Lol @ Rivals 3 EVER being considered a legit win lol we can go down the list. If that season didn't show you what was up then I don't know what to tell you but I'm not in the business of convincing people to seeing past illusions yet anyway lmao y'all can have it.
Is it really true that they gave jordan "Pole Wrestle" lol
against fessy double lol
Now jordan may not be my favorite but even I feel a little sad for him
People here were really acting like it wasn't a huge disadvantage for Jordan tho lol
lol they were bugging with that one. I wish they changed it back to where a person spins a wheel or picks a card to reveal the elimination round. Bc as we know production can rig it to favor one person
Is it really true that they gave jordan "Pole Wrestle" lol
against fessy double lol
Now jordan may not be my favorite but even I feel a little sad for him
People here were really acting like it wasn't a huge disadvantage for Jordan tho lol
lol they were bugging with that one. I wish they changed it back to where a person spins a wheel or picks a card to reveal the elimination round. Bc as we know production can rig it to favor one person
They rig it with pick a card too. Nehemaih has said that when he was about to face Evan they changed all the cards to only games they figured Evan would win
I wonder if the old challengers feel a way, I remember those team challenges where the winners split the prize and got like 20-30k each lol. Now they giving out 500k and a million like its candy lol.
The Sports Argument makes absolutely no sense. So if Tom Brady won 7 times in 20 seasons, being really good in some seasons but also having a lot of seasons where he was carried, he's better than someone who won 3 times in only 4 or 5 seasons and pretty much dominated their whole careers?(Landon or Jordan).Calling Bananas the best male challenger of all time is so insulting and ridiculous, the guy went 6 seasons without making a final with an elimination record of 0-7 in those 6 seasons(with 1 face off win). Jordan was 7-1 and is 7-2 now and a guy who had 7 straight losses is somehow better? He was very fortunate that several far surperior players such as Joss, Theo, Paulie, Turbo & Zach all weren't there to beat him again like 4 of them already have. As far as the GOAT discussion goes, I don't think Bananas is even top 10, might squeeze into the top 20
Let's be real, Bananas winning this season had likely nothing to do with his actual abilities, production has shown before that they can change eliminations & finals to favour whoever they want. I think it's going to be pretty obvious when this season airs that the only reason he won is because it was decided he was going to win beforehand. Especially if this final season bs of his is really true
7 wins in 20 seasons isn't that impressive tho. Sure it's a record but still he's lost 13 times which is one of the most losses in show history as well.
At the same time, if someone were to do that many seasons, they are bound to have the most amount of losses.. just look at people who have done just half of the seasons Johnny has and still have 0-1 wins.. they aren't on pace to catch him any time soon. CT, Wes, Cara, Leroy, they have done 10+ seasons by now and they don't even have half the number of wins.
Bananas is by far the luckiest guy when it comes to wins though, plus the help from production too. Every single win can be discredited in some way. Then there's people on the other side who have terrible "luck" and should probably have more wins than they do.
Island: Would have been gone in episode 2 if Abram didn't beg to be voted out, and he still barely made it through
Ruins: Team was way too stacked, plus he would have had to face (and most likely lost to) Brad if he didn't DQ since he was DEK's *****
Rivals: I mean he finished the final over half an hour slower than Kenny & Wes overall, he straight up didn't win this one. Plus Adam threw the elimination and still only lost by seconds
Exes: Mark threw the elimination, but nice job beating CT in the final
FA: Suspiciously given the wall climbing elimination against Jordan when that wasn't what the rotation should have been. Obviously that's Jordan's fault there too
Rivals 3: Literally cheated by using pills to stay up during the night portion which gave him more points. Plus the joke of competition that season
You're wrong about the island, Abe went in to that elimination because he knew he needed to go home, he was working with John and Derrick that season and that's why the three of them went in, to help the alliance. If they don't know they have the votes beforehand, Johnny wouldnt have been on the block like that. These people have made lots of money doing this, they are not dumb individuals. If you want to show that he got lucky on the Island, you're going about it the wrong way.
And for the Free Agents bit, they DID move the wrecking wall elimination a week, but you're ***uming their intent was to help Bananas. Jordan vs swift was supposed to be the wall but it was likely changed due to Jordan's hand, he then went in again the week after on his own knowing it was the wall. Production didn't give him that elimination, they went OUT OF THEIR WAY NOT to give him the wall, he gave it to himself.
You people are SO quick to take away from the accomplishments of those you dislike that it's honsestly pathetic, only to make up these fantasies twisting real facts so you can try to convince yourselves that Nelson should be a champ (or it's all a meme, I never really got a real answer to the Nelson/CT invasion 'controversy'). I don't even like John but I feel like I have to step in and debunk your bullshit list of 'facts' showing how lucky he had been because your post is a flat out misrepresentation of what actually happened.
Seriously? He was lucky because he 'probably' would have lost to Brad in some bizarre stick kicking competition that could be anyone's game? You're talking completely out of tour *** and it's clear to anyone with half a brain and a decent knowledge of the show's history.
And we're being delusional if we think that producers are playing by the rules, they probably don't even actually add up the times during the timed finals, just pick whoever they want. Final reckoning was proof of that, unless it's just a coincidence that the person who won was the ONLY person who told producers they would steal when asked ended up winning and beating her partner who seemed to be doing better
And we're being delusional if we think that producers are playing by the rules, they probably don't even actually add up the times during the timed finals, just pick whoever they want. Final reckoning was proof of that, unless it's just a coincidence that the person who won was the ONLY person who told producers they would steal when asked ended up winning and beating her partner who seemed to be doing better
Oh there's no probably to it, that's exactly what they do.
Notice how these Johnny stans be quick to take away Ashley's two wins in a heartbeat but turn around & play that "YoU gUys JUsT DoN't LiKe JoHnnY" whining game like they claim everybody else is doing.
The gag is its likely they probably did b/c Ashley is willing to play production's game for good TV just like Johnny is; people who REALLY have sense can see that & have no problem admitting that.
The sports argument has no bearing on the challenge, a reality show competition. He’s not facing the same ppl every year or the same challenges, he doesn’t get bad teammates to pull him down. I already got into it more than necessary lol
Smh just your opinion & not a fact. So every team in professional sports are the same every year Dscott? There aren't no trades or free agents going to different teams every season to make teams better or worse?? That was a good one. People act like 7 wins isnt shit, but no one else on the challenge is doing it. Also the conspiracy theories about production helping him are getting old. If that was the case why wouldn't they help him every season or stop him from getting embarrassed in eliminations? I
Its just not a sport in any sense of the word, yes teams can change but why are you comparing team sports to an individual reality show. I said nothing about production helps him, he’s fine as a competitor. Quite decent, nice he was able to do this many seasons and I’m sure he’ll get an 8th win if the show continues and he does another 15.
And we're being delusional if we think that producers are playing by the rules, they probably don't even actually add up the times during the timed finals, just pick whoever they want. Final reckoning was proof of that, unless it's just a coincidence that the person who won was the ONLY person who told producers they would steal when asked ended up winning and beating her partner who seemed to be doing better
Oh there's no probably to it, that's exactly what they do.
Notice how these Johnny stans be quick to take away Ashley's two wins in a heartbeat but turn around & play that "YoU gUys JUsT DoN't LiKe JoHnnY" whining game like they claim everybody else is doing.
The gag is its likely they probably did b/c Ashley is willing to play production's game for good TV just like Johnny is; people who REALLY have sense can see that & have no problem admitting that.
you are generalizing off of one person contradicting themselves though
And we're being delusional if we think that producers are playing by the rules, they probably don't even actually add up the times during the timed finals, just pick whoever they want. Final reckoning was proof of that, unless it's just a coincidence that the person who won was the ONLY person who told producers they would steal when asked ended up winning and beating her partner who seemed to be doing better
Thing is though, it's not like Ashley was doing worse than Hunter. There were a couple points in the run where she finished ahead of him. The only I time I remember him beating her was with climbing down the helicopter and that's because he fell. Everything else was either just running where she was ahead or team events like eating where there was no "winner."
Is it really true that they gave jordan "Pole Wrestle" lol
against fessy double lol
Now jordan may not be my favorite but even I feel a little sad for him
Lol @ Rivals 3 EVER being considered a legit win lol we can go down the list. If that season didn't show you what was up then I don't know what to tell you but I'm not in the business of convincing people to seeing past illusions yet anyway lmao y'all can have it.
Bloodlines is the worst win in Challenge history
Bloodlines is the worst win in Challenge history
People here were really acting like it wasn't a huge disadvantage for Jordan tho lol
lol they were bugging with that one. I wish they changed it back to where a person spins a wheel or picks a card to reveal the elimination round. Bc as we know production can rig it to favor one person
They rig it with pick a card too. Nehemaih has said that when he was about to face Evan they changed all the cards to only games they figured Evan would win
Congralutions to Jenny.
Boo This Man to Bananas.
Cool Story Sis.
Do we know if Melissa and Big T got along PR ??
Do we know if Melissa and Big T got along PR ??
MELISSA FOLLOWED BIG T
lol
You're wrong about the island, Abe went in to that elimination because he knew he needed to go home, he was working with John and Derrick that season and that's why the three of them went in, to help the alliance. If they don't know they have the votes beforehand, Johnny wouldnt have been on the block like that. These people have made lots of money doing this, they are not dumb individuals. If you want to show that he got lucky on the Island, you're going about it the wrong way.
And for the Free Agents bit, they DID move the wrecking wall elimination a week, but you're ***uming their intent was to help Bananas. Jordan vs swift was supposed to be the wall but it was likely changed due to Jordan's hand, he then went in again the week after on his own knowing it was the wall. Production didn't give him that elimination, they went OUT OF THEIR WAY NOT to give him the wall, he gave it to himself.
You people are SO quick to take away from the accomplishments of those you dislike that it's honsestly pathetic, only to make up these fantasies twisting real facts so you can try to convince yourselves that Nelson should be a champ (or it's all a meme, I never really got a real answer to the Nelson/CT invasion 'controversy'). I don't even like John but I feel like I have to step in and debunk your bullshit list of 'facts' showing how lucky he had been because your post is a flat out misrepresentation of what actually happened.
Seriously? He was lucky because he 'probably' would have lost to Brad in some bizarre stick kicking competition that could be anyone's game? You're talking completely out of tour *** and it's clear to anyone with half a brain and a decent knowledge of the show's history.
/rant
Brad would kill Bananas in a stick kicking elimination
And we're being delusional if we think that producers are playing by the rules, they probably don't even actually add up the times during the timed finals, just pick whoever they want. Final reckoning was proof of that, unless it's just a coincidence that the person who won was the ONLY person who told producers they would steal when asked ended up winning and beating her partner who seemed to be doing better
I assume there were a lot of checkpoints and resting periods at the finals. If Bananas won a finale similar to WOTW I will be shocked.
Bananas will beat the guys he went against on this final in any type of final imo
I still stand that Fessy body is not ideal to win a final
Bananas probably had to eat 10lbs of Rodi like ibis did and thats it.
Oh there's no probably to it, that's exactly what they do.
Notice how these Johnny stans be quick to take away Ashley's two wins in a heartbeat but turn around & play that "YoU gUys JUsT DoN't LiKe JoHnnY" whining game like they claim everybody else is doing.
The gag is its likely they probably did b/c Ashley is willing to play production's game for good TV just like Johnny is; people who REALLY have sense can see that & have no problem admitting that.
Its just not a sport in any sense of the word, yes teams can change but why are you comparing team sports to an individual reality show. I said nothing about production helps him, he’s fine as a competitor. Quite decent, nice he was able to do this many seasons and I’m sure he’ll get an 8th win if the show continues and he does another 15.
you are generalizing off of one person contradicting themselves though
Thing is though, it's not like Ashley was doing worse than Hunter. There were a couple points in the run where she finished ahead of him. The only I time I remember him beating her was with climbing down the helicopter and that's because he fell. Everything else was either just running where she was ahead or team events like eating where there was no "winner."
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