The Challenge: Total Madness Discussion (SPOILERS)

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I was thinking that to until i thought maybe the house vote was nelson and fessy. Wes wouldnt volunteer to go against them. So i think maybe jordan was a tribunal vote. Only sense i make out of it. 

Wes should've waited for Josh. After that double elimination the only people who were eligible for a skull were Josh Kyle Swaggy & Cory not including Bananas because he was already going in at that elimination anyways. He could've beat those four in anything but greed got in the way. He's not as smart as he thinks 

Wes should've waited for Josh. After that double elimination the only people who were eligible for a skull were Josh Kyle Swaggy & Cory not including Bananas because he was already going in at that elimination anyways. He could've beat those four in anything but greed got in the way.

His safest bet would've been Josh. Wes wasn't gonna go against Swaggy, Kyle has his moments, and it can go either way when Cory steps into an elimination. Josh would've been a quick win, I don't think Wes would want to add on to Josh imaginary rivalry though.

Melissa and Nany elimination round looks like some form of BALLS IN. 

Do we actually see the double elimination this week? Have a feeling gonna be a weird cut off again.

also Cory and swaggy elimination looks like some kind of swinging thing 

Cory been on so many season and can't get a **** physical elimination to save his **** life. Some sort of balls in, hall brawl shit. 

No glimpse of Aneesa vs Bayleigh?

Cory been on so many season and can't get a **** physical elimination to save his **** life. Some sort of balls in, hall brawl shit. 

I'm just now realizing this lol. 

Cory been on so many season and can't get a **** physical elimination to save his **** life. Some sort of balls in, hall brawl shit. 

vs. Nelson and Shane?

He's gotten athletic eliminations for the most part though, not like crapshoots or anything. except the one vs. Theo

Wait, so Wes didnt throw the elimination against John and lost on purpose?

 yea I'm a little confused as to how Johnny vs Wes is set up. Does Wes volunteer to go in against Johnny? Or does the house set it up because they finally figured out the worst secret alliance  

Wait, so Wes didnt throw the elimination against John and lost on purpose?

 yea I'm a little confused as to how Johnny vs Wes is set up. Does Wes volunteer to go in against Johnny? Or does the house set it up because they finally figured out the worst secret alliance  

 

Wait, so Wes didnt throw the elimination against John and lost on purpose?

I believe that it was said that Wes volunteered. And it's just a little too convenient with the tea that Cara spilled about production rigging things this season especially hard because it was Johnny's 20th season. Wes probably got a nice little deal to go down there and throw it

 yea I'm a little confused as to how Johnny vs Wes is set up. Does Wes volunteer to go in against Johnny? Or does the house set it up because they finally figured out the worst secret alliance  

 

Wait, so Wes didnt throw the elimination against John and lost on purpose?

I believe that it was said that Wes volunteered. And it's just a little too convenient with the tea that Cara spilled about production rigging things this season especially hard because it was Johnny's 20th season. Wes probably got a nice little deal to go down there and throw it

And why is she reliable? The one season she takes off and her bf gets dropped, all of a sudden the season is rigged..? Her "tea" seems a little too convenient.. Wes probably went in against Johnny for storyline purposes.. that's all he's about now. Not winning, just pushing a "story" forward. I don't think Wes, Jordan, Cory, Nelson, Rogan, CT all came on this season to make sure Johnny won.

**** that sucks but makes complete sense because they're working together all of a sudden. Their rivalry has been fake for years so why now? I could production asking them for this storyline and then having Wes throw the elimination. Because why else would Wes volunteer to go against the guy he's been working with all season. How many times does Johnny have to secure a guy that's willing to throw an elimination for him. Zach on WOTW and now Wes.  

 

 yea I'm a little confused as to how Johnny vs Wes is set up. Does Wes volunteer to go in against Johnny? Or does the house set it up because they finally figured out the worst secret alliance  

 

Wait, so Wes didnt throw the elimination against John and lost on purpose?

I believe that it was said that Wes volunteered. And it's just a little too convenient with the tea that Cara spilled about production rigging things this season especially hard because it was Johnny's 20th season. Wes probably got a nice little deal to go down there and throw it

rigged doesn't necessarily mean scripted. I doubt anyone thinks the whole cast was in on it but production has been known to rig certain things in favor for the person who they want to win

 yea I'm a little confused as to how Johnny vs Wes is set up. Does Wes volunteer to go in against Johnny? Or does the house set it up because they finally figured out the worst secret alliance  

 

Wait, so Wes didnt throw the elimination against John and lost on purpose?

I believe that it was said that Wes volunteered. And it's just a little too convenient with the tea that Cara spilled about production rigging things this season especially hard because it was Johnny's 20th season. Wes probably got a nice little deal to go down there and throw it

And why is she reliable? The one season she takes off and her bf gets dropped, all of a sudden the season is rigged..? Her "tea" seems a little too convenient.. Wes probably went in against Johnny for storyline purposes.. that's all he's about now. Not winning, just pushing a "story" forward. I don't think Wes, Jordan, Cory, Nelson, Rogan, CT all came on this season to make sure Johnny won.

No glimpse of Aneesa vs Bayleigh?

It's the same as Kyle and Josh the cars thing

They edit out bananas telling Big T that Mattie was talking shit that's why she was like "Oh is she?" Before jumping from her bunk bed

https://twitter.com/ChallengeMTV/status/1262830383009325056?s=09

rigged doesn't necessarily mean scripted. I doubt anyone thinks the whole cast was in on it but production has been known to rig certain things in favor for the person who they want to win

 yea I'm a little confused as to how Johnny vs Wes is set up. Does Wes volunteer to go in against Johnny? Or does the house set it up because they finally figured out the worst secret alliance  

 

Wait, so Wes didnt throw the elimination against John and lost on purpose?

I believe that it was said that Wes volunteered. And it's just a little too convenient with the tea that Cara spilled about production rigging things this season especially hard because it was Johnny's 20th season. Wes probably got a nice little deal to go down there and throw it

And why is she reliable? The one season she takes off and her bf gets dropped, all of a sudden the season is rigged..? Her "tea" seems a little too convenient.. Wes probably went in against Johnny for storyline purposes.. that's all he's about now. Not winning, just pushing a "story" forward. I don't think Wes, Jordan, Cory, Nelson, Rogan, CT all came on this season to make sure Johnny won.

True but we've been hearing that for a while now... it feels like almost every season someone claims Johnny got certain people dropped or got his friends/allies cast and it was rigged in someway for him to win.. and this red skull twist works against him based on previous performances. I'd never think he'd win two eliminations in one season ever again in his career lol

 yea I'm a little confused as to how Johnny vs Wes is set up. Does Wes volunteer to go in against Johnny? Or does the house set it up because they finally figured out the worst secret alliance  

 

Wait, so Wes didnt throw the elimination against John and lost on purpose?

I believe that it was said that Wes volunteered. And it's just a little too convenient with the tea that Cara spilled about production rigging things this season especially hard because it was Johnny's 20th season. Wes probably got a nice little deal to go down there and throw it

And why is she reliable? The one season she takes off and her bf gets dropped, all of a sudden the season is rigged..? Her "tea" seems a little too convenient.. Wes probably went in against Johnny for storyline purposes.. that's all he's about now. Not winning, just pushing a "story" forward. I don't think Wes, Jordan, Cory, Nelson, Rogan, CT all came on this season to make sure Johnny won.

i mean production does push who they want to win. that's not a secret. it doesn't mean it's guaranteed? of course not because even with help Bananas is a choke artist (see Zach on WOTW1). they just pushed extra hard this season given the 20th season thing and it's a little convenient that they come in with a pre-season alliance ready. we can continue to stick our head in the sand about it or we can acknowledge that it's happened for as long as the show's been around and even more-so nowadays. im sure Johnny vs Rogan certainly wasn't physical for instance lol

do i think he was "handed" a win? no, he still worked for it i guess. but let's not act like this show is 100% fair and righteous and not bias.

They edit out bananas telling Big T that Mattie was talking shit that's why she was like "Oh is she?" Before jumping from her bunk bed

https://twitter.com/ChallengeMTV/status/**********009325056?s=09

That was weird.. they were all just staring at her lol
And why did she jump off the bed? I didn't hear anyone say anything.

Like do we really think giving Jordan an X-battle elimination was an accident? lol he's their biggest obstacle and that's the only elimination he's pretty much guaranteed to lose

How are they protecting Mattie? What did she do?

Cory been on so many season and can't get a **** physical elimination to save his **** life. Some sort of balls in, hall brawl shit. 

He's literally never physically gone head to head with someone before, how am I just noticing this? lmaooo.

So we aren't seeing that Mattie vs Big T fight either.......

They edit out bananas telling Big T that Mattie was talking shit that's why she was like "Oh is she?" Before jumping from her bunk bed

https://twitter.com/ChallengeMTV/status/**********009325056?s=09

That was weird.. they were all just staring at her lolAnd why did she jump off the bed? I didn't hear anyone say anything.

When we heard about this we were told that bananas told Big T Mattie was talking about her and she jumped from her bed that's when she got injured. I am assuming that's why she says "oh! is she?"

How are they protecting Mattie? What did she do?

Mattie have meltdowns during the first week or w.e but none of that has been shown.

 

How are they protecting Mattie? What did she do?

Mattie have meltdowns during the first week or w.e but none of that has been shown.

Is it protecting or they're just not interested in her shit? lol

 

How are they protecting Mattie? What did she do?

Mattie have meltdowns during the first week or w.e but none of that has been shown.

Is it protecting or they're just not interested in her shit? lol

I mean that would've been way more interesting than the Rogan/Dee stuff we got the first few episodes..

 

No glimpse of Aneesa vs Bayleigh?

It's the same as Kyle and Josh the cars thing

So we are getting a third double elimination but with 1 guy and 1 girl leaving?

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