The Challenge: Total Madness Discussion (SPOILERS)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nelson can take out any guy on this cast in a physical elimination and i'm not even trolling

I have faith in him and he will probably rack up more elimination wins this season

agrre dirty 30 he flung hunter who was 100% on steroids and nelson was just lean at that time 

also has the best endurance and the best runner, i follow him on ig and hes been taking swimming since fr ended

the only think im cared about is that production will throw a puzzle his way when they realize hes the best guy there and they want their golden boys to win 

Yup that's the problem. You can swim, you can run, you can lift. Nothing you can do about stone cold stupidity. Cory and Joss have the exact same problem. 

When has Joss competed in a puzzle? He seems average smarts-wise to me.

None of his decisions are thought through and none are his own. He is so easily tricked or manipulated and he's also a sissy when it comes to backing up decisions he's made, suggesting mental weakness. 

**** ***

Being a follower =/= mental strength or puzzle solving ability. One is simply a social personality trait. Has nothing to do with actual smarts.

I don't agree. I see a direct correlation between being easily manipulated and intelligence. Look at Evelyn and Jordan, who are arguably the most intelligent challengers in recent memory. Do they EVER let anyone manipulate them?

I don't think Joss was manipulated. I think they knew that it was all a numbers game on WOTW2, and it is. You're viewing it as he made a dumb decision for team UK, and that's true but he made a smart decision for his own safety.

Anyway, we haven't even seen him do a puzzle or a mental challenge so just assuming he's bottom tier is stupidity in itself. 

 

 

 

 

 

pplease dont hype rogan hes a minion as well hes been up and under jordan and bananas *** since last season ended. This is really gonna be nelson/cory vs a mob 

you're obsessed sis get some help ****

this is literally my FIRST post about that scrub rogan??????? ****

Yea there's nothing so far to suggest Rogan is anything better than mediocre. He has not stood out in any challenges and we've never seen him in elimination. He does come off pretty entitled though for someone who's accomplished exactly nothing in the game. We will see how he does in the final. 

**** again

He won a final on his second Challenge. Regardless of how he got there (some would even praise his politics, hmmm) he got there and he won. That's literally the whole point of the game.

cts fat *** just won too. tells me ALL i need to lnow abut that final 

That IS an excellent point. 

 

 

 

 

 

pplease dont hype rogan hes a minion as well hes been up and under jordan and bananas *** since last season ended. This is really gonna be nelson/cory vs a mob 

you're obsessed sis get some help ****

this is literally my FIRST post about that scrub rogan??????? ****

Yea there's nothing so far to suggest Rogan is anything better than mediocre. He has not stood out in any challenges and we've never seen him in elimination. He does come off pretty entitled though for someone who's accomplished exactly nothing in the game. We will see how he does in the final. 

**** again

He won a final on his second Challenge. Regardless of how he got there (some would even praise his politics, hmmm) he got there and he won. That's literally the whole point of the game.

Politics? He was set up from the moment he walked in the house! If anything, Paulie handed him his first victory. 

Um, he was in danger the first few weeks and got rid of numbers against him until he was in a position of complete safety. He played the game and he won.

 

 

 

 

 

pplease dont hype rogan hes a minion as well hes been up and under jordan and bananas *** since last season ended. This is really gonna be nelson/cory vs a mob 

you're obsessed sis get some help ****

this is literally my FIRST post about that scrub rogan??????? ****

Yea there's nothing so far to suggest Rogan is anything better than mediocre. He has not stood out in any challenges and we've never seen him in elimination. He does come off pretty entitled though for someone who's accomplished exactly nothing in the game. We will see how he does in the final. 

**** again

He won a final on his second Challenge. Regardless of how he got there (some would even praise his politics, hmmm) he got there and he won. That's literally the whole point of the game.

cts fat *** just won too. tells me ALL i need to lnow abut that final 

We'll have to see. Apparently Paulie and Zach burned out and died in the final so couldn't have been too easy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nelson can take out any guy on this cast in a physical elimination and i'm not even trolling

I have faith in him and he will probably rack up more elimination wins this season

agrre dirty 30 he flung hunter who was 100% on steroids and nelson was just lean at that time 

also has the best endurance and the best runner, i follow him on ig and hes been taking swimming since fr ended

the only think im cared about is that production will throw a puzzle his way when they realize hes the best guy there and they want their golden boys to win 

Yup that's the problem. You can swim, you can run, you can lift. Nothing you can do about stone cold stupidity. Cory and Joss have the exact same problem. 

When has Joss competed in a puzzle? He seems average smarts-wise to me.

None of his decisions are thought through and none are his own. He is so easily tricked or manipulated and he's also a sissy when it comes to backing up decisions he's made, suggesting mental weakness. 

**** ***

Being a follower =/= mental strength or puzzle solving ability. One is simply a social personality trait. Has nothing to do with actual smarts.

I don't agree. I see a direct correlation between being easily manipulated and intelligence. Look at Evelyn and Jordan, who are arguably the most intelligent challengers in recent memory. Do they EVER let anyone manipulate them?

I don't think Joss was manipulated. I think they knew that it was all a numbers game on WOTW2, and it is. You're viewing it as he made a dumb decision for team UK, and that's true but he made a smart decision for his own safety.

Anyway, we haven't even seen him do a puzzle or a mental challenge so just assuming he's bottom tier is stupidity in itself. 

BUT we DID see him lose a million bucks compliments of Paulie after being completely manipulated by him......And there's no way he didn't know what Paulie's record was on BB as far as being an honest guy. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nelson can take out any guy on this cast in a physical elimination and i'm not even trolling

I have faith in him and he will probably rack up more elimination wins this season

agrre dirty 30 he flung hunter who was 100% on steroids and nelson was just lean at that time 

also has the best endurance and the best runner, i follow him on ig and hes been taking swimming since fr ended

the only think im cared about is that production will throw a puzzle his way when they realize hes the best guy there and they want their golden boys to win 

Yup that's the problem. You can swim, you can run, you can lift. Nothing you can do about stone cold stupidity. Cory and Joss have the exact same problem. 

When has Joss competed in a puzzle? He seems average smarts-wise to me.

None of his decisions are thought through and none are his own. He is so easily tricked or manipulated and he's also a sissy when it comes to backing up decisions he's made, suggesting mental weakness. 

**** ***

Being a follower =/= mental strength or puzzle solving ability. One is simply a social personality trait. Has nothing to do with actual smarts.

I don't agree. I see a direct correlation between being easily manipulated and intelligence. Look at Evelyn and Jordan, who are arguably the most intelligent challengers in recent memory. Do they EVER let anyone manipulate them?

I don't think Joss was manipulated. I think they knew that it was all a numbers game on WOTW2, and it is. You're viewing it as he made a dumb decision for team UK, and that's true but he made a smart decision for his own safety.

Anyway, we haven't even seen him do a puzzle or a mental challenge so just assuming he's bottom tier is stupidity in itself. 

BUT we DID see him lose a million bucks compliments of Paulie after being completely manipulated by him......And there's no way he didn't know what Paulie's record was on BB as far as being an honest guy. 

Again, that has nothing to do with actual book smarts. Was it naive to be so trusting? Yes. But doesn't mean the guy can't do math or solve a puzzle. Give it a rest lol trying to fabricate abilities and lack there of out of thin air.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nelson can take out any guy on this cast in a physical elimination and i'm not even trolling

I have faith in him and he will probably rack up more elimination wins this season

agrre dirty 30 he flung hunter who was 100% on steroids and nelson was just lean at that time 

also has the best endurance and the best runner, i follow him on ig and hes been taking swimming since fr ended

the only think im cared about is that production will throw a puzzle his way when they realize hes the best guy there and they want their golden boys to win 

Yup that's the problem. You can swim, you can run, you can lift. Nothing you can do about stone cold stupidity. Cory and Joss have the exact same problem. 

When has Joss competed in a puzzle? He seems average smarts-wise to me.

None of his decisions are thought through and none are his own. He is so easily tricked or manipulated and he's also a sissy when it comes to backing up decisions he's made, suggesting mental weakness. 

**** ***

Being a follower =/= mental strength or puzzle solving ability. One is simply a social personality trait. Has nothing to do with actual smarts.

I don't agree. I see a direct correlation between being easily manipulated and intelligence. Look at Evelyn and Jordan, who are arguably the most intelligent challengers in recent memory. Do they EVER let anyone manipulate them?

Lol Bradley Evelyn let JEK make a whole fool out of her & then never learned her lesson with them. Her being a good competitor saved her.

You thought.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nelson can take out any guy on this cast in a physical elimination and i'm not even trolling

I have faith in him and he will probably rack up more elimination wins this season

agrre dirty 30 he flung hunter who was 100% on steroids and nelson was just lean at that time 

also has the best endurance and the best runner, i follow him on ig and hes been taking swimming since fr ended

the only think im cared about is that production will throw a puzzle his way when they realize hes the best guy there and they want their golden boys to win 

Yup that's the problem. You can swim, you can run, you can lift. Nothing you can do about stone cold stupidity. Cory and Joss have the exact same problem. 

When has Joss competed in a puzzle? He seems average smarts-wise to me.

None of his decisions are thought through and none are his own. He is so easily tricked or manipulated and he's also a sissy when it comes to backing up decisions he's made, suggesting mental weakness. 

**** ***

Being a follower =/= mental strength or puzzle solving ability. One is simply a social personality trait. Has nothing to do with actual smarts.

I don't agree. I see a direct correlation between being easily manipulated and intelligence. Look at Evelyn and Jordan, who are arguably the most intelligent challengers in recent memory. Do they EVER let anyone manipulate them?

I don't think Joss was manipulated. I think they knew that it was all a numbers game on WOTW2, and it is. You're viewing it as he made a dumb decision for team UK, and that's true but he made a smart decision for his own safety.

Anyway, we haven't even seen him do a puzzle or a mental challenge so just assuming he's bottom tier is stupidity in itself. 

BUT we DID see him lose a million bucks compliments of Paulie after being completely manipulated by him......And there's no way he didn't know what Paulie's record was on BB as far as being an honest guy. 

Again, that has nothing to do with actual book smarts. Was it naive to be so trusting? Yes. But doesn't mean the guy can't do math or solve a puzzle. Give it a rest lol trying to fabricate abilities and lack there of out of thin air.

I am simply using the information that I DO have at hand to make an inference. For all we know, Joss got purged on a puzzle. Makes sense since Leroy and Kam didn't make it either and they're both known to not be the greatest at puzzles. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nelson can take out any guy on this cast in a physical elimination and i'm not even trolling

I have faith in him and he will probably rack up more elimination wins this season

agrre dirty 30 he flung hunter who was 100% on steroids and nelson was just lean at that time 

also has the best endurance and the best runner, i follow him on ig and hes been taking swimming since fr ended

the only think im cared about is that production will throw a puzzle his way when they realize hes the best guy there and they want their golden boys to win 

Yup that's the problem. You can swim, you can run, you can lift. Nothing you can do about stone cold stupidity. Cory and Joss have the exact same problem. 

When has Joss competed in a puzzle? He seems average smarts-wise to me.

None of his decisions are thought through and none are his own. He is so easily tricked or manipulated and he's also a sissy when it comes to backing up decisions he's made, suggesting mental weakness. 

**** ***

Being a follower =/= mental strength or puzzle solving ability. One is simply a social personality trait. Has nothing to do with actual smarts.

I don't agree. I see a direct correlation between being easily manipulated and intelligence. Look at Evelyn and Jordan, who are arguably the most intelligent challengers in recent memory. Do they EVER let anyone manipulate them?

Lol Bradley Evelyn let JEK make a whole fool out of her & then never learned her lesson with them. Her being a good competitor saved her.

You thought.

She learned her lesson. She tried with all her might to oust Kenny in FM2 but Kenny was just too **** good. 

Way too many quotes by the way. Let's start again from here. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nelson can take out any guy on this cast in a physical elimination and i'm not even trolling

I have faith in him and he will probably rack up more elimination wins this season

agrre dirty 30 he flung hunter who was 100% on steroids and nelson was just lean at that time 

also has the best endurance and the best runner, i follow him on ig and hes been taking swimming since fr ended

the only think im cared about is that production will throw a puzzle his way when they realize hes the best guy there and they want their golden boys to win 

Yup that's the problem. You can swim, you can run, you can lift. Nothing you can do about stone cold stupidity. Cory and Joss have the exact same problem. 

When has Joss competed in a puzzle? He seems average smarts-wise to me.

None of his decisions are thought through and none are his own. He is so easily tricked or manipulated and he's also a sissy when it comes to backing up decisions he's made, suggesting mental weakness. 

**** ***

Being a follower =/= mental strength or puzzle solving ability. One is simply a social personality trait. Has nothing to do with actual smarts.

I don't agree. I see a direct correlation between being easily manipulated and intelligence. Look at Evelyn and Jordan, who are arguably the most intelligent challengers in recent memory. Do they EVER let anyone manipulate them?

I don't think Joss was manipulated. I think they knew that it was all a numbers game on WOTW2, and it is. You're viewing it as he made a dumb decision for team UK, and that's true but he made a smart decision for his own safety.

Anyway, we haven't even seen him do a puzzle or a mental challenge so just ***uming he's bottom tier is stupidity in itself. 

BUT we DID see him lose a million bucks compliments of Paulie after being completely manipulated by him......And there's no way he didn't know what Paulie's record was on BB as far as being an honest guy. 

Again, that has nothing to do with actual book smarts. Was it naive to be so trusting? Yes. But doesn't mean the guy can't do math or solve a puzzle. Give it a rest lol trying to fabricate abilities and lack there of out of thin air.

I am simply using the information that I DO have at hand to make an inference. For all we know, Joss got purged on a puzzle. Makes sense since Leroy and Kam didn't make it either and they're both known to not be the greatest at puzzles. 

***uming makes an *** out of you because you look stupid with all these ***umptions

Joss got purged in a paired challenge with Kayleigh on a swimming mission. Joss is a great swimmer. What can we then ***ume Jack? I know you might be able to get this one!

Like I said, my opinion of Joss' intelligence and potential puzzle abilities is based on the evidence at hand. It's not assuming, it's inferring. Man is a physical specimen and a remarkable athlete, but my guess based on watching him in 3 seasons is that he's not all that bright. 

Whew child can y’all move on clearly the conversation won’t go anywhere 

Like I said, my opinion of Joss' intelligence and potential puzzle abilities is based on the evidence at hand. It's not assuming, it's inferring. Man is a physical specimen and a remarkable athlete, but my guess based on watching him in 3 seasons is that he's not all that bright. 

No, my dear, you are ASSUMING. You have no evidence about his actual intellectual ability beyond his social skills, being overly trusting, and political game. Inferring means you have some sort of evidence of his actual INTELLECTUAL ability, and you do not. You got it right in the second sentence though, you are simply guessing, which holds no substantial value in this case. Try again next time.

Whew child can y’all move on clearly the conversation won’t go anywhere 

Whew child can y’all move on clearly the conversation won’t go anywhere 

You're right. It's like debating with a brick wall. 

 

 

Working with John is whatever I don't care. Once he's flung they'll spread their wings 

He has a lot of numbers this season working with him too long is dangerous

that's up to them. This isn't a team challenge if they're naive enough to stay attached to a huge alliance of vets the WHOLE time then they got caught slipping. They could still seize their opportunity when the time arises 

Most seasons aren’t like last season where # alone can get an alliance far, let’s hope it’s more sophisticated then last seasons garbage rules and people have to at least compete.

Yea I hated the format of WOTW2. It allowed way too much uselessness like Kayleigh to float through to the end. 

Yea I hated the format of WOTW2. It allowed way too much uselessness like Kayleigh to float through to the end. 

People just didn't use the format correctly imo. Georgia and Theo should've switched sides for example.

Look I don't even really care for Rogan but the idea that you need to go into eliminations is just dumb. There's no real incentive to win eliminations just to get bragging rights. You do whatever you can to avoid them

Look I don't even really care for Rogan but the idea that you need to go into eliminations is just dumb. There's no real incentive to win eliminations just to get bragging rights. You do whatever you can to avoid them

Look I don't even really care for Rogan but the idea that you need to go into eliminations is just dumb. There's no real incentive to win eliminations just to get bragging rights. You do whatever you can to avoid them

Exactly. He played the game right, period. Not even some top tier and long time castmembers like Cara, Johnny, CT, Emily, Laurel, etc. can say they won on their second try.

Would love Jenna Tea.

 

The idea that you need to go into eliminations is just dumb. There's no real incentive to win eliminations just to get bragging rights. You do whatever you can to avoid them

Would love Jenna Tea.

shes the doormat the competitors use to get the mud off their shoes. 

swayleigh out here politicking 

 

Would love Jenna Tea.

shes the doormat the competitors use to get the mud off their shoes. 

Well if the living conditions are true they might not even have a doormat 

Would love Jenna Tea.

Shes breathing 

That's why I want another free agents. Anyone can go in at any time. Numbers can help you send in who you want, but you might be the one facing them yourselves