1. i think yall are overhyping joss a lot. we havent seen him enough at all to say hes a contender with Jordan, Paulie, Theo and Turbo. the only thing we've seen him do is beat up on a dwarf just to lose and run really fast against runners who arent that great to begin with
2. if millionarr makes the final SHES WINNING!!!!! shes proved herself time and time again and all yall do is make up excuses to discredit her. its about time yall worship the richest challenger zzzzz
1. i think yall are overhyping joss a lot. we havent seen him enough at all to say hes a contender with Jordan, Paulie, Theo and Turbo. the only thing we've seen him do is beat up on a dwarf just to lose and run really fast against runners who arent that great to begin with
2. if millionarr makes the final SHES WINNING!!!!! shes proved herself time and time again and all yall do is make up excuses to discredit her. its about time yall worship the richest challenger zzzzz
People seem to gloss over Laurel being slowed down heavily by Zach. Had that final been entirely individual Laurel would’ve smoked Nany in a complete blowout win.
Right? I cant with people gassing up Nany in 2019 like she has flopped a dozen times
She still had to keep up and have the endurance to win that. Beating every female but Ninja Natalie and getting into the tribunal before Cara (Who was third) is impressive
People seem to gloss over Laurel being slowed down heavily by Zach. Had that final been entirely individual Laurel would’ve smoked Nany in a complete blowout win.
Right? I cant with people gassing up Nany in 2019 like she has flopped a dozen times
I feel like we had this same discussion about Nany on the WOTW spoilers discussion lol
People seem to gloss over Laurel being slowed down heavily by Zach. Had that final been entirely individual Laurel would’ve smoked Nany in a complete blowout win.
Right? I cant with people gassing up Nany in 2019 like she has flopped a dozen times
I feel like we had this same discussion about Nany on the WOTW spoilers discussion lol
And she flopped there too. Everyone needs to listen to the gospel Graphik and I have been consistently spitting for years
People seem to gloss over Laurel being slowed down heavily by Zach. Had that final been entirely individual Laurel would’ve smoked Nany in a complete blowout win.
Right? I cant with people gassing up Nany in 2019 like she has flopped a dozen times
I feel like we had this same discussion about Nany on the WOTW spoilers discussion lol
And she flopped there too. Everyone needs to listen to the gospel Graphik and I have been consistently spitting for years
Her best bets at winning were Rivals 3 if her and Wes actually cared and WOTW if it stayed in pairs she’s not winning an individual season she needs a good partner to win one
1. i think yall are overhyping joss a lot. we havent seen him enough at all to say hes a contender with Jordan, Paulie, Theo and Turbo. the only thing we've seen him do is beat up on a dwarf just to lose and run really fast against runners who arent that great to begin with
2. if millionarr makes the final SHES WINNING!!!!! shes proved herself time and time again and all yall do is make up excuses to discredit her. its about time yall worship the richest challenger zzzzz
Joss has one extra season on Turbo and Theo and the same amount as Paulie. He also beat Paulie in FR in the final, won a few eliminations and dailies, and was the only team to not go to redemption. He legit looked like he could do Rock of Gibraltar all over again, mans was not tired. The only elim he lost on a technicality and if he went agains Shane without the mercenary twist, we all know he would have won. So how can you not compare Joss to Turbo, Theo, and Paulie?
fr, it all depended on how the ball bounced and the wind direction. majority of the rounds, the ball bounced directly to one person and they took off with it
People seem to gloss over Laurel being slowed down heavily by Zach. Had that final been entirely individual Laurel would’ve smoked Nany in a complete blowout win.
Right? I cant with people gassing up Nany in 2019 like she has flopped a dozen times
I feel like we had this same discussion about Nany on the WOTW spoilers discussion lol
And she flopped there too. Everyone needs to listen to the gospel Graphik and I have been consistently spitting for years
They'll never learn, even when SHE shows them better than we can tell them.
She still had to keep up and have the endurance to win that. Beating every female but Ninja Natalie and getting into the tribunal before Cara (Who was third) is impressive
yeah, Nany quit smoking & her WOTW performance was actually up to par with ninja & Cara I would say, she kept up with turbo.
the only reason he beat paulie in the final was due to nat getting lost :/.
the rock of gibraltar was NO WHERE NEAR the distance that the WOTW final was so imo, they are incomparable.
finally, the only reason Joss didnt go to redemption was because of sylvias links to the LLs, who ran the entirety of FR.
ps joss is wallpaper and does nothing but look pretty xx
Hes Lost one elimination which was just a lapse of concentration and already made a finals it doesn't matter if he's wallpaper he's a great competitor
*****. Wallpaper does not equal poor performer. TBh Paulie did shit that whole season but chill in the redemption house while Joss had to compete day after day and still beat Paulie. Joss Sylvia are the true winners of FR.
1. i think yall are overhyping joss a lot. we havent seen him enough at all to say hes a contender with Jordan, Paulie, Theo and Turbo. the only thing we've seen him do is beat up on a dwarf just to lose and run really fast against runners who arent that great to begin with
2. if millionarr makes the final SHES WINNING!!!!! shes proved herself time and time again and all yall do is make up excuses to discredit her. its about time yall worship the richest challenger zzzzz
Yeah he beat the entire cast at running, but let's not overhype his running lolol
Imo Joss is the best runner on the cast. I've seen his workouts and they're crazy. He's an athlete. Idk how he would do in an individual final with puzzles and other stuff though so that'd be the determining factor. He definitely deserves to be in talks with Paulie, Jordan, Theo, and Turbo who imo are the biggest threats in the final.
the only reason he beat paulie in the final was due to nat getting lost :/.
the rock of gibraltar was NO WHERE NEAR the distance that the WOTW final was so imo, they are incomparable.
finally, the only reason Joss didnt go to redemption was because of sylvias links to the LLs, who ran the entirety of FR.
ps joss is wallpaper and does nothing but look pretty xx
i wouldn’t even JUDGE anyone’s performance on the rock of Gibraltar. Jemmye beat Kailah at that But on the last purge she beat Jemmye, i DONT think anyone was prepared for that all were probably all hungover or tired from the plane ride.
I love Nany but who is taking her to a final ? Unless she dropped the cigarettes i wouldn't dare take her to a final because the endurance would not be there
she quit cigarettes during her time away from the challenges. I will commend her for doing so well in the FA final when she was a chain smoker and never worked iut, but I dont see her doing as well in a final like WOTW IMO.
I don't think she'd kill a final but she hasn't shown anyone on the cast that she could be a liability in a final to want to get rid of her. Even on FA when she was smoking and drinking every day she did well.
the only reason he beat paulie in the final was due to nat getting lost :/.
the rock of gibraltar was NO WHERE NEAR the distance that the WOTW final was so imo, they are incomparable.
finally, the only reason Joss didnt go to redemption was because of sylvias links to the LLs, who ran the entirety of FR.
ps joss is wallpaper and does nothing but look pretty xx
Joss and Paulie both are runners. Joss went back and helped Sylvia, Paulie didn't wait for his partner, Joss did, that's why Joss and Sylvia beat them.
The only reason Joss and Sylvia didn't go to redemption is because they won their 2 eliminations tf...
He's wallpaper but he's a good competitor and I'm fine with him on the cast. More excited for Rogan's anctics.
To be fair Paulie outran Joss in the FR final, and if Natalie didn’t get lost, he would’ve beat him.
just two things to say
1. i think yall are overhyping joss a lot. we havent seen him enough at all to say hes a contender with Jordan, Paulie, Theo and Turbo. the only thing we've seen him do is beat up on a dwarf just to lose and run really fast against runners who arent that great to begin with
2. if millionarr makes the final SHES WINNING!!!!! shes proved herself time and time again and all yall do is make up excuses to discredit her. its about time yall worship the richest challenger zzzzz
Joss has one extra season on Turbo and Theo and the same amount as Paulie. He also beat Paulie in FR in the final, won a few eliminations and dailies, and was the only team to not go to redemption. He legit looked like he could do Rock of Gibraltar all over again, mans was not tired. The only elim he lost on a technicality and if he went agains Shane without the mercenary twist, we all know he would have won. So how can you not compare Joss to Turbo, Theo, and Paulie?
People seem to gloss over Laurel being slowed down heavily by Zach. Had that final been entirely individual Laurel would’ve smoked Nany in a complete blowout win.
The second day with no partners Nany and Laurel were neck and neck......
Not saying Laurel wouldn't have won but Nany did well that final.
1. i think yall are overhyping joss a lot. we havent seen him enough at all to say hes a contender with Jordan, Paulie, Theo and Turbo. the only thing we've seen him do is beat up on a dwarf just to lose and run really fast against runners who arent that great to begin with
2. if millionarr makes the final SHES WINNING!!!!! shes proved herself time and time again and all yall do is make up excuses to discredit her. its about time yall worship the richest challenger zzzzz
carrying sylvia (love her tho). He made a bad deal with paulie that ruined all of his chances. I think joss is also set up great If it’s the team alliances
1. i think yall are overhyping joss a lot. we havent seen him enough at all to say hes a contender with Jordan, Paulie, Theo and Turbo. the only thing we've seen him do is beat up on a dwarf just to lose and run really fast against runners who arent that great to begin with
2. if millionarr makes the final SHES WINNING!!!!! shes proved herself time and time again and all yall do is make up excuses to discredit her. its about time yall worship the richest challenger zzzzz
carrying sylvia (love her tho). He made a bad deal with paulie that ruined all of his chances. I think joss is also set up great If it’s the team alliances
if its a team challenge I think his side is actually just about dead even with the other side of the internationals.
I see it as Theo/Georgia/Bear/Idris/Nicole and Kayleigh/Rogan/Joss/Kyle. Turbo leaning more towards the 1st group and Big T/Jenn/Dee as free agents
Theo is dangerous in a final due to the fact that all finals have some amount of running involved, but he shouldn't be considered a "big gun" quite yet ****.
Kyle being the same height, body type, and the fact that he was all busted up helped him a lot imo.
I think we need to see a little more though. The WOTW final and the season in general was a pretty good indicator. Over time the challenge puts people in a multitude of different situations that eventually exposes some sort of weak spot or they eventually lose because of bad luck.
His height is such a huuuuuge advantage over others though if he can leverage it there's no reason he can't be one of the top dawgs every season. However I also think a huge advantage like that almost inevitably yields a weakness in return so it's just the luck of the draw of the challenge or elimination with him.
just two things to say
1. i think yall are overhyping joss a lot. we havent seen him enough at all to say hes a contender with Jordan, Paulie, Theo and Turbo. the only thing we've seen him do is beat up on a dwarf just to lose and run really fast against runners who arent that great to begin with
2. if millionarr makes the final SHES WINNING!!!!! shes proved herself time and time again and all yall do is make up excuses to discredit her. its about time yall worship the richest challenger zzzzz
because of turbo.......... as soon as the partners split, she was screwed.
Wes right now is a tier below the big guns Theo, Jordan and Turbo but if he can make a move to take one of those guys out who knows
She got unlucky with the Georgia elimination tbf
Right? I cant with people gassing up Nany in 2019 like she has flopped a dozen times
She still had to keep up and have the endurance to win that. Beating every female but Ninja Natalie and getting into the tribunal before Cara (Who was third) is impressive
I feel like we had this same discussion about Nany on the WOTW spoilers discussion lol
And she flopped there too. Everyone needs to listen to the gospel Graphik and I have been consistently spitting for years
Her best bets at winning were Rivals 3 if her and Wes actually cared and WOTW if it stayed in pairs she’s not winning an individual season she needs a good partner to win one
Joss has one extra season on Turbo and Theo and the same amount as Paulie. He also beat Paulie in FR in the final, won a few eliminations and dailies, and was the only team to not go to redemption. He legit looked like he could do Rock of Gibraltar all over again, mans was not tired. The only elim he lost on a technicality and if he went agains Shane without the mercenary twist, we all know he would have won. So how can you not compare Joss to Turbo, Theo, and Paulie?
fr, it all depended on how the ball bounced and the wind direction. majority of the rounds, the ball bounced directly to one person and they took off with it
They'll never learn, even when SHE shows them better than we can tell them.

yeah, Nany quit smoking & her WOTW performance was actually up to par with ninja & Cara I would say, she kept up with turbo.
the only reason he beat paulie in the final was due to nat getting lost :/.
the rock of gibraltar was NO WHERE NEAR the distance that the WOTW final was so imo, they are incomparable.
finally, the only reason Joss didnt go to redemption was because of sylvias links to the LLs, who ran the entirety of FR.
ps joss is wallpaper and does nothing but look pretty xx
Hes Lost one elimination which was just a lapse of concentration and already made a finals it doesn’t matter if he’s wallpaper he’s a great competitor
*****. Wallpaper does not equal poor performer. TBh Paulie did shit that whole season but chill in the redemption house while Joss had to compete day after day and still beat Paulie. Joss Sylvia are the true winners of FR.
Yeah he beat the entire cast at running, but let's not overhype his running lolol
Imo Joss is the best runner on the cast. I've seen his workouts and they're crazy. He's an athlete. Idk how he would do in an individual final with puzzles and other stuff though so that'd be the determining factor. He definitely deserves to be in talks with Paulie, Jordan, Theo, and Turbo who imo are the biggest threats in the final.
i wouldn’t even JUDGE anyone’s performance on the rock of Gibraltar. Jemmye beat Kailah at that But on the last purge she beat Jemmye, i DONT think anyone was prepared for that all were probably all hungover or tired from the plane ride.
I don't think she'd kill a final but she hasn't shown anyone on the cast that she could be a liability in a final to want to get rid of her. Even on FA when she was smoking and drinking every day she did well.
Joss and Paulie both are runners. Joss went back and helped Sylvia, Paulie didn't wait for his partner, Joss did, that's why Joss and Sylvia beat them.
The only reason Joss and Sylvia didn't go to redemption is because they won their 2 eliminations tf...
He's wallpaper but he's a good competitor and I'm fine with him on the cast. More excited for Rogan's anctics.
To be fair Paulie outran Joss in the FR final, and if Natalie didn’t get lost, he would’ve beat him.
Joss has one extra season on Turbo and Theo and the same amount as Paulie. He also beat Paulie in FR in the final, won a few eliminations and dailies, and was the only team to not go to redemption. He legit looked like he could do Rock of Gibraltar all over again, mans was not tired. The only elim he lost on a technicality and if he went agains Shane without the mercenary twist, we all know he would have won. So how can you not compare Joss to Turbo, Theo, and Paulie?
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The second day with no partners Nany and Laurel were neck and neck......
Not saying Laurel wouldn't have won but Nany did well that final.
People keep underestimating Kayleigh but she will have the last laugh
carrying sylvia (love her tho). He made a bad deal with paulie that ruined all of his chances. I think joss is also set up great If it’s the team alliances
I hope we get more info soon. I start to get afraid that their will be a redemption house:(
if its a team challenge I think his side is actually just about dead even with the other side of the internationals.
I see it as Theo/Georgia/Bear/Idris/Nicole and Kayleigh/Rogan/Joss/Kyle. Turbo leaning more towards the 1st group and Big T/Jenn/Dee as free agents
theres names speculated lol, they just need confirmation ....
And was useless solving puzzles in the Ruins finale, Bloodlines, the Gauntlet 3, Vendettas, Dirty 30 and WOW
Theo is dangerous in a final due to the fact that all finals have some amount of running involved, but he shouldn't be considered a "big gun" quite yet ****.
Kyle being the same height, body type, and the fact that he was all busted up helped him a lot imo.
I think we need to see a little more though. The WOTW final and the season in general was a pretty good indicator. Over time the challenge puts people in a multitude of different situations that eventually exposes some sort of weak spot or they eventually lose because of bad luck.
His height is such a huuuuuge advantage over others though if he can leverage it there's no reason he can't be one of the top dawgs every season. However I also think a huge advantage like that almost inevitably yields a weakness in return so it's just the luck of the draw of the challenge or elimination with him.
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