The Challenge: Total Madness Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Some facts, this is the 4th season where no real world girls have made the final. After fresh meat dirty 30 and war of the worlds. The uk contestants have more wins than ayto contestants with 2 Rogan & Jenny. If we count international as a whole then we got 4 with turbo Rogan dee and jenny. 

PR, should we expect the BB20 rookies next season?

Some facts, this is the 4th season where no real world girls have made the final. After fresh meat dirty 30 and war of the worlds. The uk contestants have more wins than ayto contestants with 2 Rogan & Jenny. If we count international as a whole then we got 4 with turbo Rogan dee and jenny. 

Big Brother's gonna get a win before AYTO... 

 

Some facts, this is the 4th season where no real world girls have made the final. After fresh meat dirty 30 and war of the worlds. The uk contestants have more wins than ayto contestants with 2 Rogan & Jenny. If we count international as a whole then we got 4 with turbo Rogan dee and jenny. 

Big Brother's gonna get a win before AYTO... 

Hunter exists

PR, should we expect the BB20 rookies next season?

Bruh

Bananas still hasn't posted on social media

The sports argument has no bearing on the challenge, a reality show competition. He’s not facing the same ppl every year or the same challenges, he doesn’t get bad teammates to pull him down. I already got into it more than necessary lol

Smh just your opinion & not a fact. So every team in professional sports are the same every year Dscott? There aren't no trades or free agents going to different teams every season to make teams better or worse?? That was a good one. People act like 7 wins isnt shit, but no one else on the challenge is doing it.  Also the conspiracy theories about production helping him are getting old. If that was the case why wouldn't they help him every season or stop him from getting embarrassed in eliminations? I

7 wins in 20 seasons isn't that impressive tho. Sure it's a record but still he's lost 13 times which is one of the most losses in show history as well. 

I'm confused...how does the fact that what happens in sports means nothing when applying to a damn realiy show an opinion?

7 wins in 20 seasons isn't that impressive tho. Sure it's a record but still he's lost 13 times which is one of the most losses in show history as well. 

At the same time, if someone were to do that many seasons, they are bound to have the most amount of losses.. just look at people who have done just half of the seasons Johnny has and still have 0-1 wins.. they aren't on pace to catch him any time soon. CT, Wes, Cara, Leroy, they have done 10+ seasons by now and they don't even have half the number of wins. 

 

 

Some facts, this is the 4th season where no real world girls have made the final. After fresh meat dirty 30 and war of the worlds. The uk contestants have more wins than ayto contestants with 2 Rogan & Jenny. If we count international as a whole then we got 4 with turbo Rogan dee and jenny. 

Big Brother's gonna get a win before AYTO... 

Hunter exists

PUUUUUKE at that rumor of josh and nany hooking up

 

 

 

 

Do you know anything about sports? Geez do people really got to spell it for you. You don't have to win every season to be considered the best in that sport. Look up the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls & Warriors in the NBA. The Patriots, Cowboys, & Steelers in the NFL.  Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State in college football. UCLA, Indiana, Duke, North Carolina in college basketball. Know what they all have in common a tradition of winning & tons of championships. Now look at Bananas wins in the challenge & look at all the competitors wins in the challenge. Not to mention the fact that a lot of the competitors on the challenge can admit that Bananas is great or one of the best. But the poor *** fans on vevmo can't admit it is beyond me.

 

johnny FINALLY gets another win after flopping consistently & all of a sudden he's the new "kang".... some of y'all really shouldn't have opinions.

but i guess remain happy for now because he will NOT be winning again if he was smart he'd retire.

New King? He always was the king, you people just wouldn't except it. Let me know when someone else on the show gets 7 wins. Look how hard it is for the good competitors to even get 1 win.

he got his 7th win after flopping 7 times... please explain to me how he's the king...

The same way Tom Brady won 3 rings at the beginning of his career and won another 3 towards the later part of his career. The undisputed GOAT in the NFL.

You all need to take ur blinders off. Bananas is by no means my favorite (Darrell would be my favorite challenger), but you are really going to discredit 7...SEVEN wins?! Winning especially nowadays is very very hard to do.

Bananas - Greatest of all time - 7 wins

Landon/Darrell - Greatest pound for pound challengers

Jordan - Most complete challenger and best in the modern era

CT - Most physical/intimidating presence

Wes - Best political challenger

^^The common denominator between all of those challengers. Experience, Endurance, Physicality, Smarts, Puzzle Solving.. You will never see the Corys or Nelsons or Devins win a solo/pair challenge. The best hope for them to win would be a team challenge. Turbo/Theo and I'd throw in Joss are the only the select few who could win a solo or pair game.

I don't know anything about Fessy, but to think that Cory or Nelson could beat Bananas in a final is completely hilarious. Kyle had the best shot and I bet you he got hung up on checkpoints. Kyle himself >>>>> TYB and its not even close. These boys got popcorn muscles, and can win a few daily challenges here and there. What happens when they get to a final? Flop. You have to be built physically and mentally for that type of run. Those guys don't have it.

 

Nelson flop in a final? Lmao dont think so. He got screwed out of Invasion by production and would have dusted Bananas here. And plz figure out what popcorn muscles are. Cory n Nelson ain't it. Derrick H is popcorn muscles

cory is popcorn muscles, Nelson isn't 

 

Cory isnt popcorn muscles either sis 

 

 

 

 

Do you know anything about sports? Geez do people really got to spell it for you. You don't have to win every season to be considered the best in that sport. Look up the Lakers, Celtics, Bulls & Warriors in the NBA. The Patriots, Cowboys, & Steelers in the NFL.  Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State in college football. UCLA, Indiana, Duke, North Carolina in college basketball. Know what they all have in common a tradition of winning & tons of championships. Now look at Bananas wins in the challenge & look at all the competitors wins in the challenge. Not to mention the fact that a lot of the competitors on the challenge can admit that Bananas is great or one of the best. But the poor *** fans on vevmo can't admit it is beyond me.

 

johnny FINALLY gets another win after flopping consistently & all of a sudden he's the new "kang".... some of y'all really shouldn't have opinions.

but i guess remain happy for now because he will NOT be winning again if he was smart he'd retire.

New King? He always was the king, you people just wouldn't except it. Let me know when someone else on the show gets 7 wins. Look how hard it is for the good competitors to even get 1 win.

he got his 7th win after flopping 7 times... please explain to me how he's the king...

The same way Tom Brady won 3 rings at the beginning of his career and won another 3 towards the later part of his career. The undisputed GOAT in the NFL.

You all need to take ur blinders off. Bananas is by no means my favorite (Darrell would be my favorite challenger), but you are really going to discredit 7...SEVEN wins?! Winning especially nowadays is very very hard to do.

Bananas - Greatest of all time - 7 wins

Landon/Darrell - Greatest pound for pound challengers

Jordan - Most complete challenger and best in the modern era

CT - Most physical/intimidating presence

Wes - Best political challenger

^^The common denominator between all of those challengers. Experience, Endurance, Physicality, Smarts, Puzzle Solving.. You will never see the Corys or Nelsons or Devins win a solo/pair challenge. The best hope for them to win would be a team challenge. Turbo/Theo and I'd throw in Joss are the only the select few who could win a solo or pair game.

I don't know anything about Fessy, but to think that Cory or Nelson could beat Bananas in a final is completely hilarious. Kyle had the best shot and I bet you he got hung up on checkpoints. Kyle himself >>>>> TYB and its not even close. These boys got popcorn muscles, and can win a few daily challenges here and there. What happens when they get to a final? Flop. You have to be built physically and mentally for that type of run. Those guys don't have it.

 

Nelson flop in a final? Lmao dont think so. He got screwed out of Invasion by production and would have dusted Bananas here. And plz figure out what popcorn muscles are. Cory n Nelson ain't it. Derrick H is popcorn muscles

cory is popcorn muscles, Nelson isn't 

 

Cory isnt popcorn muscles either sis 

Y’all hate on Cory too much. He definitely does not have popcorn muscles, physically he can probably beat most of the guys but he’s not the smartest player and him not being smart is his biggest downfall every season. Even the whole TYB squad can dominate most of the guys physically but if they had more brains, they’ll be untouchable but they all literally just screw themselves over because they never think before they do. 

I'm mad I had to scroll that much just for a one sentence response lol.

Nvm, I read that wrong.

PR, should we expect the BB20 rookies next season?

JC so he can sent CT home in Hall Brawl.

Hmm I'm definitely noticing a divide.

I can see production being hesitant on Fessy the other three probably will get calls in the future sadly even Kaycee the couch 

If winning this season is what it took to finally get that ******* off of this show then yay, so glad he won, now **** off forever <3

PUUUUUKE at that rumor of josh and nany hooking up

WTF

bananas 7 wins is nice but I think jordan's is more impressive with 3/6 wins. Not to mention his body is pretty scrawny and only has 1 hand.

If winning this season is what it took to finally get that ******* off of this show then yay, so glad he won, now **** off forever <3

Watch and see we're gonna see his name for 36

Poor Chris Jr. After spending all of his money from 34 on coke and going home early this season, CT has no ice cream money left. Hate to see it.

I'm just thankful we got a male AND a female winner. Nothing would be more lackluster than Bananas being the sole winner. At least Jenny is a new winner.

 

7 wins in 20 seasons isn't that impressive tho. Sure it's a record but still he's lost 13 times which is one of the most losses in show history as well. 

At the same time, if someone were to do that many seasons, they are bound to have the most amount of losses.. just look at people who have done just half of the seasons Johnny has and still have 0-1 wins.. they aren't on pace to catch him any time soon. CT, Wes, Cara, Leroy, they have done 10+ seasons by now and they don't even have half the number of wins. 

Bananas is by far the luckiest guy when it comes to wins though, plus the help from production too. Every single win can be discredited in some way. Then there's people on the other side who have terrible "luck" and should probably have more wins than they do.

Island: Would have been gone in episode 2 if Abram didn't beg to be voted out, and he still barely made it through

Ruins: Team was way too stacked, plus he would have had to face (and most likely lost to) Brad if he didn't DQ since he was DEK's *****

Rivals: I mean he finished the final over half an hour slower than Kenny & Wes overall, he straight up didn't win this one. Plus Adam threw the elimination and still only lost by seconds

Exes: Mark threw the elimination, but nice job beating CT in the final

FA: Suspiciously given the wall climbing elimination against Jordan when that wasn't what the rotation should have been. Obviously that's Jordan's fault there too

Rivals 3: Literally cheated by using pills to stay up during the night portion which gave him more points. Plus the joke of competition that season

The Sith Lord won my head hurts.

King Johnny Bananas. 7 wins are 7 wins. plain & simple. go ahead and tell mtv to get ur flop *** faves a help because that's tragic all this talk about the legend discussing his wins. if u don't like the guy u should bring on his elimination record or sum but not his wins because they are legit

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