, no, the format is dogshit and ruins a great start.
Bloodlines played out like it was designed by a third grade class that ran out of time and just threw things at the wall.
Of course the ratings would go up if they casted better, put the sexy people in a tropical, fun environment, with a legitimately great format. But that wouldn't be The Challenge, would it? Gimme more explosions and Josh crying and Kyle getting tetanus in the "load garbage into the dumpster challenge while TJ crashes a monster truck into Soviet-era sedans in the background".
Do any of the higher ups actually watch the show? How can they think any missions last season were good tv? How can they see how miserable the cast was and still think that's good tv? Especially in the covid era...
Do any of the higher ups actually watch the show? How can they think any missions last season were good tv? How can they see how miserable the cast was and still think that's good tv? Especially in the covid era...
Do any of the higher ups actually watch the show? How can they think any missions last season were good tv? How can they see how miserable the cast was and still think that's good tv? Especially in the covid era...
Do any of the higher ups actually watch the show? How can they think any missions last season were good tv? How can they see how miserable the cast was and still think that's good tv? Especially in the covid era...
Do any of the higher ups actually watch the show? How can they think any missions last season were good tv? How can they see how miserable the cast was and still think that's good tv? Especially in the covid era...
Ratings Live +3 and Social media engagement.
It's still awful and trash tv.
Have the casuals complain about the living conditions?
Do any of the higher ups actually watch the show? How can they think any missions last season were good tv? How can they see how miserable the cast was and still think that's good tv? Especially in the covid era...
Ratings Live +3 and Social media engagement.
It's still awful and trash tv.
Have the casuals complain about the living conditions?
Anyone who watched last season should have been complaining about the missions in the trash weather. It was clear the cast wasn't having fun and it makes non-thrilling tv. The showrunners are **** at their job and that is the bottom line, there is no debating it. Ratings can be great but the product is still shitty.
Do any of the higher ups actually watch the show? How can they think any missions last season were good tv? How can they see how miserable the cast was and still think that's good tv? Especially in the covid era...
A mix of quarantine and then actually advertising the show for once and advertising it well and a lot I personally think is why ratings were up. It'll be interesting to see how 36 does outside of quarantine if they get a handle on covid by the time it airs and if they continue their advertising as strongly as they did. watching people be miserable is the last thing we need on tv right now.
Not sure what the concern is over the location. Although I'm fine with Survivor being at the same location over and over again and I know that bothers people. if I was going to go on a Challenge I'd be begging for cold weather.
Do any of the higher ups actually watch the show? How can they think any missions last season were good tv? How can they see how miserable the cast was and still think that's good tv? Especially in the covid era...
Ratings Live +3 and Social media engagement.
It's still awful and trash tv.
Have the casuals complain about the living conditions?
I've seen more people act like the bunker was nice and the cast were just whining tbh
Not sure what the concern is over the location. Although I'm fine with Survivor being at the same location over and over again and I know that bothers people. if I was going to go on a Challenge I'd be begging for cold weather.
Not sure what the concern is over the location. Although I'm fine with Survivor being at the same location over and over again and I know that bothers people. if I was going to go on a Challenge I'd be begging for cold weather.
Kam, Ashley, Morgan & Lolo should drop out tbh along with any of the others who are honestly so much better than this show....let MTV torture the trash & have them miserable.
But honestly it shows how downright evil MTV is & how truly disposable the cast is to them at the end of the day if they really have these people underground in the cold yet again; specifically after everything that's been taking place in the States since March. The Queen wasn't lying.... ☕☕☕
Not sure what the concern is over the location. Although I'm fine with Survivor being at the same location over and over again and I know that bothers people. if I was going to go on a Challenge I'd be begging for cold weather.
I bet. Demons love the cold.
You're trying too hard
Not trying at all actually. Facts don't take effort.
Not sure what the concern is over the location. Although I'm fine with Survivor being at the same location over and over again and I know that bothers people. if I was going to go on a Challenge I'd be begging for cold weather.
So you'd want to go in water challenges when it's freezing and go back to a house where there's no hot water?
Not sure what the concern is over the location. Although I'm fine with Survivor being at the same location over and over again and I know that bothers people. if I was going to go on a Challenge I'd be begging for cold weather.
So you'd want to go in water challenges when it's freezing and go back to a house where there's no hot water?
I didn't say anything about the house conditions. I would want hot water.
But, yes, I would take cold/freezing water over temperatures in the 80s or above.
Our opinions dont matter to production lol we are a small portion of the audience
In order to succeed and prosper as a show, showrunners should actively seek focus groups and collect feedback from fans of the show. The hardcore fans of Survivor felt around 2011-2013 that the show was in the "Dark Ages" where the gameplay was stale and the casts were uninspired. It also was the period where Jeff Probst was trying to leave the show for his talk show and beyond. He quickly got slapped back to reality that Survivor was his peak and he should make it better before he loses both jobs.
Around 2013, he actually started reaching out to the fanbase (he actually posted on Survivor Sucks) and the seasons got reinvigorated with great casts and good formats. They even did a full fan-vote casted season. The show had some of its best seasons ever content-wise and the ratings that were tanking (bleeding around 1.5 million per season), stabilized and have even gone up in a couple of seasons.
There is benefit in listening to your core fanbase. Because they are hardcore fans and have seen most seasons and know what works and what doesn't. No one likes these shitty bunkers, no one likes these shitty challenges, no one liked this year's final.
Our opinions dont matter to production lol we are a small portion of the audience
In order to succeed and prosper as a show, showrunners should actively seek focus groups and collect feedback from fans of the show. The hardcore fans of Survivor felt around 2011-2013 that the show was in the "Dark Ages" where the gameplay was stale and the casts were uninspired. It also was the period where Jeff Probst was trying to leave the show for his talk show and beyond. He quickly got slapped back to reality that Survivor was his peak and he should make it better before he loses both jobs.
Around 2013, he actually started reaching out to the fanbase (he actually posted on Survivor Sucks) and the seasons got reinvigorated with great casts and good formats. They even did a full fan-vote casted season. The show had some of its best seasons ever content-wise and the ratings that were tanking (bleeding around 1.5 million per season), stabilized and have even gone up in a couple of seasons.
There is benefit in listening to your core fanbase. Because they are hardcore fans and have seen most seasons and know what works and what doesn't. No one likes these shitty bunkers, no one likes these shitty challenges, no one liked this year's final.
I completely agree but production clearly doesnt feel that way
i didn't even bother to respond lmaooo
So literally everyone including the cast hated filming in a cold location but they want to do it again? Watching young hotties in miserable in sweats isn't fun and it limits the missions. Why are the showrunners so beyond stupid?
**** i totally forgot about the visas, you're right it's not gonna be here lmaoooo
lol no problem
****
The showrunners have proven to be incompetent in the basic aspects of bettering the show for the better part of ten years. Every once in awhile they put out a top tier format or cast (Cutthroat, Rivals, Rivals II, Free Agents, WOTW I) but it's clearly an accident and the next season proves it with shit casting and awful formatting.
Look at the first four episodes of Invasion. It's beautiful. Literally perfect. Win your way into the game or go home. Then, oh *** there's the Champs. We have to battle them? Hot ****! But, oh wait, no, the format is dogshit and ruins a great start.
Bloodlines played out like it was designed by a third grade class that ran out of time and just threw things at the wall.
Of course the ratings would go up if they casted better, put the sexy people in a tropical, fun environment, with a legitimately great format. But that wouldn't be The Challenge, would it? Gimme more explosions and Josh crying and Kyle getting tetanus in the "load garbage into the dumpster challenge while TJ crashes a monster truck into Soviet-era sedans in the background".
^^^ Speak on it! You said a mouthful.
Do any of the higher ups actually watch the show? How can they think any missions last season were good tv? How can they see how miserable the cast was and still think that's good tv? Especially in the covid era...
umm...the ratings?
Ratings Live +3 and Social media engagement.
I know production is geeked at the fact that they get to watch everyone crack this season
It's still awful and trash tv.
Have the casuals complain about the living conditions?
No updates at all? Rookies?
Yea. I heard Katniss Everdeen was rumored for the season.
Anyone who watched last season should have been complaining about the missions in the trash weather. It was clear the cast wasn't having fun and it makes non-thrilling tv. The showrunners are **** at their job and that is the bottom line, there is no debating it. Ratings can be great but the product is still shitty.
preach!
A mix of quarantine and then actually advertising the show for once and advertising it well and a lot I personally think is why ratings were up. It'll be interesting to see how 36 does outside of quarantine if they get a handle on covid by the time it airs and if they continue their advertising as strongly as they did. watching people be miserable is the last thing we need on tv right now.
Not sure what the concern is over the location. Although I'm fine with Survivor being at the same location over and over again and I know that bothers people. if I was going to go on a Challenge I'd be begging for cold weather.
I've seen more people act like the bunker was nice and the cast were just whining tbh
Our opinions dont matter to production lol we are a small portion of the audience
I bet. Demons love the cold.
You're trying too hard
Kam, Ashley, Morgan & Lolo should drop out tbh along with any of the others who are honestly so much better than this show....let MTV torture the trash & have them miserable.
But honestly it shows how downright evil MTV is & how truly disposable the cast is to them at the end of the day if they really have these people underground in the cold yet again; specifically after everything that's been taking place in the States since March. The Queen wasn't lying.... ☕☕☕
Not trying at all actually. Facts don't take effort.
So you'd want to go in water challenges when it's freezing and go back to a house where there's no hot water?
I didn't say anything about the house conditions. I would want hot water.
But, yes, I would take cold/freezing water over temperatures in the 80s or above.
In order to succeed and prosper as a show, showrunners should actively seek focus groups and collect feedback from fans of the show. The hardcore fans of Survivor felt around 2011-2013 that the show was in the "Dark Ages" where the gameplay was stale and the casts were uninspired. It also was the period where Jeff Probst was trying to leave the show for his talk show and beyond. He quickly got slapped back to reality that Survivor was his peak and he should make it better before he loses both jobs.
Around 2013, he actually started reaching out to the fanbase (he actually posted on Survivor Sucks) and the seasons got reinvigorated with great casts and good formats. They even did a full fan-vote casted season. The show had some of its best seasons ever content-wise and the ratings that were tanking (bleeding around 1.5 million per season), stabilized and have even gone up in a couple of seasons.
There is benefit in listening to your core fanbase. Because they are hardcore fans and have seen most seasons and know what works and what doesn't. No one likes these shitty bunkers, no one likes these shitty challenges, no one liked this year's final.
I completely agree but production clearly doesnt feel that way
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