Eddie1378 wrote:Cara has made it to 8 finals now. plus Champs v Stars. She's elite
lol. if you clearly cannot see the difference between cara and laurel/emily s/evelyn you are probably a ********* in other words, you are Eddie.
There can be more than 3 elite women
Sure, if they are elite. Cara is CLEARLY a tier below them. You are just destroying the credibility of elite when you include lower tier players in the same category.
Cara is in the elite category as well
Diluting the elite category. thanks edward
who gives AF anyway. All of this is subjective
except your opinion is a joke that we all like laughing at anyway. for msot of us, sure, its subjective. for you, its a comedy.
Eddie1378 wrote:Cara has made it to 8 finals now. plus Champs v Stars. She's elite
lol. if you clearly cannot see the difference between cara and laurel/emily s/evelyn you are probably a ********* in other words, you are Eddie.
There can be more than 3 elite women
Sure, if they are elite. Cara is CLEARLY a tier below them. You are just destroying the credibility of elite when you include lower tier players in the same category.
Cara is in the elite category as well
Diluting the elite category. thanks edward
who gives AF anyway. All of this is subjective
except your opinion is a joke that we all like laughing at anyway. for msot of us, sure, its subjective. for you, its a comedy.
well who doesnt love comedy glad I can help you laugh big boy
the whole, they're only elite if they win a season with elite people is a paradox of an argument. Because if that's the case, then how would Laurel be elite? There was no one elite on Free Agents.
I know im biased but i think Cara is elite too. She's not as good as Laurel, Emily or Evelyn but i also dont think Emily is as good as Laurel/Ev or that Laurel is as good as Ev. As for 'diluting' the tier, i dont think that matters since this isnt an actual sport lmao.
Eddie1378 wrote:Cara has made it to 8 finals now. plus Champs v Stars. She's elite
lol. if you clearly cannot see the difference between cara and laurel/emily s/evelyn you are probably a ********* in other words, you are Eddie.
There can be more than 3 elite women
Sure, if they are elite. Cara is CLEARLY a tier below them. You are just destroying the credibility of elite when you include lower tier players in the same category.
I don't think Cara is Elite either, I don't think there needs to even be that many people in an elite tier because it dilutes it. However we need to apply this logic to Veronica and Evelyn's finals records as well. Evelyn is clearly tiers better with a more impressive resume
Though to be fair to Veronica, the games were different back in her day. They were like carnival games and silly obstacle courses. Based off what they were, she was good and she was smart. She won her lifesavers when she needed to. She played a smart game back then. For what it was, she was great. It's like comparing this last trilogy, or rather, this last FR final to 2-day mountain climbing finals. Different eras, different measurement scale. Hmm... maybe that makes an argument for Cara? Whoops haha.
I don't know much about Evelyn but in my opinion, Laurel is the strongest female cast. She's a beast and doesn't anyone or anything. Not the best political game but she's the only true elite. A combination of both Emily and Evelyn.
The reason why I continue to root for Cara every season is because I still consider her an underdog and nothing makes me happier than seeing an underdog make it all the way.
the whole, they're only elite if they win a season with elite people is a paradox of an argument. Because if that's the case, then how would Laurel be elite? There was no one elite on Free Agents.
LOL! Fair argument. Can we make her elite for having to drag a crying Zach up the mountain? hahaha!
I don't know much about Evelyn but in my opinion, Laurel is the strongest female cast. She's a beast and doesn't anyone or anything. Not the best political game but she's the only true elite. A combination of both Emily and Evelyn.The reason why I continue to root for Cara every season is because I still consider her an underdog and nothing makes me happier than seeing an underdog make it all the way.
Evelyn was more than physically dominant, Laurel is amazing but a good amount of it is knowing how to use her dominating size. Evelyn was dominant physically with a Lawyers head on her shoulders. She wasn’t taller than everyone but every one was shaking in their boots the moment her name came up. She is the best female competitor bar none and did it at the peak of JEKs horrible reign of this show.
I don't know much about Evelyn but in my opinion, Laurel is the strongest female cast. She's a beast and doesn't anyone or anything. Not the best political game but she's the only true elite. A combination of both Emily and Evelyn.The reason why I continue to root for Cara every season is because I still consider her an underdog and nothing makes me happier than seeing an underdog make it all the way.
Just curious, but what continues to make her an "underdog" at this point? She's won 2 finals. She does well in eliminations. She has friends and alliances in the houses. She's got the Vet tenure thing going for her.. I get rooting for an underdog, but I guess for me she's well past it. IMO, she just overplays a role she can no longer claim. And this whole female empowerment story-arc feels really contrived.
I also think the reason why many people may not place her in the same league as Laurel or Evelyn or Emily is the fact that her gameplay is different. Laurel and Evelyn weren't afraid to call people out or go into elimination. They beasted when they were expected to. Evelyn really didn't care if the whole house was against her. Cara's gameplay is different and a little more subdued, though it makes sense to not want to go into elimination. She is such a seasoned Vet though, that I would expect her to call people out by way of elimination. She competes in isolation from others.
I'm hoping this new round of girls can hold their own and bring in new storylines...
I don't know much about Evelyn but in my opinion, Laurel is the strongest female cast. She's a beast and doesn't anyone or anything. Not the best political game but she's the only true elite. A combination of both Emily and Evelyn.The reason why I continue to root for Cara every season is because I still consider her an underdog and nothing makes me happier than seeing an underdog make it all the way.
Evelyn was more than physically dominant, Laurel is amazing but a good amount of it is knowing how to use her dominating size. Evelyn was dominant physically with a Lawyers head on her shoulders. She wasn’t taller than everyone but every one was shaking in their boots the moment her name came up. She is the best female competitor bar none and did it at the peak of JEKs horrible reign of this show.Shes better than Laurel easily
Right. Laurels size is her biggest thing and i remember watching a clip of Evelyn and her play wrestling (FM2) and Evelyn winning lol.
Never understood the "she has two wins in 8 tries while so and so has 2 wins in 4 tries" or whatever it is argument.
It took the Broncos 4 tries before they won their first SB yet are considered a great team. The bills and Vikings went 0 and 4 in SB but yet are considered great teams. To win a championship in anything, be it football hockey basketball etc is one of the hardest things to do. Everything has to go right for them, all has to lineup perfectly. I coach kids in hockey and we won our championship last year. Everything went as we hoped it would go and we won. All lined up.
CM has been to 7 finals and has won 2, FR was the first one that she has placed lower than 2nd. To even get to a final in anything is impressive and to actually win is amazing.
So fsr people to suggest that so and so is better because it took less tries is a dumb argument in my opinion. At the end of the day, no other female has been to more challenges.
Elite is a whole other arguement but she is def a great competitor.
I don't know much about Evelyn but in my opinion, Laurel is the strongest female cast. She's a beast and doesn't anyone or anything. Not the best political game but she's the only true elite. A combination of both Emily and Evelyn.The reason why I continue to root for Cara every season is because I still consider her an underdog and nothing makes me happier than seeing an underdog make it all the way.
Just curious, but what continues to make her an "underdog" at this point? She's won 2 finals. She does well in eliminations. She has friends and alliances in the houses. She's got the Vet tenure thing going for her.. I get rooting for an underdog, but I guess for me she's well past it. IMO, she just overplays a role she can no longer claim. And this whole female empowerment story-arc feels really contrived.I also think the reason why many people may not place her in the same league as Laurel or Evelyn or Emily is the fact that her gameplay is different. Laurel and Evelyn weren't afraid to call people out or go into elimination. They beasted when they were expected to. Evelyn really didn't care if the whole house was against her. Cara's gameplay is different and a little more subdued, though it makes sense to not want to go into elimination. She is such a seasoned Vet though, that I would expect her to call people out by way of elimination. She competes in isolation from others.I'm hoping this new round of girls can hold their own and bring in new storylines...
Emily and Paula were begging/crying to Jordan and marlon on rivals 2 to not see an elimination lmao.
Can't believe people really are arguing that Cara is elite, she's good yes but clearly a tier below Ev, Emily, Evelyn and Rachel. From the hype it seems Mattie and Ninja may be in that group as well, and if that's the case it'll be clear that Cara just can't keep up with them
I’m in shock that someone was arguing that Wes ISNT a good player I-
Wes had good and bad political moments. The first Fresh Meat was a disaster. The Duel he convinced Evan to do his dirty work or at least try to do it so A+. He was a disaster on The Ruins. FM2 and Rivals were a mixed bag. He didn't have any chance on Seasons. Rivals 2 was a lay-up for him. Exes 2 was good but a twist screwed him. Haven't watched Rivals 3.
Wes isn't the "elite" strategist people make him out to be but he's very good. There's definitely been better over the years.
I'm kind of hoping that Kyle and Mattie hooked up this season. I'm only interested for biological purposes. I've heard that Kyle's **** and Mattie's *** are legendary so I'm interested to see them go against one another and which one would win.
I’m in shock that someone was arguing that Wes ISNT a good player I-
Wes had good and bad political moments. The first Fresh Meat was a disaster. The Duel he convinced Evan to do his dirty work or at least try to do it so A+. He was a disaster on The Ruins. FM2 and Rivals were a mixed bag. He didn't have any chance on Seasons. Rivals 2 was a lay-up for him. Exes 2 was good but a twist screwed him. Haven't watched Rivals 3. Wes isn't the "elite" strategist people make him out to be but he's very good. There's definitely been better over the years.
I’m in shock that someone was arguing that Wes ISNT a good player I-
Wes had good and bad political moments. The first Fresh Meat was a disaster. The Duel he convinced Evan to do his dirty work or at least try to do it so A+. He was a disaster on The Ruins. FM2 and Rivals were a mixed bag. He didn't have any chance on Seasons. Rivals 2 was a lay-up for him. Exes 2 was good but a twist screwed him. Haven't watched Rivals 3. Wes isn't the "elite" strategist people make him out to be but he's very good. There's definitely been better over the years.
I wouldn't put him in the Landon/Alton/Darrell category but I certainly think he's top tier. He has his strengths and his weaknesses, but I like that he isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and go against the grain, and I find it refreshing that he seemingly knows to take breaks. He's been in a lot of battles and also manipulated his way out of others. He also doesn't have the same cast of shadows/grunts that Bananas always runs with.
Cara isn't an all-time elite but there aren't many quality female competitors that show up these days. I'm hope Ninja and Mattie change that.
Yes. I would put Cara as top tier certainly, but not ncessarily elite. She looks elite based on a lot of the elite names not competing anymore, but I think she's consistently above average and that alone deserves respect. I wish she would take a season off or two.
People on here dont **** with her but overall Cara is liked by the Challenge fanbase lol
except your opinion is a joke that we all like laughing at anyway. for msot of us, sure, its subjective. for you, its a comedy.
well who doesnt love comedy
glad I can help you laugh big boy
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion people, literally wasting breath arguing about who’s elite and who isn’t...
the whole, they're only elite if they win a season with elite people is a paradox of an argument. Because if that's the case, then how would Laurel be elite? There was no one elite on Free Agents.
I know im biased but i think Cara is elite too. She's not as good as Laurel, Emily or Evelyn but i also dont think Emily is as good as Laurel/Ev or that Laurel is as good as Ev. As for 'diluting' the tier, i dont think that matters since this isnt an actual sport lmao.
Though to be fair to Veronica, the games were different back in her day. They were like carnival games and silly obstacle courses. Based off what they were, she was good and she was smart. She won her lifesavers when she needed to. She played a smart game back then. For what it was, she was great. It's like comparing this last trilogy, or rather, this last FR final to 2-day mountain climbing finals. Different eras, different measurement scale. Hmm... maybe that makes an argument for Cara? Whoops haha.
I don't know much about Evelyn but in my opinion, Laurel is the strongest female cast. She's a beast and doesn't anyone or anything. Not the best political game but she's the only true elite. A combination of both Emily and Evelyn.
The reason why I continue to root for Cara every season is because I still consider her an underdog and nothing makes me happier than seeing an underdog make it all the way.
LOL! Fair argument. Can we make her elite for having to drag a crying Zach up the mountain? hahaha!
I’m in shock that someone was arguing that Wes ISNT a good player I-
Evelyn was more than physically dominant, Laurel is amazing but a good amount of it is knowing how to use her dominating size. Evelyn was dominant physically with a Lawyers head on her shoulders. She wasn’t taller than everyone but every one was shaking in their boots the moment her name came up. She is the best female competitor bar none and did it at the peak of JEKs horrible reign of this show.
Shes better than Laurel easily
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The winners of The Challenge 33 look good here
Just curious, but what continues to make her an "underdog" at this point? She's won 2 finals. She does well in eliminations. She has friends and alliances in the houses. She's got the Vet tenure thing going for her.. I get rooting for an underdog, but I guess for me she's well past it. IMO, she just overplays a role she can no longer claim. And this whole female empowerment story-arc feels really contrived.
I also think the reason why many people may not place her in the same league as Laurel or Evelyn or Emily is the fact that her gameplay is different. Laurel and Evelyn weren't afraid to call people out or go into elimination. They beasted when they were expected to. Evelyn really didn't care if the whole house was against her. Cara's gameplay is different and a little more subdued, though it makes sense to not want to go into elimination. She is such a seasoned Vet though, that I would expect her to call people out by way of elimination. She competes in isolation from others.
I'm hoping this new round of girls can hold their own and bring in new storylines...
It was a salty Babydick fan. Pay them no mind.
Oh the player who has the exact opposite of Wes’ elimination record lol. Nvm!
Right. Laurels size is her biggest thing and i remember watching a clip of Evelyn and her play wrestling (FM2) and Evelyn winning lol.
Never understood the "she has two wins in 8 tries while so and so has 2 wins in 4 tries" or whatever it is argument.
It took the Broncos 4 tries before they won their first SB yet are considered a great team. The bills and Vikings went 0 and 4 in SB but yet are considered great teams. To win a championship in anything, be it football hockey basketball etc is one of the hardest things to do. Everything has to go right for them, all has to lineup perfectly. I coach kids in hockey and we won our championship last year. Everything went as we hoped it would go and we won. All lined up.
CM has been to 7 finals and has won 2, FR was the first one that she has placed lower than 2nd. To even get to a final in anything is impressive and to actually win is amazing.
So fsr people to suggest that so and so is better because it took less tries is a dumb argument in my opinion. At the end of the day, no other female has been to more challenges.
Elite is a whole other arguement but she is def a great competitor.
Emily and Paula were begging/crying to Jordan and marlon on rivals 2 to not see an elimination lmao.
Cara is good, but I don’t like her. That gets in the way of my ranking of her as a competitor tbh.
Cara is good but she’s not elite
Can't believe people really are arguing that Cara is elite, she's good yes but clearly a tier below Ev, Emily, Evelyn and Rachel. From the hype it seems Mattie and Ninja may be in that group as well, and if that's the case it'll be clear that Cara just can't keep up with them
Wes had good and bad political moments. The first Fresh Meat was a disaster. The Duel he convinced Evan to do his dirty work or at least try to do it so A+. He was a disaster on The Ruins. FM2 and Rivals were a mixed bag. He didn't have any chance on Seasons. Rivals 2 was a lay-up for him. Exes 2 was good but a twist screwed him. Haven't watched Rivals 3.
Wes isn't the "elite" strategist people make him out to be but he's very good. There's definitely been better over the years.
I'm kind of hoping that Kyle and Mattie hooked up this season. I'm only interested for biological purposes. I've heard that Kyle's **** and Mattie's *** are legendary so I'm interested to see them go against one another and which one would win.
Cara isn't an all-time elite but there aren't many quality female competitors that show up these days. I'm hope Ninja and Mattie change that.
I don’t want Turbo to win it would be predictable, I hope any of Mattie, Wes, Ninja, Georgia, or Theo wins
I wouldn't put him in the Landon/Alton/Darrell category but I certainly think he's top tier. He has his strengths and his weaknesses, but I like that he isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and go against the grain, and I find it refreshing that he seemingly knows to take breaks. He's been in a lot of battles and also manipulated his way out of others. He also doesn't have the same cast of shadows/grunts that Bananas always runs with.
Yes. I would put Cara as top tier certainly, but not ncessarily elite. She looks elite based on a lot of the elite names not competing anymore, but I think she's consistently above average and that alone deserves respect. I wish she would take a season off or two.
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