The Challenge: Total Madness Discussion (SPOILERS)

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I'm just ready for casting to begin for 36 so we can just move on from this disaster of a season

I feel like I say this every other season. Last good outcome was Turbo winning. Johnny winning has soured this entire season I can't even enjoy Jenny winning. Let's hope 36 not only has flavor but a good cast 

For you maybe, but some people actually enjoy it when Bananas wins. He is the champ!

I don't mind it when it's actually a good, enjoyable season and the winners had to fight for it.. Free Agents is one of my favorite seasons to re-watch, even the final is entertaining to watch regardless of the winners.

if you have that much of an open mind then let's see how you enjoy this season despite him winning. you might even consider it a top 5

The winners are the least of my worries. As long as drama, competition, challenges are fun to watch. I don't matter. lol

But people give John too much power in dictating if they enjoy the show or not.

It's hard to enjoy when he literally has had to fabricate storylines like the notes on Vendettas that entire episodes are wasted on. That's what happens when he stays too long on a season, he has a million confessionals and actual good confessional people and storylines are put on the backburner for his BS. So yeah, it's a little harder to enjoy when he makes it far.

I think what a lot of you haters on this site always forget is it's hard for you. But a lot of people outside vevmo actually are fans of Bananas & enjoy him being on for a majority of the season. If you actually paid attention on the seasons of the challenge champs vs stars. Bananas & Ct were the most known challengers. A lot of the stars were actual fans of Bananas & even Jimmy Fallon on his tonight show claimed to be a huge fan of Bananas. It just goes to show besides the people on vevmo the dude has tons of fans everywhere who want him to win.

Hence why we call them "casuals". People who watch the show nonchalantly are going to recognize him because he's been on practically 2/3 of the seasons at this point. These people also aren't that into the show where they don't know how horrible he is as a human. I mean, subjectively we can dislike him for whatever reason. But objectively someone who acts like he's above the show and fabricates storylines because he "thinks like a producer", breaks the rules several times (adderall, etc) and gets away with it, earns his wins by making behind the scenes deals that you're not supposed to, sexually assaulting girls, belittling females, mental health, etc. He's your all American ****** bag and most people who are more than just a casual viewer and know about his actions hate him, hence why most on Vevmo hate him. The more people get into the show and the more they learn about him, the more they usually hate him. 

And lol you really think Jimmy Fallon is a fan or gives a ****? He's a "huge fan" of anyone who comes on his show. He's a ******* talk show host, that's what he's supposed to do lmao

And lol you really think Jimmy Fallon is a fan or gives a ****? He's a "huge fan" of anyone who comes on his show. He's a ******* talk show host, that's what he's supposed to do lmao

Exactly, Fallon's one of the most fakest entertainment personality in Hollywood and is known for making paid deals to get acts on his show. Not saying Bananas doesn't have popularity because I can careless but being on 3/4 of the series and basically forced down our throats you better be something and better let it work for you. & doesn't mean we have to like it because we know what really goes on behind the scenes. 

Ridiculousness ratings last night is more proof than none of these cast members are a rating magnet despite what they like to claim. Stuff airing at 2 am did better after all the promo bananas did maoo

 

And lol you really think Jimmy Fallon is a fan or gives a ****? He's a "huge fan" of anyone who comes on his show. He's a ******* talk show host, that's what he's supposed to do lmao

Exactly, Fallon's one of the most fakest entertainment personality in Hollywood and is known for making paid deals to get acts on his show. Not saying Bananas doesn't have popularity because I can careless but being on 3/4 of the series and basically forced down our throats you better be something and better let it work for you. & doesn't mean we have to like it because we know what really goes on behind the scenes. 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just ready for casting to begin for 36 so we can just move on from this disaster of a season

I feel like I say this every other season. Last good outcome was Turbo winning. Johnny winning has soured this entire season I can't even enjoy Jenny winning. Let's hope 36 not only has flavor but a good cast 

For you maybe, but some people actually enjoy it when Bananas wins. He is the champ!

I don't mind it when it's actually a good, enjoyable season and the winners had to fight for it.. Free Agents is one of my favorite seasons to re-watch, even the final is entertaining to watch regardless of the winners.

if you have that much of an open mind then let's see how you enjoy this season despite him winning. you might even consider it a top 5

The winners are the least of my worries. As long as drama, competition, challenges are fun to watch. I don't matter. lol

But people give John too much power in dictating if they enjoy the show or not.

It's hard to enjoy when he literally has had to fabricate storylines like the notes on Vendettas that entire episodes are wasted on. That's what happens when he stays too long on a season, he has a million confessionals and actual good confessional people and storylines are put on the backburner for his BS. So yeah, it's a little harder to enjoy when he makes it far.

I think what a lot of you haters on this site always forget is it's hard for you. But a lot of people outside vevmo actually are fans of Bananas & enjoy him being on for a majority of the season. If you actually paid attention on the seasons of the challenge champs vs stars. Bananas & Ct were the most known challengers. A lot of the stars were actual fans of Bananas & even Jimmy Fallon on his tonight show claimed to be a huge fan of Bananas. It just goes to show besides the people on vevmo the dude has tons of fans everywhere who want him to win.

i'd hate to be some sort of challenge hipster but the majority opinion of this show kinda sucks.

i really wish casuals actually understood the fact that he climbed the challenge ranks throughout the years by being a third wheel to JEK and also bullying his way to the top in order to get power. seeing the praise he's probably going to get this season with an underdog edit he'll probably get will sour a lot of the season for me and others

Who asked for this?

https://twitter.com/BuschFamBrewed/status/**********283842560?s=19 

We really don't need yet another show about a useless rich white family. I'm really starting to think MTV doesn't know their audience or what even the **** it wants to be.

 

Who asked for this?

https://twitter.com/BuschFamBrewed/status/**********283842560?s=19 

We really don't need yet another show about a useless rich white family. I'm really starting to think MTV doesn't know their audience or what even the **** it wants to be.

I don't think they realize how diverse their audience really is though. Most of the shows are dedicated to white families and white social circles. I know Non-Caucasian viewers kinda feel alienated. Most of their actual ethnic programming has been either removed or moved to VH1. ☕️

People give the same arguments against Johnny, completely forgetting his mental sister Ashley, who is ready to do anything to participate and win the show, and does not even hide it.But if Ashley does something similar to what Johnny does, then Ashley is called the Queen.Right now, this is the highest level of sexism.And people forget that the micro-community of this site is a drop in the ocean among the viewers of this show, who have been watching it for 20 years.And if Banas and CT are hated here,then most viewers love Them, regardless of your "expert opinion".Personally, I would send both of them to resign, but this does not mean that they do not have fans, on the contrary, there are a lot of them

People give the same arguments against Johnny, completely forgetting his mental sister Ashley, who is ready to do anything to participate and win the show, and does not even hide it.But if Ashley does something similar to what Johnny does, then Ashley is called the Queen.Right now, this is the highest level of sexism.And people forget that the micro-community of this site is a drop in the ocean among the viewers of this show, who have been watching it for 20 years.And if Banas and CT are hated here,then most viewers love Them, regardless of your "expert opinion".Personally, I would send both of them to resign, but this does not mean that they do not have fans, on the contrary, there are a lot of them

Their fans for sure doesnt love them enough to make any of their shows/specials outside the challenge an actual success. Hence the dating show episodes,  wedding special and ridiculousness episodes have failed miserably in the ratings department. 

People give the same arguments against Johnny, completely forgetting his mental sister Ashley, who is ready to do anything to participate and win the show, and does not even hide it.But if Ashley does something similar to what Johnny does, then Ashley is called the Queen.Right now, this is the highest level of sexism.And people forget that the micro-community of this site is a drop in the ocean among the viewers of this show, who have been watching it for 20 years.And if Banas and CT are hated here,then most viewers love Them, regardless of your "expert opinion".Personally, I would send both of them to resign, but this does not mean that they do not have fans, on the contrary, there are a lot of them

maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Bananas is more hated than CT on here. Most of us just want CT's smelly self to retire since he hasnt contributed much onto the show in recent seasons (besides that elim against Darrell and winning Invasion & WOTW2). Bananas has cheated in finals to win and wouldn't be anything big if Evan/Kenny continued. Ashley's won fair and square each time and hasn't had an episode of hers get cancelled for allegations of sexual assault. She's def said some mean stuff that crossed the line (buying Cory's family and body shaming Jaime) and I never gave her a pass on that but she's not identical to John. 

That fabricated storyline has was indeed cringe worthy, but he's just a fraction of what vendettas was. I enjoy most seasons despite John, lol. But obviously, to each their own.

 

 

 

I'm just ready for casting to begin for 36 so we can just move on from this disaster of a season

I feel like I say this every other season. Last good outcome was Turbo winning. Johnny winning has soured this entire season I can't even enjoy Jenny winning. Let's hope 36 not only has flavor but a good cast 

For you maybe, but some people actually enjoy it when Bananas wins. He is the champ!

I don't mind it when it's actually a good, enjoyable season and the winners had to fight for it.. Free Agents is one of my favorite seasons to re-watch, even the final is entertaining to watch regardless of the winners.

if you have that much of an open mind then let's see how you enjoy this season despite him winning. you might even consider it a top 5

The winners are the least of my worries. As long as drama, competition, challenges are fun to watch. I don't matter. lol

But people give John too much power in dictating if they enjoy the show or not.

It's hard to enjoy when he literally has had to fabricate storylines like the notes on Vendettas that entire episodes are wasted on. That's what happens when he stays too long on a season, he has a million confessionals and actual good confessional people and storylines are put on the backburner for his BS. So yeah, it's a little harder to enjoy when he makes it far.

Ridiculousness ratings last night is more proof than none of these cast members are a rating magnet despite what they like to claim. Stuff airing at 2 am did better after all the promo bananas did maoo

Aw man...they missed a perfect time to launch this season's promo campaign, but oh well. I really don't think MTV cares and that's ok...

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People give the same arguments against Johnny, completely forgetting his mental sister Ashley, who is ready to do anything to participate and win the show, and does not even hide it.But if Ashley does something similar to what Johnny does, then Ashley is called the Queen.Right now, this is the highest level of sexism.And people forget that the micro-community of this site is a drop in the ocean among the viewers of this show, who have been watching it for 20 years.And if Banas and CT are hated here,then most viewers love Them, regardless of your "expert opinion".Personally, I would send both of them to resign, but this does not mean that they do not have fans, on the contrary, there are a lot of them

maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Bananas is more hated than CT on here. Most of us just want CT's smelly self to retire since he hasnt contributed much onto the show in recent seasons (besides that elim against Darrell and winning Invasion & WOTW2). Bananas has cheated in finals to win and wouldn't be anything big if Evan/Kenny continued. Ashley's won fair and square each time and hasn't had an episode of hers get cancelled for allegations of sexual assault. She's def said some mean stuff that crossed the line (buying Cory's family and body shaming Jaime) and I never gave her a pass on that but she's not identical to John. 

Ashley won fair and square?Does anyone still believe that?The producers gave Ashley a victory in the easiest finale in the show's history so that she would steal money from Hunter, and only a naive person can deny it...lolBananas won 8 seasons, at least 5 of them do not need to doubt that he won unfairly.Ashley used Amanda twice, threw a grenade at Sylvia in the final, but people persist in ignoring these facts.Understand, I don't mind all this-such actions make the show interesting.But keep the same energy for different people, whether you love them or not.

People really in here writing paragraphs defending an old guy on a tv show...

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People really in here writing paragraphs defending an old guy on a tv show...

Their King isn't on TV right now so they have to do something to pass the time

Anyways Pink Rose do you know when they start filming for reunion? The drama will either be lukewarm or steaming hot!

Anyways Pink Rose do you know when they start filming for reunion? The drama will either be lukewarm or steaming hot!

It'll be lukewarm the last good reunion IMO was Invasion 

That was truly a classic 

havnt been here in awhile any news on when the new season is gonna premiere?

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War of the Worlds 2 isn't on the shows tab on MTV's website anymore. That should mean we're getting a trailer soon.

War of the Worlds 2 isn't on the shows tab on MTV's website anymore. That should mean we're getting a trailer soon.

I wouldn't get my hopes up. Lol

I am over this season already lol

Tbh at first I didnt mind Bananas winning . But now after time has passed I have a feeling he is going to be insufferable after this air and at the reunion.

It'll be lukewarm the last good reunion IMO was Invasion 

That was truly a classic 

the first part of final reckoning was really good. Nothing is ever going to top hunter telling us he's had sex with Nelson and Cory lmaoooo

Does it matter though, not trying to be rude but  there are other people on the cast that I'm looking forward to see. Personally I'm not watching this season with a negative vibe even if johnny wins in the end. (Jenny wins as well!) 

I am over this season already lol

Tbh at first I didnt mind Bananas winning . But now after time has passed I have a feeling he is going to be insufferable after this air and at the reunion.

Good thing I won't be watching 

I am over this season already lol

Tbh at first I didnt mind Bananas winning . But now after time has passed I have a feeling he is going to be insufferable after this air and at the reunion.

You & I both lol, makes no sense to make the premiere date so far in advance when the entire season was spoiled 3 months ago. 

Does it matter though, not trying to be rude but  there are other people on the cast that I'm looking forward to see. Personally I'm not watching this season with a negative vibe even if johnny wins in the end. (Jenny wins as well!) 

Does it matter though, not trying to be rude but  there are other people on the cast that I'm looking forward to see. Personally I'm not watching this season with a negative vibe even if johnny wins in the end. (Jenny wins as well!) 

Jenny is a nonfactor a wallpaper.

Good that she won but it doesnt get me hype or interested. Actually the top 2 girls was the most predictable outcome in a while.

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