The Challenge: Total Madness (Non-Spoilers Discussion Thread)

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how is that her best bet when she actually has a life and career outside of this show and going to school? If I'm on a bunch of seasons of this show I want more money period. Not getting money they deserve is what causes a bunch of yalls vet faves to say no.

imagine insinuating MTV being cheap and preying on desperate reality has beens who don't know any better is somehow the right option 

I do not get the people coming at Kam for wanting more money. It's standard practice to get a raise at work when you've been doing a job for a while. 

 

The reason why they won't pay Cara more is essentially because the fans could careless if she was on or not. She's not the face of the show like she may think she is. And ultimately she's done it all to herself. I used to like Cara until she started becoming entitled 

I disagree! In my opinion she has clearly become the face of this show at this point.

If that were the case, she'd be getting Bananas type money IMO. Maybe she is, but i don't see it. I think she was on her way to becoming the face, but Paulie entered the equation. In that i mean, she's done a complete 180 with how she acts when they started hanging out.

 

The reason why they won't pay Cara more is essentially because the fans could careless if she was on or not. She's not the face of the show like she may think she is. And ultimately she's done it all to herself. I used to like Cara until she started becoming entitled 

Cara is annoying but you're delusional if you don't think she's the female face of the show. 

I still think Bananas is the face of the show. If MTV wanted her to be the face they'd agree to pay her more money. I just think they realized that majority fans would rather do without her. 

Cara is essentially the true definition of a loser. She has no life goals. They could pay her a dollar and she would come on the challenge.

There are things that I think are pathetic about Cara but making a career out of reality TV is not one of them. Is it annoying to see her and Bananas on every season? Duh. Am I judging them for making their money however they can? No. It's what she's choosen to be her job so of course she's going to do it a lot. It's always been a weird stance to me. 

I'd be totally down for people I do like (like Marie, Kaliah, etc) making this there career in the same way. More power to 'em. 

I still think Bananas is the face of the show. If MTV wanted her to be the face they'd agree to pay her more money. I just think they realized that majority fans would rather do without her. 

Did you miss the "female" part of my comment? Obvs Bananas is still the male version but there's always been a female they highlight too, they just have rotated more. It's not always the best woman - it's often the one that has been around the longest. 

And they wouldn't constantly and literally use her face for marketing, including like 3 times in Times Square, if they didn't consider her the female face of the show. She and Bananas were the two facing off in the Vendetta marketing, for example. 

Cara is clearly the star of this show. For the past 5 seasons she's been apart of the main storyline. Plus these girls understand that if you beef with Cara that equals airtime and a callback next season. 

Cara is clearly the star of this show. For the past 5 seasons she's been apart of the main storyline. Plus these girls understand that if you beef with Cara that equals airtime and a callback next season. 

Who are "these girls"? She seems to have more friends than enemies this season..

Cara is clearly the star of this show. For the past 5 seasons she's been apart of the main storyline. Plus these girls understand that if you beef with Cara that equals airtime and a callback next season. 

I don't think anyone needs to pretend to beef with Cara for airtime - there are plenty of people who just dislike her. 

How is Cara not making as much as Bananas even a valid argument when women don't even get equal pay in the real world? Bananas will always be paid more because he has a *****, a small invisible one so I've heard, but a ***** nonetheless.

 

 

The reason why they won't pay Cara more is essentially because the fans could careless if she was on or not. She's not the face of the show like she may think she is. And ultimately she's done it all to herself. I used to like Cara until she started becoming entitled 

I disagree! In my opinion she has clearly become the face of this show at this point.

If that were the case, she'd be getting Bananas type money IMO. Maybe she is, but i don't see it. I think she was on her way to becoming the face, but Paulie entered the equation. In that i mean, she's done a complete 180 with how she acts when they started hanging out.

Any chance any of the people from The Circle could get asked since its randomlly got popular in the US? It finishes on Friday so they’d have time to do it. I seen Brooke on twitter said she would do it

I didn't know mtvs accountants posted on vevmo cause some of y'all real sure caras not making bank. 

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Why do people have such a big problem with people treating the challenge like a job. For Bananas and Cara it basically is and it should be because without them the show is a bit meh.

Everyone here hates Bananas and Cara and want them to go away

 

how is that her best bet when she actually has a life and career outside of this show and going to school? If I'm on a bunch of seasons of this show I want more money period. Not getting money they deserve is what causes a bunch of yalls vet faves to say no.

imagine insinuating MTV being cheap and preying on desperate reality has beens who don't know any better is somehow the right option 

I do not get the people coming at Kam for wanting more money. It's standard practice to get a raise at work when you've been doing a job for a while. 

we all know why 

Any chance any of the people from The Circle could get asked since its randomlly got popular in the US? It finishes on Friday so they’d have time to do it. I seen Brooke on twitter said she would do it

If the first boot from The Bachelor Canada can be chosen then anyone can be chosen. Dan from S1 would be cool

 

 

The reason why they won't pay Cara more is essentially because the fans could careless if she was on or not. She's not the face of the show like she may think she is. And ultimately she's done it all to herself. I used to like Cara until she started becoming entitled 

I disagree! In my opinion she has clearly become the face of this show at this point.

If that were the case, she'd be getting Bananas type money IMO. Maybe she is, but i don't see it. I think she was on her way to becoming the face, but Paulie entered the equation. In that i mean, she's done a complete 180 with how she acts when they started hanging out.

She makes a good amount of money for showing up. Maybe not the same as Bananas but still good money for 1-7 weeks.

 

 

The reason why they won't pay Cara more is essentially because the fans could careless if she was on or not. She's not the face of the show like she may think she is. And ultimately she's done it all to herself. I used to like Cara until she started becoming entitled 

I disagree! In my opinion she has clearly become the face of this show at this point.

If that were the case, she'd be getting Bananas type money IMO. Maybe she is, but i don't see it. I think she was on her way to becoming the face, but Paulie entered the equation. In that i mean, she's done a complete 180 with how she acts when they started hanging out.

She makes a good amount of money for showing up. Maybe not the same as Bananas but still good money for 1-7 weeks.

Do you know what rookies are getting paid more than vets that has some vets a little salty..?

 

 

The reason why they won't pay Cara more is essentially because the fans could careless if she was on or not. She's not the face of the show like she may think she is. And ultimately she's done it all to herself. I used to like Cara until she started becoming entitled 

Cara is annoying but you're delusional if you don't think she's the female face of the show. 

Cara is essentially the true definition of a loser. She has no life goals. They could pay her a dollar and she would come on the challenge.

Mhmm you have Jenna as your profile pic and she shows up for less than cara

 

 

The reason why they won't pay Cara more is essentially because the fans could careless if she was on or not. She's not the face of the show like she may think she is. And ultimately she's done it all to herself. I used to like Cara until she started becoming entitled 

I disagree! In my opinion she has clearly become the face of this show at this point.

If that were the case, she'd be getting Bananas type money IMO. Maybe she is, but i don't see it. I think she was on her way to becoming the face, but Paulie entered the equation. In that i mean, she's done a complete 180 with how she acts when they started hanging out.

She makes a good amount of money for showing up. Maybe not the same as Bananas but still good money for 1-7 weeks.

Do you know what rookies are getting paid more than vets that has some vets a little salty..?

The UK ones with a "brand" in reality tv.

There should be no reason nany is making more money then Cara if that’s true 

 

 

The reason why they won't pay Cara more is essentially because the fans could careless if she was on or not. She's not the face of the show like she may think she is. And ultimately she's done it all to herself. I used to like Cara until she started becoming entitled 

I disagree! In my opinion she has clearly become the face of this show at this point.

If that were the case, she'd be getting Bananas type money IMO. Maybe she is, but i don't see it. I think she was on her way to becoming the face, but Paulie entered the equation. In that i mean, she's done a complete 180 with how she acts when they started hanging out.

She makes a good amount of money for showing up. Maybe not the same as Bananas but still good money for 1-7 weeks.

Do you know what rookies are getting paid more than vets that has some vets a little salty..?

The UK ones with a "brand" in reality tv.

So are the other newbies from different networks getting the standard rookie fee? Like Paulie, Ninja, etc..

 

 

The reason why they won't pay Cara more is essentially because the fans could careless if she was on or not. She's not the face of the show like she may think she is. And ultimately she's done it all to herself. I used to like Cara until she started becoming entitled 

I disagree! In my opinion she has clearly become the face of this show at this point.

If that were the case, she'd be getting Bananas type money IMO. Maybe she is, but i don't see it. I think she was on her way to becoming the face, but Paulie entered the equation. In that i mean, she's done a complete 180 with how she acts when they started hanging out.

She makes a good amount of money for showing up. Maybe not the same as Bananas but still good money for 1-7 weeks.

Do you know what rookies are getting paid more than vets that has some vets a little salty..?

The UK ones with a "brand" in reality tv.

So are the other newbies from different networks getting the standard rookie fee? Like Paulie, Ninja, etc..

Some of them made more than what ayto and Real world rookies used to get. But not crazy amounts like somewhat like bear and what they are offering to actual popular love island cast.

Cara is not the face of the challenge lol that's clealy Bananas & CT

Who tf cares who the "face of the show" is? What's even the criteria for this? If it's based on who has the most airtime/confessionals then Goergia is the face of the show currently lol 

Who tf cares who the "face of the show" is? What's even the criteria for this? If it's based on who has the most airtime/confessionals then Goergia is the face of the show currently lol 

I just wanna know the format

 

 

The reason why they won't pay Cara more is essentially because the fans could careless if she was on or not. She's not the face of the show like she may think she is. And ultimately she's done it all to herself. I used to like Cara until she started becoming entitled 

I disagree! In my opinion she has clearly become the face of this show at this point.

If that were the case, she'd be getting Bananas type money IMO. Maybe she is, but i don't see it. I think she was on her way to becoming the face, but Paulie entered the equation. In that i mean, she's done a complete 180 with how she acts when they started hanging out.

She makes a good amount of money for showing up. Maybe not the same as Bananas but still good money for 1-7 weeks.

Do you know what rookies are getting paid more than vets that has some vets a little salty..?

The UK ones with a "brand" in reality tv.

So are the other newbies from different networks getting the standard rookie fee? Like Paulie, Ninja, etc..

Some of them made more than what ayto and Real world rookies used to get. But not crazy amounts like somewhat like bear and what they are offering to actual popular love island cast.

If you had to guess who the highest paid US newbie is..? Or do you think it's not much of a difference..

I just wanna know the format

If we get new winners this season, which it's very possible, I just want them to do a Ruins type format next.. we have enough good non winners that it won't be a lopsided game...

- I am hearing mix stuff about Paulie and Cara. Allegadly something happenned last week with Paulie.

- With What I heard Cory is getting a redemption storyline if he doesnt **** it up by acting stupid just based on certain stuff that he has going on.

 

I'm here for Production sending Cory all of the keys to the puzzles so he can study and practice before the challenge. 

- I am hearing mix stuff about Paulie and Cara. Allegadly something happenned last week with Paulie.

- With What I heard Cory is getting a redemption storyline if he doesnt **** it up by acting stupid just based on certain stuff that he has going on.

 

 

Possibly the one to fail the test?

Also, i think we can assume Cory can't go a season without acting stupid.

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