I understand wanting Marlon to be on, I certainly think he should, but what is this obsession with Avery? LOL she didn't do anything.
Tbh she had a lot of potential. She was in the biggest fight in RW history and despite "not doing anything" was the center of a lot of drama on Exes II for the first half of that season if you rewatch it. Yeah her and Johnny's story was old but it was EXES after all lol
she could compete and she was a drama magnet. What's the obsession with Marlon who generally is wallpaper in comparison is the real question
Not quite sure what show with Marlon that you watched, but hes been far from wallpaper lmao. I'm an Averey fan by all means, but I do understand the reasoning for her not being contacted. And once again I don't understand the absolute obsessions with her
I'm all for bringing Marlon back but he was fairly invisible on Rivals 2. Hunter was an idiot giving him some air time...he hooked up with Derek and Nany (?-I forget what girl but she seems likely)...did he do anything else?
He did good in eliminations & alright in dailies. But of course he did have Jordan as a partner so that definitely helps. Marlon is a former D1 college football athlete. Would love to see him crush a big dude like CT, Zach, or Rogan in a physical elimination for once.
Despite all my talking against Cara on the past she is the only one from those 4 that have anything left to give & she is the one that they chose not to use
It speaks volumes to the treatment of men vs women on this show too. Ironic that MTV is trying to appear all socially just and their sexism is showing now more than ever with banning of Dee but letting men slide and Cara being left off when Johnny wrote a damn letter when he was left off Seasons and parades around all the time bashing things when he is "treated unfairly" like when they had mercenaries come in on FR that were against him etc etc.
Cara has a big mouth but she is the female face (unfortunately) and it just shows how little they value women versus men in this world
Cara did it to herself why cry or make excuses for her. If she was actually the face of the show for the woman than she would be on this season. But I am guessing production doesn't think so & will probably go in a new direction away from Cara. If she ever wants back on the show she should probably drop Paulie as well.
Despite all my talking against Cara on the past she is the only one from those 4 that have anything left to give & she is the one that they chose not to use
It speaks volumes to the treatment of men vs women on this show too. Ironic that MTV is trying to appear all socially just and their sexism is showing now more than ever with banning of Dee but letting men slide and Cara being left off when Johnny wrote a damn letter when he was left off Seasons and parades around all the time bashing things when he is "treated unfairly" like when they had mercenaries come in on FR that were against him etc etc.
Cara has a big mouth but she is the female face (unfortunately) and it just shows how little they value women versus men in this world
Cara did it to herself why cry or make excuses for her. If she was actually the face of the show for the woman than she would be on this season. But I am guessing production doesn't think so & will probably go in a new direction away from Cara. If she ever wants back on the show she should probably drop Paulie as well.
I actually agree with you for once. Whining and crying about this show will never help your chances of getting cast again.
Lolo can't even salvage this mess. This cast is ******* atrocious. God, I wish I could quit this show, but I know I can't let it go until it's cancelled.
pretty simple solution. Change the channel or just get busy with something better to do.
Um, easier said then done, but thanks for the obvious answer to a question I wasn't even asking.
I actually agree with you for once. Whining and crying about this show will never help your chances of getting cast again.
The point was that it won't hurt someone's chances if the whiners are certain men. Sexually assaulting someone in an elevator isn't enough to prevent some guys from being on the show.
I dislike Cara and do not want her back on the show but the double standard still exists.
Production replaced Cara with Jenny and aren't looking back
Cara we always be better TV character than Jenny.
The only entertaining brolic muscle girls like them or hate them have been Cara/Zanatta. The rest left their personalities inside their mother's uterus. (Not counting Laurel because she is an Amazonian not brolic)
Production replaced Cara with Jenny and aren't looking back
Cara we always be better TV character than Jenny.
The only entertaining brolic muscle girls like them or hate them have been Cara/Zanatta. The rest left their personalities inside their mother's uterus. (Not counting Laurel because she is an Amazonian not brolic)
i don't disagree. But look at how they are treating Jenny now and not having Cara back
I'm indifferent when it comes to Cara and I think it's crazy how the "female face" of the challenge is getting ignored by production. BUT her trashing the show and production definitely does not help her out. Like you can't be dragging your job and expect there to be no consequences.
i don't disagree. But look at how they are treating Jenny now and not having Cara back
They're not replacing Cara with Jenny because Jenny will never be enteraining enough to be the face of the show. I mean, they haven't promoted Jenny anywhere near what they've done with many past female winners. Hell, she didn't even get as much attention as past female losers, like Georgia or Kam or Nany or Kailah just in the most recent seasons.
It might have been because Bananas winning again was bigger but other than the rumors of Jenny okaying the share of the money, her win got little to no fanfare.
I'm indifferent when it comes to Cara and I think it's crazy how the "female face" of the challenge is getting ignored by production. BUT her trashing the show and production definitely does not help her out. Like you can't be dragging your job and expect there to be no consequences.
i don't disagree. But look at how they are treating Jenny now and not having Cara back
They're not replacing Cara with Jenny because Jenny will never be enteraining enough to be the face of the show. I mean, they haven't promoted Jenny anywhere near what they've done with many past female winners. Hell, she didn't even get as much attention as past female losers, like Georgia or Kam or Nany or Kailah just in the most recent seasons.
It might have been because Bananas winning again was bigger but other than the rumors of Jenny okaying the share of the money, her win got little to no fanfare.
i get what you're sayin. But look who's getting called back and whos not
I'm indifferent when it comes to Cara and I think it's crazy how the "female face" of the challenge is getting ignored by production. BUT her trashing the show and production definitely does not help her out. Like you can't be dragging your job and expect there to be no consequences.
Again, Bananas has trashed the show in the past, even wrote a letter about being left off Season, and it didn't hurt him. And then he sexually assult someone on another MTV show and they still cast him.
Like Cara or not, think it's stupid to bad mouth the show or whatever, wish she was never on again is fine - the fact remains that it's a double standard.
i get what you're sayin. But look who's getting called back and whos not
Jenny being cast again doesn't have anything to do with Cara not being there though.
Jenny is there because she was the most recent winner and they typically ask them back.
Cara isn't there for her own reasons unrelated to Jenny (stupid as they may be). The fact that they've cast Cara and Nicole Z on multiple seasons together means they're not shy about having more than one brolic girl per season.
I'm indifferent when it comes to Cara and I think it's crazy how the "female face" of the challenge is getting ignored by production. BUT her trashing the show and production definitely does not help her out. Like you can't be dragging your job and expect there to be no consequences.
Again, Bananas has trashed the show in the past, even wrote a letter about being left off Season, and it didn't hurt him. And then he sexually assult someone on another MTV show and they still cast him.
Like Cara or not, think it's stupid to bad mouth the show or whatever, wish she was never on again is fine - the fact remains that it's a double standard.
The ratings were trash on Seasons 2 which is why John was welcomed back in open arms. They believe(d) they needed him for the success fo the show. If Seasons had great ratings and thrived without him that could have been a very different situations. Cara was an alternate on multiple seasons including Seasons which flopped. She was never John. And I hate John.
Was Cara "the face of the show"? I guess but I never really thought of her like that.
She's the one they had on billboards for a while, replacing Camila. They rotate through the girls, it's the dudes they don't move on from fast enough even though some are equally as trash.
i get what you're sayin. But look who's getting called back and whos not
Jenny being cast again doesn't have anything to do with Cara not being there though.
Jenny is there because she was the most recent winner and they typically ask them back.
Cara isn't there for her own reasons unrelated to Jenny (stupid as they may be). The fact that they've cast Cara and Nicole Z on multiple seasons together means they're not shy about having more than one brolic girl per season.
cara isn't there for her own reasons? Are you not keeping up?
If Cara would actually have shut up and just take a break instead of badmouthing the show, saying it was rigged and talking about ratings that clearly she didn't have any idea about then she would be back. Doing all that pissed off the wrong person imo
If Cara would actually have shut up and just take a break instead of badmouthing the show, saying it was rigged and talking about ratings that clearly she didn't have any idea about then she would be back. Doing all that pissed off the wrong person imo
The ratings were trash on Seasons 2 which is why John was welcomed back in open arms. They believe(d) they needed him for the success fo the show. If Seasons had great ratings and thrived without him that could have been a very different situations. Cara was an alternate on multiple seasons including Seasons which flopped. She was never John. And I hate John.
No one is claiming she's Bananas but the fact that he did the same thing Cara is being somewhat blacklisted for plus assault is just pretty telling about how the show treats men vs women.
If the report was Cara wasn't on the show because they don't think she adds anything else, I don't think anyone would blink an eye. This just rubs people the wrong way because it's stupid. I mean, there are multiple people now who dislike Cara making this point. That's how dumb it is lol.
I'm indifferent when it comes to Cara and I think it's crazy how the "female face" of the challenge is getting ignored by production. BUT her trashing the show and production definitely does not help her out. Like you can't be dragging your job and expect there to be no consequences.
Again, Bananas has trashed the show in the past, even wrote a letter about being left off Season, and it didn't hurt him. And then he sexually assult someone on another MTV show and they still cast him.
Like Cara or not, think it's stupid to bad mouth the show or whatever, wish she was never on again is fine - the fact remains that it's a double standard.
The ratings were trash on Seasons 2 which is why John was welcomed back in open arms. They believe(d) they needed him for the success fo the show. If Seasons had great ratings and thrived without him that could have been a very different situations. Cara was an alternate on multiple seasons including Seasons which flopped. She was never John. And I hate John.
Cara was 100% the female face of the show she started becoming that during free agents/bloodlines. Camila too.
cara isn't there for her own reasons? Are you not keeping up?
You're reading that sentence wrong or I didn't word it very well.
It's split "Cara isn't there" = Cara isn't being invited back, "for her own reasons unrelated to Jenny" = which is her own fault that was seperate from Jenny's casting.
I was saying the reasons for Cara not being invited back aren't related to Jenny but they are her own fault. It's not mutually exclusive that Cara was an idiot but that the show is being hypocritical in how they're treating her vs men.
cara isn't there for her own reasons? Are you not keeping up?
You're reading that sentence wrong or I didn't word it very well. It's split "Cara isn't there" = Cara isn't being invited back, "for her own reasons unrelated to Jenny" = which is her own fault that was seperate from Jenny's casting.
The ratings were trash on Seasons 2 which is why John was welcomed back in open arms. They believe(d) they needed him for the success fo the show. If Seasons had great ratings and thrived without him that could have been a very different situations. Cara was an alternate on multiple seasons including Seasons which flopped. She was never John. And I hate John.
No one is claiming she's Bananas but the fact that he did the same thing Cara is being somewhat blacklisted for plus assault is just pretty telling about how the show treats men vs women.
If the report was Cara wasn't on the show because they don't think she adds anything else, I don't think anyone would blink an eye. This just rubs people the wrong way because it's stupid. I mean, there are multiple people now who dislike Cara making this point. That's how dumb it is lol.
You're creating something out of nothing with the sexist stuff. Cara isn't on because she overreacted to Paulie being on and she isn't "a need" for the show.
The whole ALLEGED assault thing means nothing if they can insure him
I don't think many people are upset about Cara not being a priority.
He did good in eliminations & alright in dailies. But of course he did have Jordan as a partner so that definitely helps. Marlon is a former D1 college football athlete. Would love to see him crush a big dude like CT, Zach, or Rogan in a physical elimination for once.
Lolo quitting second week there
haha that could be true although she's a competitor so...
Cara did it to herself why cry or make excuses for her. If she was actually the face of the show for the woman than she would be on this season. But I am guessing production doesn't think so & will probably go in a new direction away from Cara. If she ever wants back on the show she should probably drop Paulie as well.
I actually agree with you for once. Whining and crying about this show will never help your chances of getting cast again.
Um, easier said then done, but thanks for the obvious answer to a question I wasn't even asking.
Production replaced Cara with Jenny and aren't looking back
Congrats Cara, you played yourself.
The point was that it won't hurt someone's chances if the whiners are certain men. Sexually assaulting someone in an elevator isn't enough to prevent some guys from being on the show.
I dislike Cara and do not want her back on the show but the double standard still exists.
Cara we always be better TV character than Jenny.
The only entertaining brolic muscle girls like them or hate them have been Cara/Zanatta. The rest left their personalities inside their mother's uterus. (Not counting Laurel because she is an Amazonian not brolic)
i don't disagree. But look at how they are treating Jenny now and not having Cara back
I'm indifferent when it comes to Cara and I think it's crazy how the "female face" of the challenge is getting ignored by production. BUT her trashing the show and production definitely does not help her out. Like you can't be dragging your job and expect there to be no consequences.
They're not replacing Cara with Jenny because Jenny will never be enteraining enough to be the face of the show. I mean, they haven't promoted Jenny anywhere near what they've done with many past female winners. Hell, she didn't even get as much attention as past female losers, like Georgia or Kam or Nany or Kailah just in the most recent seasons.
It might have been because Bananas winning again was bigger but other than the rumors of Jenny okaying the share of the money, her win got little to no fanfare.
i get what you're sayin. But look who's getting called back and whos not
Again, Bananas has trashed the show in the past, even wrote a letter about being left off Season, and it didn't hurt him. And then he sexually assult someone on another MTV show and they still cast him.
Like Cara or not, think it's stupid to bad mouth the show or whatever, wish she was never on again is fine - the fact remains that it's a double standard.
Was Cara "the face of the show"? I guess but I never really thought of her like that.
Jenny being cast again doesn't have anything to do with Cara not being there though.
Jenny is there because she was the most recent winner and they typically ask them back.
Cara isn't there for her own reasons unrelated to Jenny (stupid as they may be). The fact that they've cast Cara and Nicole Z on multiple seasons together means they're not shy about having more than one brolic girl per season.
The ratings were trash on Seasons 2 which is why John was welcomed back in open arms. They believe(d) they needed him for the success fo the show. If Seasons had great ratings and thrived without him that could have been a very different situations. Cara was an alternate on multiple seasons including Seasons which flopped. She was never John. And I hate John.
She's the one they had on billboards for a while, replacing Camila. They rotate through the girls, it's the dudes they don't move on from fast enough even though some are equally as trash.
cara isn't there for her own reasons? Are you not keeping up?
If Cara would actually have shut up and just take a break instead of badmouthing the show, saying it was rigged and talking about ratings that clearly she didn't have any idea about then she would be back. Doing all that pissed off the wrong person imo
No one is claiming she's Bananas but the fact that he did the same thing Cara is being somewhat blacklisted for plus assault is just pretty telling about how the show treats men vs women.
If the report was Cara wasn't on the show because they don't think she adds anything else, I don't think anyone would blink an eye. This just rubs people the wrong way because it's stupid. I mean, there are multiple people now who dislike Cara making this point. That's how dumb it is lol.
So there is no truth to the Amber Borzotra rumour?
Cara was 100% the female face of the show she started becoming that during free agents/bloodlines. Camila too.
You're reading that sentence wrong or I didn't word it very well.
It's split "Cara isn't there" = Cara isn't being invited back, "for her own reasons unrelated to Jenny" = which is her own fault that was seperate from Jenny's casting.
I was saying the reasons for Cara not being invited back aren't related to Jenny but they are her own fault. It's not mutually exclusive that Cara was an idiot but that the show is being hypocritical in how they're treating her vs men.
gotcha thanks for clarifying lol
You're creating something out of nothing with the sexist stuff. Cara isn't on because she overreacted to Paulie being on and she isn't "a need" for the show.
The whole ALLEGED assault thing means nothing if they can insure him
I don't think many people are upset about Cara not being a priority.
No worries, I realize that it was an improper sentence the more I reread it lol
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