The Challenge: War of the Worlds II Discussion (SPOILERS) - Part 2

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Pretty sure there aren’t cast pics this season, probably the ones similar to War of Worlds. 

Theyre getting so cheap

Not with the prize money though. 

Can someone break down the scoop on the final? Was it hard like some were saying? People were hurt? It's not on the spoilers page.

Can someone break down the scoop on the final? Was it hard like some were saying? People were hurt? It's not on the spoilers page.

Paulie was cramping like crazy and gassing out. Cara needed crutches afterwards and Zach had to go to the hospital. Seems like only Ninja on team USA did not struggle.

LOL Bananas is the bottom ***** and worst competitor of his own alliance. Evan, Kenny and Derrick are all better competitors than him. They just brought john along for the ride as a number. He is the fourth wheel.

Except for the fact that Kenny & Evan never were in the modern challenge finals. So who knows how they would have done. The one season they were on Rivals 1 Evan was horrible & in worst shape than Tyrie smh. Kenny sucked also on all the dailies. He did kill that final, but Bananas came out on top. No matter what you all say Bananas still has the most challenge wins, so you should respect that. Just like Tom Brady,  Bananas will never be close to being the best athlete.. But it doesn't matter when you keep winning. The challenge isn't just about being the best athlete.

 

LOL Bananas is the bottom ***** and worst competitor of his own alliance. Evan, Kenny and Derrick are all better competitors than him. They just brought john along for the ride as a number. He is the fourth wheel.

Except for the fact that Kenny & Evan never were in the modern challenge finals. So who knows how they would have done. The one season they were on Rivals 1 Evan was horrible & in worst shape than Tyrie smh. Kenny sucked also on all the dailies. He did kill that final, but Bananas came out on top. No matter what you all say Bananas still has the most challenge wins, so you should respect that. Just like Tom Brady,  Bananas will never be close to being the best athlete.. But it doesn't matter when you keep winning. The challenge isn't just about being the best athlete.

Lol oh so you want to make the brady comparison? Ok well Brady has kept winning super bowls as he got older and well in to his late 30's early 40's. John has not even been to a final since rivals 3. He has gone out super early to boot on the past 2 seasons. The Tom Brady of the challenge he is not.

 

 

Pretty sure there aren’t cast pics this season, probably the ones similar to War of Worlds. 

Theyre getting so cheap

Not with the prize money though. 

I mean how hard is it to get someone to take photos of the cast. Even when they paid for them they still looked cheap.

 

Can someone break down the scoop on the final? Was it hard like some were saying? People were hurt? It's not on the spoilers page.

Paulie was cramping like crazy and gassing out. Cara needed crutches afterwards and Zach had to go to the hospital. Seems like only Ninja on team USA did not struggle.

Paulie ego is so great that he prob wanted to prove how fast he can be so set a ridic pace and then eventually gassed out, he would have been out of control with ego if he won.

 

LOL Bananas is the bottom ***** and worst competitor of his own alliance. Evan, Kenny and Derrick are all better competitors than him. They just brought john along for the ride as a number. He is the fourth wheel.

Except for the fact that Kenny & Evan never were in the modern challenge finals. So who knows how they would have done. The one season they were on Rivals 1 Evan was horrible & in worst shape than Tyrie smh. Kenny sucked also on all the dailies. He did kill that final, but Bananas came out on top. No matter what you all say Bananas still has the most challenge wins, so you should respect that. Just like Tom Brady,  Bananas will never be close to being the best athlete.. But it doesn't matter when you keep winning. The challenge isn't just about being the best athlete.

the only reason bananas won rivals 1 is because they reduced the INSANE lead wes & kenny had to like 90 seconds

 

 

LOL Bananas is the bottom ***** and worst competitor of his own alliance. Evan, Kenny and Derrick are all better competitors than him. They just brought john along for the ride as a number. He is the fourth wheel.

Except for the fact that Kenny & Evan never were in the modern challenge finals. So who knows how they would have done. The one season they were on Rivals 1 Evan was horrible & in worst shape than Tyrie smh. Kenny sucked also on all the dailies. He did kill that final, but Bananas came out on top. No matter what you all say Bananas still has the most challenge wins, so you should respect that. Just like Tom Brady,  Bananas will never be close to being the best athlete.. But it doesn't matter when you keep winning. The challenge isn't just about being the best athlete.

the only reason bananas won rivals 1 is because they reduced the INSANE lead wes & kenny had to like 90 seconds

I read somewhere that Wes lost to Bear in a verison of balls in. Any truth to this?

Gamer wrote that last month and yes its true

CT is looking kind of hot again

CT is looking kind of hot again

He def looks to at least be in Invasion shape at the worst.

 

 

LOL Bananas is the bottom ***** and worst competitor of his own alliance. Evan, Kenny and Derrick are all better competitors than him. They just brought john along for the ride as a number. He is the fourth wheel.

Except for the fact that Kenny & Evan never were in the modern challenge finals. So who knows how they would have done. The one season they were on Rivals 1 Evan was horrible & in worst shape than Tyrie smh. Kenny sucked also on all the dailies. He did kill that final, but Bananas came out on top. No matter what you all say Bananas still has the most challenge wins, so you should respect that. Just like Tom Brady,  Bananas will never be close to being the best athlete.. But it doesn't matter when you keep winning. The challenge isn't just about being the best athlete.

the only reason bananas won rivals 1 is because they reduced the INSANE lead wes & kenny had to like 90 seconds

Right how do you lose by an hour and still say you won nah John has been overrated forever btw Kenny killed two tough finals in FM2 and Rivals only Evan didn’t do a tough final not to mention he only came on Rivals to help Kenny he was never intending to be there long

yes Bananas has the most wins.. Everyone knows that. But his elimination challenges, he loses most of the time. He’s good at playing the political games, because he is afraid to go in, because he knows he’s going to lose. Most of his wins are because he is paired with a good competitor a good team, The Island, Rivals 1 and 2 he had Tyler and Sarah. Exes he had Camila, The Ruins, he went in against 2 girls lol. 

yes Bananas has the most wins.. Everyone knows that. But his elimination challenges, he loses most of the time. He’s good at playing the political games, because he is afraid to go in, because he knows he’s going to lose. Most of his wins are because he is paired with a good competitor a good team, The Island, Rivals 1 and 2 he had Tyler and Sarah. Exes he had Camila, The Ruins, he went in against 2 girls lol. 

Not really. Not without JEK and Derrick. He is overrated politically when Evan is not there to work the political game and Kenny for the social game.

Bananas having 6 wins is the worst argument to make for the guy, because he’s done so many. That’s why percentages are important when making comparisons because if he did 25 challenges and only won 6, that’s not that great. Are all of the wins discredited? No, but using that fact to call him the greatest is a joke. Winning or even losing and doing well are what show a good competitor. Jordan making four finals out of five and winning three, Landon only being eliminated once right before a final and winning three challenges, Emily S for never being eliminated and making all of her finals and winning one, those are more impressive stats than winning six challenges out of 15 because these people could come and do 15 challenges and have more than six wins. Even Cara Maria who’s done a ton of challenges still shows she’s better than Bananas because she makes final after final and barely sees eliminations.

They just have lives and Bananas doesn’t.

 

Jordan is the GOAT. He won one of the hardest finals ever (Exes II), won Dirty 30 despite having a huge target on his back, and now Bloody **** even though him and Tori were a target. He made the final on Rivals 2 as a rookie and only lost to Bananas on FA because he literally has 1 hand. I hate the guy but he deserves credit and is officially the GOAT

He's still not close to Landon or Darrell IMO but he does deserve a lot of credit.  He's definitely NOT "officially the GOAT"

How can he not be close to Landon or Darrell? Landon has 3/4 wins, Jordan has 3/5 and Darrell has 4/8. Jordan proved he can come back and still win, something Darrell & Landon haven't done. 

 

Let's get one thing straight.  Johnny Bananas is the GOAT.  You can not argue against that.  He has 6 titles. SIX.   3 of the titles was as a pair and 1 of the titles was the FIRST SOLO season ever.  Johnny is the GOAT whether you like it or not.  

The second tier consists of the following:  CT, Landon, Darrell, Jordan, and Derick K. (CT is the only one who can rival Bananas)

The third tier:  Wes, Abraham, Alton, Kenny, Mark Long, Evan

I think i nailed it for Men. 

Okay so Veronica >>> Ashley, Tori H. >>> Laurel, Emily

The # of wins mean nothing if you continue flopping like he has. Johnny isn't the GOAT. 

Banananas winning 6 of 19 seasons 31.58%.

Darrell winning 4 out of 8 seasons 50%.

Evelyn winning 3 out of 7 42.86%

Jordan winning 3 out of 5 60%.

Bananas being a goat with only winning 6 out of 19 appearances lol

I mentioned last week about now being the perfect time for a redemption theme with Rogan going from purged to champion & the many DQs recently. I made my own cast and could see it being very realistic! 

https://vevmo.com/comment/2621860#comment-2621860

If landon did a a comeback and he lost like darrel did....would he still  considered as GOAT?

Losing a challenge doesn't mean a lot...

Look at Laurel she ony won once but for me she is still elite.

What is important is are you considered by your peers as on of the best? track record aside?

Ct, Darell, Laurel, Evelyn all had that kind of vibe...feared and respected.

Bananas never had that respect and that's why he isn't the goat

We still talking about 2nd boot Bananas? I don’t even remember what he’s like now that he only makes 2-3 episodes a season :/

I mentioned last week about now being the perfect time for a redemption theme with Rogan going from purged to champion & the many DQs recently. I made my own cast and could see it being very realistic! 

https://vevmo.com/comment/2621860#comment-2621860

Put Gio for Idris and I'd agree with your list..

 

BTW: No matter how many wins Bananas gets, if you look it retrospectively it feels like he always reached the top by cheating his win into it or because of something other than his performance. Island because of Abram/Kenny/Evelyn saving him; Ruins because of the ****** up challenge per se and Darrell DQ; Rivals 1 because of the massive lead cut; Exes 1 because of CT gassing out; Free Agents was his only win where he deserved it, but still he made it as if the whole house was against him when this was not the case; Rivals 3 because of how good Sarah/Bananas were compared to the others. He doesn't have any area where he is clearly favorable compared to the other good ones. Not comp-wise, not final-wise, not strategy-wise. Can he be the GOAT then? 

Banananas winning 6 of 19 seasons 31.58%.

Darrell winning 4 out of 8 seasons 50%.

Evelyn winning 3 out of 7 42.86%

Jordan winning 3 out of 5 60%.

Bananas being a goat with only winning 6 out of 19 appearances lol

It doesn't matter though. He still has the most wins period. The more your on something the more chances you have to lose also. I bet if Landon & Darrell were on more challenges with all the twist & weak *** eliminations that they would also have more losses as well. Actually Darrell couldn't even make a final on the newer seasons so that goes to prove my point. But I agree if Jordan keeps on doing the challenges he will probably end up being the best. He has the best endurance for running all sorts of finals

CT is looking kind of hot again

His ankles wrapped? Final sprains?

 

CT is looking kind of hot again

His ankles wrapped? Final sprains?

 

Cara, Zach, and Ct seem to all have bandages or injuries on their ankles. Im guessing they were shackled at one point

 

Banananas winning 6 of 19 seasons 31.58%.

Darrell winning 4 out of 8 seasons 50%.

Evelyn winning 3 out of 7 42.86%

Jordan winning 3 out of 5 60%.

Bananas being a goat with only winning 6 out of 19 appearances lol

It doesn't matter though. He still has the most wins period. The more your on something the more chances you have to lose also. I bet if Landon & Darrell were on more challenges with all the twist & weak *** eliminations that they would also have more losses as well. Actually Darrell couldn't even make a final on the newer seasons so that goes to prove my point. But I agree if Jordan keeps on doing the challenges he will probably end up being the best. He has the best endurance for running all sorts of finals

How does someone who lost to Kenny and a dying Wes by an hour have the best endurance lol and sucked on Rivals 2. He beat a weak challengers team, rowed a boat on The Island and then beat Jenna/Vince lol he has one impressive final which is FA. He hasn't been to a final since R3 so it's not exactly much better than Darrell. In that same time Wes took seasons off got married came back and still reached a final before then lol **** CT gained a dad bod and then lost all the weight and still made a final before John. He's washed up and overrated 6 wins don't mean anything if they're handed to you 

1  Veronica in her prime was better than Ashley

2. I hate Tori H and while shes not better than Emily or Laurel some that did the show claim she was one of the best

3. GOAT is all opinion but John isn't in the discussion 

4. Landon go home first and it wouldn't impact his legacy. Just like Veronica's didn't impact her legacy

 

Banananas winning 6 of 19 seasons 31.58%.

Darrell winning 4 out of 8 seasons 50%.

Evelyn winning 3 out of 7 42.86%

Jordan winning 3 out of 5 60%.

Bananas being a goat with only winning 6 out of 19 appearances lol

It doesn't matter though. He still has the most wins period. The more your on something the more chances you have to lose also. I bet if Landon & Darrell were on more challenges with all the twist & weak *** eliminations that they would also have more losses as well. Actually Darrell couldn't even make a final on the newer seasons so that goes to prove my point. But I agree if Jordan keeps on doing the challenges he will probably end up being the best. He has the best endurance for running all sorts of finals

Darrell beT John with ease in his return. 

Invasion was Darrell’s to win before losing to CT IMO

If Bananas gets to another final I think he'd win it. When he gets to the final he barely loses (6/8). 

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